H2o Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/raiders-nfl/raiders/raiders-fear-suspension-for-wr-martavis-bryant/ I know a lot of people on the board wanted this guy and I had heard we tried to trade for him last year, but it seems we may have made the right move by not continuing to pursue a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 So much talent So little brains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Same as Richie. I was upset we didn’t take him back until he lost it at that gym. I just hope he gets the mental health treatment he needs to live a decent life. I doubt anyone is going to pick him up now. He is too much of a risk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I don’t recall any player in the ‘drug program’ missing a required spot check and NOT being penalized. Still on his rookie contract and already on his 3rd team, for a superior talent, is pretty telling.. Can Oakland get the pick back if he’s suspended for another year or more? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: I don’t recall any player in the ‘drug program’ missing a required spot check and NOT being penalized. Still on his rookie contract and already on his 3rd team, for a superior talent, is pretty telling.. Can Oakland get the pick back if he’s suspended for another year or more? 2nd team. I would assume that would have to have been negotiated in the trade. If Pittsburgh wanted to get rid of him bad enough, a clause could have been entered in the contract. Although if I was the Steelers, I would have never been open to that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: 2nd team. I would assume that would have to have been negotiated in the trade. If Pittsburgh wanted to get rid of him bad enough, a clause could have been entered in the contract. Although if I was the Steelers, I would have never been open to that. I doubt the Steelers opened themselves to anything like that. The risk is why Oakland was able to get a first round talent for a third round pick, unfortunately it looks like they should have stayed away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: 2nd team. I would assume that would have to have been negotiated in the trade. If Pittsburgh wanted to get rid of him bad enough, a clause could have been entered in the contract. Although if I was the Steelers, I would have never been open to that. He didn’t start with Da Bears?? I must be thinking of someone else. With a season-long suspension already, this would be a 4th infraction, no? If so, he gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: He didn’t start with Da Bears?? I must be thinking of someone else. With a season-long suspension already, this would be a 4th infraction, no? If so, he gone. I think it might be more than a 4th infraction. I don't want to google this at work but I think it goes like this: 1st infraction - not made public, no games suspended. Warning and rehab program. 2nd infraction - made public, 1 game suspension 3rd infraction - made public, 4 game suspension 4th infraction - made public, 10 game suspension 5th infraction - made public, 16 games So if I'm right and Bryant does get suspended again...that'll be 6th? Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Edited June 15, 2018 by Royale with Cheese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) All he had to do is clean his act up and he had a golden ticket. Definitely lacking smarts. Edited June 15, 2018 by Bill_with_it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bill_with_it said: All he had to do is clean his act up and he had a golden ticket. Definitely lacking smarts. I’m guessing it’s more than a “smarts” issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Gruden definitely has some Rex Ryan in him. Maybe he’ll bring Percy Harvin put of retirement too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I’m guessing it’s more than a “smarts” issue Yeah he has to be dumb to put that garbage in hus body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 33 minutes ago, Commonsense said: I doubt the Steelers opened themselves to anything like that. The risk is why Oakland was able to get a first round talent for a third round pick, unfortunately it looks like they should have stayed away. Seems to be the kind of player the Raiders liked in the past...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 The comparison to Incognito is off base. The Bills took a chance on a Pro Bowl guard. Bryant is and has always been a lot of hype. Never had more than 50 catches in a season, never had 1000 yards. He has never been worth the headache. He is tall and fast and thats about where it ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 32 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I think it might be more than a 4th infraction. I don't want to google this at work but I think it goes like this: 1st infraction - not made public, no games suspended. Warning and rehab program. 2nd infraction - made public, 1 game suspension 3rd infraction - made public, 4 game suspension 4th infraction - made public, 10 game suspension 5th infraction - made public, 16 games So if I'm right and Bryant does get suspended again...that'll be 6th? Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I think 1st infraction puts you "in the program" Then it takes 2 more for anything to be made public and it comes with a 4 game suspension. So even getting a 4 game suspension shows complete idiotic decision making, 4-5-6.......just write them off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 likely gone for the year again right? what an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 It's gonna be fun watching Gruden destroy the Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 “Everyone knows marijuana is a drug enhancement that can help you on track and field to come last in a team of 8 million other runners… who are all dead.” - Eddie Izzard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted June 15, 2018 Author Share Posted June 15, 2018 If there are legs to this story then Bryant just cost himself millions of dollars. All he had to do was keep his nose/lungs clean and he would have at least gotten around 7 mill per. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 trying to look cool to friends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsInWilmingtonNC Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Raiders should look into trading for Josh Gordon... Gruden would love him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Its so easy to beat the substance abuse testing in the NFL these guys have to be idiots to get caught...its designed to give the appearance they are policing things when in reality there are gaping holes in the testing periods where guys can do whatever and not worry about it... If guys get caught, they are simply idiots and it shows a lot about their intelligence levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 so glad we didn't trade for this bum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Already suspended an entire season correct? So next one is indefinite. Who needs those mid round picks though amirite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I would have traded for that guy in a second. Thought we would have learned his lesson. What with some of these players. I can't believe they would throw there career . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 There were some people here that wanted to trade a high round pick or player for this player........ It just goes to show you that the guys that pay their bills running the football team MIGHT just know a little more then we do on given situations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 17 hours ago, benderbender said: “Everyone knows marijuana is a drug enhancement that can help you on track and field to come last in a team of 8 million other runners… who are all dead.” - Eddie Izzard Sounds like your dressed to kill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Should I point out that some people just cannot kick the pot habit or should I avoid the ensuing 4 pages of crap espousing its virtues? I'll decide later but I think I'll avoid the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: Should I point out that some people just cannot kick the pot habit or should I avoid the ensuing 4 pages of crap espousing its virtues? I'll decide later but I think I'll avoid the whole thing. ...true......it's a huge dichotomy of sorts....look at it from an employer/employee relationship.....when the employee is "in the care, custody and control of the employer (ie. work hours)", employer has a set of standards that will be maintained as a "condition of employment"....outside that control parameter, employee is on their own time......certainly true that employer can have a "Code of Conduct" during off hours if drugs, alcohol, etc result in violation of laws (DWI, assault, murder, etc) that is detrimental to the company...so why does the NFL get to operate in a 24/7/365 purview?.....seems to be an unreasonable condition of employment.....why isn't "care, custody & control" defined as the start of mandatory OTA's and ends when you team's season ends?.....sure random test during that period, but why after the season is done or before mandatory OTA's?.....I missed something I guess.... Edited June 16, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 On 6/15/2018 at 9:44 AM, BillsInWilmingtonNC said: Raiders should look into trading for Josh Gordon... Gruden would love him Except Josh acknowledges his problem and is actually an unreal player...perhaps top 3 at WR in the league when he is on his game. Martavis is all talent no brains on or off the field. Josh is a screw-up who puts it together every time he steps on the field. 7 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: Should I point out that some people just cannot kick the pot habit or should I avoid the ensuing 4 pages of crap espousing its virtues? I'll decide later but I think I'll avoid the whole thing. That's a fair statement. I do believe that some of these players are using it for the right reasons. Football is very hard on the body. It is very hard on the mind. Pot is fantastic at removing the mind from the body and relaxing you. However, it is a banned substance and if the league where you are paid very handsomely to play is saying no, then the answer is no. Don't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 22 hours ago, John from Riverside said: There were some people here that wanted to trade a high round pick or player for this player........ It just goes to show you that the guys that pay their bills running the football team MIGHT just know a little more then we do on given situations. The irony of your post of course being that allegedly the guys running the team were also interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 56 minutes ago, NoSaint said: The irony of your post of course being that allegedly the guys running the team were also interested. Alleg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Alleg Come on John.... you used a mediocre example to try to make your point and knock other posters. even if we throw away the reports and go with the idea that beane wasn’t interested.... what is it that you are thinking he knew that other guys paid to run teams didn’t know? Occams shaver is that we were interested in taking the risk but we’re more interested in risking Benjamin’s knees at a slight premium than Bryant’s decision making. Raiders likewise were interested in the risk and simply were on the unlucky end of it so far (though it didn’t cost them terribly much)... and last year didn’t pan out all that great for KB either. It’s what teams do- take some risks that you can’t guarantee the outcome of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 3 hours ago, NoSaint said: Come on John.... you used a mediocre example to try to make your point and knock other posters. even if we throw away the reports and go with the idea that beane wasn’t interested.... what is it that you are thinking he knew that other guys paid to run teams didn’t know? Occams shaver is that we were interested in taking the risk but we’re more interested in risking Benjamin’s knees at a slight premium than Bryant’s decision making. Raiders likewise were interested in the risk and simply were on the unlucky end of it so far (though it didn’t cost them terribly much)... and last year didn’t pan out all that great for KB either. It’s what teams do- take some risks that you can’t guarantee the outcome of. So you really think Bryant fits the process huh? or does tying him to the bills simply because we lack name we talent seem much more plausible by the way I never meant to knock anyone on it I just don’t believe every rumor posted especially if it does not appear to fit the profile of the team we seem to be trying to biuldbuild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Boy i wonder what those here that wanted the Bills to bring him here think now that he has this hovering over him ?? With his actions prior to the trade i didn't think he was a Mc Bean guy !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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