Misterbluesky Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, Augie said: That’s mostly what Brady does, but then, they name allowed to run a pick play at will. They are the Pats*, you know.... Aug,I love you brother,but let's not even try to compare Peterman to Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: Peterman's quick release will get you 20 picks by the end of the season. He's the best passer at throwing on time and at a WR but he's going to throw it whether he should or not. McCarron will most likely be the most similiar to Taylor which believe it or not is everyones best chance of winning (at the moment) and Allen seems to have a lot of talent but the question is still there about being up to NFL speed and do they want to throw him out there. Peterman is simply all or nothing and he may have a few flashes but he's no Vinny Testaverde ............. or is he :)? I’m not calling him Brady but What makes Brady, Brady is his ability to know the mismatch presnap and get the ball there quickly with accuracy. Daboll has some experience with that offense and Peterman has shown the ability to know where to go, accurately with the ball. 20 picks? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: Aug,I love you brother,but let's not even try to compare Peterman to Brady. Yeah, I’m just sayin’ you don’t need to be a slinger throwing 70 yard Mahomes passes. Peterman usually looks good with his timing and knowledge, but then you see throws that make you wonder if I butt punched a slo-mo button on the remote. And I’d NEVER compare those 2 QB’s, just talking style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: I’m not calling him Brady but What makes Brady, Brady is his ability to know the mismatch presnap and get the ball there quickly with accuracy. Daboll has some experience with that offense and Peterman has shown the ability to know where to go, accurately with the ball. 20 picks? Nope. Peterman looked clutch. 7 for 7 and a TD. I believe he can do that in an NFL game. The next drive was spot on. I do put that interception on Peterman. The guy shouldn't have tipped it up but it looked off the mark and you want your players attempting to make plays. I think it's just who Nathan Peterman is. Just by the book QB. He reads the situation and reacts and will be risky sometimes when our guy is off his mark. I'm sure Nathan Peterman would love more time for plays to develop. I seen an O-Line guy get pancaked on Petermans first pass in preseason. Edited August 30, 2018 by Lfod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Lfod said: Peterman looked clutch. 7 for 7 and a TD. I believe he can do that in an NFL game. The next drive was spot on. I do put that interception on Peterman. The guy shouldn't have tipped it up but it looked off the mark and you want your players attempting to make plays. I think it's just who Nathan Peterman is. Just by the book QB. He reads the situation and reacts and will be risky sometimes when our guy is off his mark. 9 of 9 but who’s counting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: 9 of 9 but who’s counting It's only preseason stats right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Just now, Lfod said: It's only preseason stats right? Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I still think it’s Allen because he can do the most. I’ve said it multiple times (and may be wrong) but when the bullets start flying I don’t see Peterman succeeding. The opposing team will get pressure (easily), jam the receivers and run under every route. They are so incredibly easy to defense. The only way to succeed is to escape the rush and make some plays over the top. That’s the only way you are going to keep teams from playing 11 guys up. To me, Allen is clearly the guy to do that. He also may be able to zing some of those outs and slants by the guys jumping routes. Those can also become big plays. Teams have to defense him differently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 58 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: On the field it's been Peterman but his got a lower ceiling than Allen. I'd consider Nate a 7, McCarron a 6 and Allen a 5 if ranking 1-10, with 10 being Brady/Rogers/Brees type. Ummmmm...this scale is very flawed. A 7 would be a solid or better starter on your scale. Peterman is no where close to a 7 until he shows it on the field. You don’t become a 7 on a scale of 1-10 when the GOAT is a 10 because you have a high comp % against backups and scrubs in preseason who aren’t even game planning to beat you really. Peterman hasn’t earned that grade yet. Not to mention, he lacks the natural ability to effectively use like 20 to 30% of the field. So can’t give it to him based on perceived physical gifts either. None of our QBs are higher than say a 5.5 right now, because all are unproven or raw. To be a 7, that’s an established quality starter on a scale of 1-10. 10 - Brady, Rogers, Brees, Wilson 9 - Breea, Wilson, Stafford, etc 8 - Big Ben, Cousins, Ryan, etc 7 - Flacco, Smith, Eli, etc 6 - Keenum, Tannehill, Taylor, etc Edited August 30, 2018 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) Peterman has my vote for now. The plan was always to let Allen progress at his own speed. I was willing to have Allen go game one if he clearly won the qb battle. Imo Peterman won. That’s not a knock on Allen I just think he could benefit from a little more time working/learning. Edited August 30, 2018 by Bobby Hooks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 TBD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COTC Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Peterman will choke when the real bullets fly. Play Allen or tank the season. Peterman will never win us any games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) This is just dumb, Peterman is a pre season warrior, he looked great last preseason and training camp aa well, then fell apart during real games. Edited August 30, 2018 by greeneblitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 47 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: I’m not calling him Brady but What makes Brady, Brady is his ability to know the mismatch presnap and get the ball there quickly with accuracy. Daboll has some experience with that offense and Peterman has shown the ability to know where to go, accurately with the ball. 20 picks? Nope. Very rarely does Brady make a big throw that requires a lot of arm. And in the last couple of years, when he does, the ball is often under thrown or weakly thrown. Most throws in this league are not long and they don't need to be. Nate's style of quick releasing accurate throws for a gain of 6 yards reminds me a ton of Brady. If he can consistently do that in real games, we're in business. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) Brady and Peterman! Brady has something called pocket poise and he knows how to slide and step up in the pocket when he's under duress. The comparison is laughable. Edited August 30, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Peterman might have had the best preseason, but his throws have not changed my thinking that he's a pick 6 machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Commonsense said: We can revisit this in the near future. Peterman is atrocious, he couldn’t throw a rock through a window. Allen can throw it thru a brick wall but what good is it with the garbage O-line they are going to field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COTC Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Mr. Pick 6?? are you saying he has the opportunity to start? Hahaha. Come on man!! Truth is, there is no !@#$ing way Peterman sees the field. No !@#$ing way. Smh @ Mr. pick 6. Worse QB in Bills history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Meh... I’d prefer to let Peterman show what he’s got. Allen can use some time learning the pro game. That’s not a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Peterman and it's not close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, greeneblitz said: This is just dumb, Peterman is a pre season warrior, he looked great last preseason and training camp aa well, then fell apart during real games. Why not give him the opportunity? What do we really have to lose? You see us going to the super bowl? Allen will get his shot. Why rush it? Edited August 30, 2018 by Bobby Hooks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, greeneblitz said: This is just dumb, Peterman is a pre season warrior, he looked great last preseason and training camp aa well, then fell apart during real games. At this point, Allen is just a workout warrior until he shows he can actually play on the field against quality competition with defenders trying to hit him. Edited August 30, 2018 by jrober38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I think it's that time again guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, LeGOATski said: Peterman has been the best QB all summer. As Rex would say, "He's won the offseason" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 50 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: TBD No, I believe the question is, "who is the best RIGHT NOW?". Any idiot knows that "TBD" how their careers shake up, but that's not the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, fridge said: No, I believe the question is, "who is the best RIGHT NOW?". Any idiot knows that "TBD" how their careers shake up, but that's not the question. I don't base anything like that on preseason football as it would be idiotic. The better question is why a guy who calls himself fridge has no idea how to chill. Edited August 30, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 All he needs is a pump fake on that out pattern, which then turns up. Daboll is setting the table. Watch for it in the Ravens game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Allen, and it's not even close. After Nate's 3d pick against the Ravens, Allen should start the rest of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 3 hours ago, Commonsense said: You’re putting stock in preseason stats. Then when he runs face first into a brick wall you can act surprised. He doesn’t have enough arm talent to do anything besides mop up duty. What does it say for Allen that he can't even do that? Is he going to all of a sudden light it up when games matter? This isn't Aaron Rodgers were talking about here. He's a rookie trying to prove he should be better than third string. Face the facts : Allen's preseason stats are near exact to his college average. He's no better now than he was then. We all hope that changes, but it sure as hell hasn't yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Bobby Hooks said: Meh... I’d prefer to let Peterman show what he’s got. Allen can use some time learning the pro game. That’s not a bad thing. You learn from playing not watching a mediocre at best 2nd year QB throwing picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I don't base anything like that on preseason football as it would be idiotic. The better question is why a guy who calls himself fridge has no idea how to chill. Well he's not plugged in. 12 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: What does it say for Allen that he can't even do that? Is he going to all of a sudden light it up when games matter? This isn't Aaron Rodgers were talking about here. He's a rookie trying to prove he should be better than third string. Face the facts : Allen's preseason stats are near exact to his college average. He's no better now than he was then. We all hope that changes, but it sure as hell hasn't yet. Yeah because no one has been talking about how he's improved from various weak point in his college film. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 3 hours ago, Misterbluesky said: Doing what..throwing safe passes? That style won't win you many games... I've seen backshoulder passes... a TD throw down the sideline... Let's not overreact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Allen. Both his ceiling and floor are higher than AJM 's or Peterman's, all he's lacking is experience. Might as well get him as much as he can this year rather than keep him in bubble wrap. Physically, he's also the best suited to survive behind an leaky OL. Start the kid and don't look back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 6 hours ago, Bobby Hooks said: Meh... I’d prefer to let Peterman show what he’s got. Allen can use some time learning the pro game. That’s not a bad thing. So you're saying Peterman knows the pro game? that's ludicrous. He's a backup at best.And plays somewhat decent against future Costco stock boys Watch him chit the bed when the Chargers roll into town. And they will bring heat. Or any team in the regular season for that matter. Peterman has shown what he's got. Nothing but a pre season scrimmage player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Edit: Just rewatched the "every throw by Allen" video. Based on his play regardless of the OL and WR help he had and kept getting up and staying poise. I voted Allen 4 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Allen. Both his ceiling and floor are higher than AJM 's or Peterman's, all he's lacking is experience. Might as well get him as much as he can this year rather than keep him in bubble wrap. Physically, he's also the best suited to survive behind an leaky OL. Start the kid and don't look back. This^ THe Every Throw video showed him getting slammed hard on multiple occasions. He is a tough hombre. I believe this game was the experience he needed to get to work and grow from it. As long as they don't pick AJM I'm fine with the choice but I would go with Josh. Put him in the fire and let him grow! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 7 hours ago, COTC said: Mr. Pick 6?? are you saying he has the opportunity to start? Hahaha. Come on man!! Truth is, there is no !@#$ing way Peterman sees the field. No !@#$ing way. Smh @ Mr. pick 6. Worse QB in Bills history. So many dumb things here. You first ignore the actual question asked in the OP. Who is the best right now? And based on the preseason it's Peterman. It will be Allen but not right now. The truly dumb thing is saying he's the worst ever. Have you watched the Bills since 1960? I have. I'll throw a few names out. Darraugh. Marangi. Ferraragamo. Dufek. And so on. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Allen did not have time to wait for receivers to run the routes called. I don't blame Allen for that just glad his shoulder is healed to take that many sacks. With Dawkins back and the rest of the OL set ,now let them get in sync , should be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Process Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 9 hours ago, Lfod said: I look at Peterman as a future Tom Brady if he works out like a freak. He still needs to hit the gym. I see Josh Allen as a human rocket launcher. I love the potential. #TeamPeterman. Peterman might be able to throw LIKE Brady one day....Allen could throw BRADY now! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark92 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 9 hours ago, The Jokeman said: On the field it's been Peterman but his got a lower ceiling than Allen. I'd consider Nate a 7, McCarron a 6 and Allen a 5 if ranking 1-10, with 10 being Brady/Rogers/Brees type. Wow! Peterman a 7? I would say he is a 6 with Allen and AJ at a 5 for different reasons of course. Allen's potential is high but AJ's talent is only a 5. Just remember......... The Ravens won a freaking super bowl with Trent Dilfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 10 hours ago, Commonsense said: We can revisit this in the near future. Peterman is atrocious, he couldn’t throw a rock through a window. What if the window had San Diego Chargers-themed curtains? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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