PlayoffsPlease Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) Who is the Bills best QB right now. Not potential, Not who is best behind a crappy oline. Plain and simple who do you think is the best QB today. Edited August 30, 2018 by PlayoffsPlease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Peterman. Laugh all you want but Peterman is playing the best right now. And it's not close. Allen will take over at some point this season, but your best shot to beat the Ravens is with Peterman 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Peterman, but I think by the end of the year, Allen. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Peterman. Laugh all you want but Peterman is playing the best right now. And it's not close. Allen will take over at some point this season, but your best shot to beat the Ravens is with Peterman We can revisit this in the near future. Peterman is atrocious, he couldn’t throw a rock through a window. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Just now, Commonsense said: We can revisit this in the near future. Peterman is atrocious, he couldn’t throw a rock through a window. Look at his completion percentage this preseason. Another example of never letting facts obscure your opinion. Is Peterman ultimately better than Allen? Of course not. Is he playing better right now? There is no logical reason to say he's not. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Just now, oldmanfan said: Look at his completion percentage this preseason. Another example of never letting facts obscure your opinion. Is Peterman ultimately better than Allen? Of course not. Is he playing better right now? There is no logical reason to say he's not. You’re putting stock in preseason stats. Then when he runs face first into a brick wall you can act surprised. He doesn’t have enough arm talent to do anything besides mop up duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Just now, Commonsense said: You’re putting stock in preseason stats. Then when he runs face first into a brick wall you can act surprised. He doesn’t have enough arm talent to do anything besides mop up duty. Since arm talent isn’t a thing, Peterman simply doesn’t have enough arm strength. That’s really it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Peterman has been the best QB all summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Logan Thomas was who I voted for, but thats "right now" now a minute from now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 On the field it's been Peterman but his got a lower ceiling than Allen. I'd consider Nate a 7, McCarron a 6 and Allen a 5 if ranking 1-10, with 10 being Brady/Rogers/Brees type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, Commonsense said: You’re putting stock in preseason stats. Then when he runs face first into a brick wall you can act surprised. He doesn’t have enough arm talent to do anything besides mop up duty. I'd suggest going back and looking at the sideline throw to Benjamin in the Carolina game. That throw takes a strong arm. Is it as strong as Allen's? No, but Petermans arm is plenty strong enough for this league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) I look at Peterman as a future Tom Brady if he works out like a freak. He still needs to hit the gym. I see Josh Allen as a human rocket launcher. I love the potential. #TeamPeterman. Edited August 30, 2018 by Lfod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: Since arm talent isn’t a thing, Peterman simply doesn’t have enough arm strength. That’s really it. It's not even strength. It's quickness and form. Allen's release is like a Bruce Lee 1-inch punch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 It’s Peterman right now. Allen obviously has the most potential but potential just means you haven’t done squat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Steptide said: I'd suggest going back and looking at the sideline throw to Benjamin in the Carolina game. That throw takes a strong arm. Is it as strong as Allen's? No, but Petermans arm is plenty strong enough for this league Are you talking about the touchdown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Steptide said: I'd suggest going back and looking at the sideline throw to Benjamin in the Carolina game. That throw takes a strong arm. Is it as strong as Allen's? No, but Petermans arm is plenty strong enough for this league Eh, it’s ok for a backup. I feel like he will get exposed big time in the regular season. But the guy earned the job this preseason. Good for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted August 30, 2018 Author Share Posted August 30, 2018 Just now, The Jokeman said: On the field it's been Peterman but his got a lower ceiling than Allen. I'd consider Nate a 7, McCarron a 6 and Allen a 5 if ranking 1-10, with 10 being Brady/Rogers/Brees type. Peterman or Allen, if the starter will both likely be considered the worst starting QB in the NFL by objective third party observers. Its laughable to suggest Peterman is 70% as good a Brady (7/10) and that Allen is 71% as good as Peterman (5 vs 7). The Gap between Peterman and Brady is a giant chasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Lfod said: I look at Peterman as a future Tom Brady if he works out like a freak. He still needs to hit the gym. I see Josh Allen as a human rocket launcher. I love the potential. #TeamPeterman. So if he works out hard he will be the best QB ever, win 5 Super Bowls and play in 8? Sign me up!! Edited August 30, 2018 by Kirby Jackson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 i voted Allen because i look at it like this... on Allen's best day, he can do what Peterman can do, an so much more. But on Peterman's best day, he cannot do what Allen can. Peterman has a better understanding of the quick passing attack. he can make quick decisions and get the ball out in a hurry. he can even scramble and use his legs as an asset. but the physical attributes of Allen, to me, outweigh the polish and readiness of Peterman to run this offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, Lfod said: I look at Peterman as a future Tom Brady if he works out like a freak. He still needs to hit the gym. I see Josh Allen as a human rocket launcher. I love the potential. #TeamPeterman. Oh man. Pass the dutchie on the left hand side. 2 minutes ago, swnybillsfan said: i voted Allen because i look at it like this... on Allen's best day, he can do what Peterman can do, an so much more. But on Peterman's best day, he cannot do what Allen can. Peterman has a better understanding of the quick passing attack. he can make quick decisions and get the ball out in a hurry. he can even scramble and use his legs as an asset. but the physical attributes of Allen, to me, outweigh the polish and readiness of Peterman to run this offense. Let’s be honest - everything about Allen is about potential. Of the 3 qbs on our roster, Allen was the least productive in college against the worst competition. Allen has all the physical abilities but the nfl has seen those guys before. He still has a ways to go and putting him out there too soon might crush him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 31 minutes ago, Commonsense said: We can revisit this in the near future. Peterman is atrocious, he couldn’t throw a rock through a window. really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Peterman has been the best QB all summer. Doing what..throwing safe passes? That style won't win you many games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: So if he works out hard he will be the best QB ever, win 5 Super Bowls as play in 8? Sign me up!! Ok I was stretching a bit. I see him as a guy that if he turns into a fitness freak he could lead a team to a Superbowl and possibly win one. Just understand that when I say fitness freak it has to be at the level he goes so hard he's writing books about his diet when he's franchise. I don't think he has had the time to live the type of life to get his body to the level it needs to be. You will see some bad next season if he starts in my opinion. Edited August 30, 2018 by Lfod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Peterman. All day!!!!! The only chance any QB has behind this line, on obvious passing downs is a quick release. Hopefully , JA gets there but he is not there yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 35 minutes ago, Commonsense said: We can revisit this in the near future. Peterman is atrocious, he couldn’t throw a rock through a window. Apparently you haven’t seen his trick shot video 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Booey Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) Peterman will start, but I really hope Daboll removed the 10 yd down and out from the playbook. Because thats a pick 6 waiting to happen. Edited August 30, 2018 by Baba Booey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Poor AJ. Not even 1 sympathy vote (yet) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: Doing what..throwing safe passes? That style won't win you many games... It won nine games last year?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Buffalo Boy said: It won nine games last year?? If we could of scored my points last year just imagine what this team could of done. Especially with all those turnovers early in the season. We literally would have walked all over the Panthers instead of losing. We could of dominated the Jaguars. Edited August 30, 2018 by Lfod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Apparently you haven’t seen his trick shot video And that was before he even had an avocado smoothie! Imagine the possibilities! Peterman has played the best this preseason. That’s hard to argue. They all played against 1’s, 2’s and 3’s. Peterman has it figured out more than Allen, but he will never have his physical gifts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Peterman's quick release will get you 20 picks by the end of the season. He's the best passer at throwing on time and at a WR but he's going to throw it whether he should or not. McCarron will most likely be the most similiar to Taylor which believe it or not is everyones best chance of winning (at the moment) and Allen seems to have a lot of talent but the question is still there about being up to NFL speed and do they want to throw him out there. Peterman is simply all or nothing and he may have a few flashes but he's no Vinny Testaverde ............. or is he :)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Vs a tough defense, tough pass rush only one Qb on the roster has the ability to escape the pocket. That's Allen. Under similar circumstances I trust Peterman the least. Off platform, off rythem passes will be turnovers with Peterman. Baltimore, San Diego, Minnesota will have a feild day with a Peterman led offense. Pack the box stop McCoy, third and long jump the outside routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: Doing what..throwing safe passes? That style won't win you many games... That’s mostly what Brady does, but then, they name allowed to run a pick play at will. They are the Pats*, you know.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 11 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Let’s be honest - everything about Allen is about potential. Of the 3 qbs on our roster, Allen was the least productive in college against the worst competition. Allen has all the physical abilities but the nfl has seen those guys before. He still has a ways to go and putting him out there too soon might crush him. he is absolutely all about potential. but i am too old to keep waiting. i don't need the kid to play right away, but i do need this coaching staff to be 100% all in on this kid when they do put him in. no flip flopping. once he is your starter, he is your starter until he retires and goes up on the wall, or you know that he is a bum and you have drafted the next guy. i really do like peterman, but if he is starting, all he is doing is buying time. and i guess i am ok with that, i just don't want the poor kid to go out there and get hit with boos and "we want Allen" chants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Poor AJ. Not even 1 sympathy vote (yet) AJ looks slow on the draw when I watch him play. Toss in he likes to check it down a bit he's a game manager at best yet a pretty decent backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 For me it is two close to vote Nate/Josh. My gut says Nate yet my desire wants Josh. I will say that Nate has improved in one year more then I have seen as a fan in the last 15 years of the drought. I do think that improvement and his play on the field puts him up front. That said, we did not see any RAP at all in the last 2 games or the gaget plays at all. I think that is by design. Also we have not seen the two in the meeting room or on the practice field as of late. Also, there have been alot of Nate sucks/Josh shouldnt have been the pick people on this page. There is now way to win an argument with either because of your strong bias. May the best man get us back in the playoffs All that said, We will be looking for a 4th QB this year if what we saw on the line play Sunday is what we will see this season. LET"S GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, Lfod said: If we could of scored my points last year just imagine what this team could of done. Especially with all those turnovers early in the season. We literally would have walked all over the Panthers instead of losing. We could of dominated the Jaguars. Was at the Panthers game...... BRUTAL offensive showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 This vote shouldn't even be close. Look at the current facts and what you have seen with your own eyes. Peterman has clearly and emphatically won this job. He will start. If not, that means that McDermott's "trust the process" cannot be trusted. The processes in place have revealed the starter. Clearly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 OHHH ? AJ got his sympathy vote. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: Was at the Panthers game...... BRUTAL offensive showing. It just felt like so many missed opportunites last season. It was frustrating at times. Even in the games we won sometimes I wished Tyrod could turn it up. Offense needs to be cut throats. Edited August 30, 2018 by Lfod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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