Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 7, 2018 Author Share Posted August 7, 2018 1 minute ago, njbuff said: Um, call me crazy, but................................. Wouldn't the Bills trade for Mack with the idea of pairing him up with Edmunds? Involving Edmunds in a trade for Mack defeats the very idea of acquiring Mack in the first place. Uggh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Uggh.... There is no way in hell that Beane is going to involve Edmunds in a trade for Mack. Get over it. And if this actually happens.............. I will apologize directly to you. That's how confident I am that this will NEVER happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 7, 2018 Author Share Posted August 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Augie said: Hard to ignore proven talent, but it may be on time where potential and cost effectiveness rule. (Regardless of different positions.) Oh, Edmunds is going to be a beast. Pray he remains healthy. God doesn’t make too many football players with his mix of size/speed/talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Davis might literally not have the $$ in the bank to pay Mack his signing bonus... Mack is great but trading a great LB for a supposedly top 1-2 pick plus some throw ins is a decent deal I think Bills pick might be 20-30 range but everyone thinks we'll be terrible so that might help... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Uggh.... He missed that we are offering a 2034 5th rounder for Mack, but the Raiders will save all that cap space for Gruden’s offense. Or, just maybe, we’re not all on the same page here. We will not be signing Mack, so, whatever..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Why are we assuming the trade isn't for Aaron Donald? How have we focused solely on Mack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Raiders hold all the cards except the credit card.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 7, 2018 Author Share Posted August 7, 2018 Just now, njbuff said: There is no way in hell that Beane is going to involve Edmunds in a trade for Mack. Get over it. And if this actually happens.............. I will apologize directly to you. That's how confident I am that this will NEVER happen. No one ever said Edmunds would be part of any trade. What the hell are you talking about, dude?! Please read through the thread before you post stupid ****. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Edmunds is the everlasting Gronk stopper! He stays. Brady cries. Belichick smirks, but only to acknowledge that it's over. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeIGiveADarn Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Raiders hold all the cards except the credit card.... Yes, but those cards are held my a coach who's been out of the league for 10 years, and only success came from taking a team a HOF head coach built to a Super Bowl and them dismantling it. Let's not kid ourselves. The Raiders are nearly at Browns level of organizational disfunction Edited August 7, 2018 by LikeIGiveADarn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Just now, LikeIGiveADarn said: Yes, but those cards are hekd my a coach who's been out of the league for 10 years, and only success came from taking a team a HOF head coach built to a Super Bowl and them dismantling it. Lwt's not kid ourselves. The Raiders are nearly at Browns level of organizational disfunction My point exactly. Their owner is broke as far as NFL owners go. Just plain doesn't have the cash to pay Mack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Logic said: All logical signs would tend to point to Adolphus or Shaq being dealt for a late round pick. Or, Beane could shock us and trade FOR another quality player. But at what position would that happen? And for what player? Spittin' in the wind... I'm going with literally not done at WR. That's all I got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 44 minutes ago, Virgil said: Is Mack here yet? still waiting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Getty Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 You guys have all gone a bit crazy whoever thinks we would trade a LB we just moved up for in the draft for another LB. Because that would make alot of sense. Fine me a trade like this that has ever happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 7, 2018 Author Share Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, iccrewman112 said: Why are we assuming the trade isn't for Aaron Donald? How have we focused solely on Mack? Donald is a DT. Given our current personnel, I don’t feel strongly that Beane would make a huge move for him. DE is going to be a glaring need for this team. Hughes is getting up there, Murphy is a big fat ?, and you know the story after them. 3 minutes ago, Estelle Getty said: You guys have all gone a bit crazy whoever thinks we would trade a LB we just moved up for in the draft for another LB. Because that would make alot of sense. Fine me a trade like this that has ever happened. Wow. Did you actually read through the thread. Quote a single post where anyone suggests including Edmunds in a trade would be a smart idea. Go ahead...I’ll wait. Edited August 7, 2018 by Johnny Hammersticks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Donald is a DT. Given our current personnel, I don’t feel strongly that Beane would make a huge move for him. DE is going to be a glaring need for this team. Hughes is getting up there, Murphy is a big fat ?, and you know the story after them. I was mainly kidding. But I see our DT situation as not great after this season. Just Star and Phillips. Need to be able to have a rotation in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 7, 2018 Author Share Posted August 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, iccrewman112 said: I was mainly kidding. But I see our DT situation as not great after this season. Just Star and Phillips. Need to be able to have a rotation in there. Hey. I LOVE me some Aaron Donald. But I think DE is a more pressing need (especially if there is a stud available), and DT depth can be attained in the draft/FA. WTF do I know though....? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 18 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Hey. I LOVE me some Aaron Donald. But I think DE is a more pressing need (especially if there is a stud available), and DT depth can be attained in the draft/FA. WTF do I know though....? Why not just trade Shaq for Mack and Adolpus for Donald? Both problems solved. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Im sorry but who the !@#$ is astro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 7, 2018 Author Share Posted August 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: Im sorry but who the !@#$ is astro? He’s the dog from the Jetson’s. I follow him on Twitter. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, KW95 said: Didn't the Bills once have a chance at this player from Buffalo University? You mean the State University of New York at Buffalo? Aka SUNYAB Aka SUNY Buffalo Aka UB? Edited August 7, 2018 by matter2003 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Wait.. the bills traded Edmunds for Mack and Allen for Donald????!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lfod said: I'm going with literally not done at WR. That's all I got. Dez is still around/unemployed, right? I am no WR guru, but what about Dez and Coleman on the outside, and KB in the slot. KB beats nobody with speed. Feels like he could be a good possession receiver. Edited August 7, 2018 by Mango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 7, 2018 Author Share Posted August 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mango said: Dez is still around/unemployed, right? I am no WR guru, but what about Dez and Coleman on the outside, and KB in the slot. KB beats nobody with speed. Feels like he could be a good possession receiver. Dez allegedly will only sign with a “contender.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said: Davis might literally not have the $$ in the bank to pay Mack his signing bonus... Mack is great but trading a great LB for a supposedly top 1-2 pick plus some throw ins is a decent deal I think Bills pick might be 20-30 range but everyone thinks we'll be terrible so that might help... This. Plus, Gruden can be tyrannical. I can see where holding out from his 1st camp in a decade could be viewed as an affront to his ego where he may go all ‘Ill show Him whose boss! I’ll ship hizaazz to Buffalo!’ As for AstroDean, he has the personal character McDermott salivates after. He does knows people who know people.. ordering my PIPEDREAM#52 now!? 1 hour ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: He’s the dog from the Jetson’s. I follow him on Twitter. ? Ranks!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKellyTryouts Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Not that he'd be a trade chip anyways, but the Raiders passed on Edmunds in the draft to begin with - lots of my Raiders fan friends thought he was a lock there, just like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 It smells like another WR or OL help.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 48 minutes ago, JimKellyTryouts said: Not that he'd be a trade chip anyways, but the Raiders passed on Edmunds in the draft to begin with - lots of my Raiders fan friends thought he was a lock there, just like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 6 hours ago, Virgil said: Is Mack here yet? ....window seat at Applebee's....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Remember that time when he almost traded for Andrew Luck? Feels a lot like that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Josh Allen for Josh Rosen makes too much sense. Beane admits his mistake. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 1 hour ago, TheTruthHurts said: Josh Allen for Josh Rosen makes too much sense. Beane admits his mistake. At the press conference for that event, Rosen proclaims himself the 'smartest person in the room'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donbb Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That article echoes the poster who said earlier the Raiders literally cannot afford to pay Mack. In my opinion, this lessens Mack's trade value. I'd offer the Raiders a 2020 1st round pick and Shaq Lawson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 2 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said: Josh Allen for Josh Rosen makes too much sense. Beane admits his mistake. Here. https://www.nflshop.com/Mens_Arizona_Cardinals_Josh_Rosen_Nike_Cardinal_2018_NFL_Draft_First_Round_Pick_Game_Jersey/t-36487897+o-7983+d-128222345+f-7826016+z-9-2241152022?_s=ak1944nfl-pla&sku=10901740 Wear it with pride on Sundays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 10 hours ago, TheFunPolice said: It is going to be so much fun when both these teams (Sabres and Bills) really start getting legitimately good.... It's coming! Not sure if I have 17 years left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr. Jerk Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JXCOL3 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Sitting at my desk waiting for some news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 9 hours ago, John from Riverside said: There is no way in Hades that Edmunds gets traded The coaches love him This team mostly biulds through the draft with a few ninja type signings like the one this week. Somehow some way we have 2 former first round picks at WR on the roster and have not given up much. Beane is smart Let’s be honest, here. One of those 2 is a Browns 1st round pick which means he was probably a 3rd-5th round talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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