John from Riverside Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 When I comb through the transactions and our team has taken shape I feel that - There simply was not the move that was going to make our team significantly better.....even after final cuts I am not seeing "that guy" that is going to come in and change whatever our win total is going to be this year. - I think that our coaching is so good that it got every last bit of mayo out of the jar last year. I expect the same thing to happen this year. - This year was all about getting the qb of the future.....biting the bullet on the huge dead cap....and looking towards next year with what is it....NINE picks and possibly around 100 million in cap space..... - but what if....just WHAT if.....this team finds a way to be competative? Now the team looks to be in GREAT shape heading into the following season with a strong draft under their belt, another set of 9 picks, and a lot of cap space. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 All true, but remember the words of General George Patton - a good soldier bitches! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 That is what we need players to be on this team......good soldiers...just do your jobs. Teams might have more talent then us.....but dont outwork us! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 i have a very strange feeling that this year will go poorly,but i also fell the following year will be the first of many good seasons. It is not Billsy to take a step back to take many forward, In the past it has always been fill as a many holes as possible and try to sneak into the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I think the Bills would make a decent college team. Maybe even get a bowl game!?!? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 It’s not hard to see a team that can replicate last years success with a couple of bounces. Unfortunately, it’s also easy to see a team go 6-10 or 5-11 with a few bad beats. We simply are closer to the Jauron era in talent than we are the Rex era. MOR teams are MOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 $50 million in dead cap is hard to overcome. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I think we took a couple if not more steps backwards. To many unknowns and the loss of several good players without filling the holes they left behind. I see this as a 3 or 4 win team right now. I hope I'm wrong though. 2 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: $50 million in dead cap is hard to overcome. Anyone know how that compares to the rest of the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COTC Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Oh woe is me!! This thread is depressing... Good Vibes lead to Good things. We will improve and build from last year. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, westside said: I think we took a couple if not more steps backwards. To many unknowns and the loss of several good players without filling the holes they left behind. I see this as a 3 or 4 win team right now. I hope I'm wrong though. Anyone know how that compares to the rest of the league? Bills are a couple million from the all time record set by the Raiders back in 2013 ($55,371,535). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Bills are a couple million from the all time record set by the Raiders back in 2013 ($55,371,535). Are we dead last in dead cap money? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 We have 10 picks next year, not 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I hope that at least Daboll makes the offense more fun to watch with his play calling . That may be tough, though, the way the O-Line has looked in pass protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Technically, it's the Pegula's team. As for the roster, this is how I see a comparison to last year's team: QB: Honestly believe Peterman or Allen are more apt to win games than Tyrod (and first-year Peterman). Of course, the major difference is . . . OL: Worse than last year. No one on the squad is as good as Incognito, Groy could be a push on Wood, all others are literally the same (and not necessarily improving). Biggest potential disaster. WR: On paper, I think this is a slight upgrade over last year. RB: Slightly better than last year. Though if Shady goes down . . . TE: I believe they'll be better than last year overall. More versatility. Depth: Possibly a push but hard to tell. Coordinator: Even on Daboll's worst day I think he's better than Rick Dennison. Even geniuses can't make all bad players look good, but I think overall, Daboll will make a "D" offense into a "C- or C" offense, which could be "good enough" and likely better than last year. No real depth could also wipe out the season. DL - I'd like to say significantly better than last year but I'll simply say "improved" on paper. LB - Again, would like to say "improved" but I'll call this a push until Edwards gets better and Milano shows improvement. DB - All the same as last year, but curious if the new corners are better than Gaines and company. Depth: Slightly better but likely a push until proven otherwise. Coordinator: Same. Curious to see if a true game plan will restore confidence that getting kicked around in preseason meant nothing. Much tougher schedule, growing pains at QB, potential OL implosion so I'll go with 6-10. Bad start and gets better as season goes on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 31 minutes ago, westside said: I think we took a couple if not more steps backwards. To many unknowns and the loss of several good players without filling the holes they left behind. I see this as a 3 or 4 win team right now. I hope I'm wrong though. Anyone know how that compares to the rest of the league? Dallas is 2nd with 26m in dead cap. We are 2x as bad as the next worst team. That's kind of sad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 49 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: All true, but remember the words of General George Patton - a good soldier bitches! Yes, but remember the words of Dwight D. Eisenhower: "Don't be fatuous, George." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 minute ago, BillsRdue said: Dallas is 2nd with 26m in dead cap. We are 2x as bad as the next worst team. That's kind of sad. No, it’s a consequence of a REQUIRED purge of Whaley trash. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) So....if we sell....how much is my share? Edited September 2, 2018 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I was happy to see them add a CB, and hope he's better than the Pitts and Gaines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) This offseason was/is not about now but the future. We drafted our O and D QB for the team for years to come. I know we aren't used to this type of build but all need to be patient. Big moves in FA will come next offseason. Edited September 2, 2018 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 13 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Yes, but remember the words of Dwight D. Eisenhower: "Don't be fatuous, George." Well, he did have twin pearl handled revolvers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, Augie said: So....if we sell....how much it’s my share? You will get nothing and like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said: You will get nothing and like it Thank you, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Remember the season motto a few years ago This is our time? This is our team made me recall that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Remember the season motto a few years ago This is our time? This is our team made me recall that I remember. This year’s motto (Two Hearts Beat As One?) doesn’t really get me going as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I see 19-0 Baby ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobblehead Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Yeah I heard worse crap last summer. I mean seriously, they were supposed to be so bad they were tanking .Perhaps these guys are better than you think? I know that’s not how it’s done here but still 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanners Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Max Fischer said: Technically, it's the Pegula's team. As for the roster, this is how I see a comparison to last year's team: QB: Honestly believe Peterman or Allen are more apt to win games than Tyrod (and first-year Peterman). Of course, the major difference is . . . OL: Worse than last year. No one on the squad is as good as Incognito, Groy could be a push on Wood, all others are literally the same (and not necessarily improving). Biggest potential disaster. WR: On paper, I think this is a slight upgrade over last year. RB: Slightly better than last year. Though if Shady goes down . . . TE: I believe they'll be better than last year overall. More versatility. Depth: Possibly a push but hard to tell. Coordinator: Even on Daboll's worst day I think he's better than Rick Dennison. Even geniuses can't make all bad players look good, but I think overall, Daboll will make a "D" offense into a "C- or C" offense, which could be "good enough" and likely better than last year. No real depth could also wipe out the season. DL - I'd like to say significantly better than last year but I'll simply say "improved" on paper. LB - Again, would like to say "improved" but I'll call this a push until Edwards gets better and Milano shows improvement. DB - All the same as last year, but curious if the new corners are better than Gaines and company. Depth: Slightly better but likely a push until proven otherwise. Coordinator: Same. Curious to see if a true game plan will restore confidence that getting kicked around in preseason meant nothing. Much tougher schedule, growing pains at QB, potential OL implosion so I'll go with 6-10. Bad start and gets better as season goes on. Agreed Max. Other than O-Line, which is really a major question mark, this team is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 1 hour ago, RiotAct said: I remember. This year’s motto (Two Hearts Beat As One?) doesn’t really get me going as much. One Heart Beat Louder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 57 minutes ago, bobblehead said: Yeah I heard worse crap last summer. I mean seriously, they were supposed to be so bad they were tanking .Perhaps these guys are better than you think? I know that’s not how it’s done here but still these were my thoughts before the Bengals game … that O-line tho … see my avatar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfanatic8989 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 I still believe we win a SB within five years. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. It'll feel much more sweeter because of the tough times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 2 hours ago, BringBackOrton said: the Jauron era Ouch! 30 minutes ago, Sanners said: Agreed Max. Other than O-Line, which is really a major question mark, this team is better. But you don't win without a decent offensive line, unless you have Tom or Aaron behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 well said!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Green Lightning said: All true, but remember the words of General George Patton - a good soldier bitches! "I love it. God help me, I do love it so..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Domdab99 said: We have 10 picks next year, not 9 And 82 million in cap space,as of today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Dead cap space is horrendous but mostly on the past regime. Hopefully it quickly corrects itself by the next year or 2020 Difference between 10-6 and 5-11 is a few plays, injuries, etc. So both are within the realm of very probable. Sobering fact: only 4 teams out of 12 repeated making the playoffs last year... That's also why Allen pumped us as he brings HOPE. A good QB makes everyone Billeive and play better. But let's not burn the young guy for a 17 years of drought that hapened before him even if he wears #17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 27 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: "I love it. God help me, I do love it so..." Old blood and guts. Our blood, his guts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 4 hours ago, John from Riverside said: When I comb through the transactions and our team has taken shape I feel that - There simply was not the move that was going to make our team significantly better.....even after final cuts I am not seeing "that guy" that is going to come in and change whatever our win total is going to be this year. - I think that our coaching is so good that it got every last bit of mayo out of the jar last year. I expect the same thing to happen this year. - This year was all about getting the qb of the future.....biting the bullet on the huge dead cap....and looking towards next year with what is it....NINE picks and possibly around 100 million in cap space..... - but what if....just WHAT if.....this team finds a way to be competative? Now the team looks to be in GREAT shape heading into the following season with a strong draft under their belt, another set of 9 picks, and a lot of cap space. I won't even say the coaching was very good last year...The #s don't lie. We were one of the worsts team statistically on defense and a middle of the run team with the worst passing on offense. However, what the Coaching gave the team was the ability to make key plays when the game was on the line. This allowed us to win games even when we were statistically not in it. The draft is a crapshoot. We won't know about the success or failure of the draft until 2-3 seasons later. Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 3, 2018 Author Share Posted September 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, ganesh said: I won't even say the coaching was very good last year...The #s don't lie. We were one of the worsts team statistically on defense and a middle of the run team with the worst passing on offense. However, what the Coaching gave the team was the ability to make key plays when the game was on the line. This allowed us to win games even when we were statistically not in it. The draft is a crapshoot. We won't know about the success or failure of the draft until 2-3 seasons later. Go Bills! That is kinda the point....the coaching got us wins in games that we very well could have lost....we were in the middle of a rebiuld while doing it......and now we are in year 2. Its gonna be interesting to see how this season plays out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: One Heart Beat Louder same sh*t, different year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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