YoloinOhio Posted May 15, 2018 Author Share Posted May 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: So you mean an average at best receiver talent who was cut by another team due to not even being below average in his production? Right up their alley. Don’t forget special teams ability! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Don’t forget special teams ability! ...oh joy....a Bobby April ST overload with guys who can't do squat at their natural positions when called upon.....Crossman is drooling all over his Adidas..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 get er done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) cool Edited May 15, 2018 by THE SLAMMER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 I really dont see what the problem is At worst he is camp fodder At best he actually finds his game and contributes This receiving core is going to be based on 2 things.......Kelvin's health and Zay's ability to overcome that horrible rookie season....there are role players that you hope can contibute someting in Streater and Kerley.....its starts with Kelvin and Zay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 I don’t understand why we don’t ever try and bring in good WRs? This guy is a nobody. The only team with WRs as bad as us, is Carolina. This guy wasn’t even one of their better Recievers. There are good WRs still available. Certainly day 1 of FA there was a ton. Same thing can be said for the draft. I realize the thought was Zay would be a big time player and I appreciated KB. But we need more then this. Sheppard is just another one of the “nobodies” we have now. Bring in Dez, or Mclin or Decker. Call Denver and see what they would take for D Thomas. Get creative. How does this guy even really help? Go get a guy that can start and help. Especially with major question marks surrounding KBs health and Zay Jones’ ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I don’t understand why we don’t ever try and bring in good WRs? This guy is a nobody. The only team with WRs as bad as us, is Carolina. This guy wasn’t even one of their better Recievers. There are good WRs still available. Certainly day 1 of FA there was a ton. Same thing can be said for the draft. I realize the thought was Zay would be a big time player and I appreciated KB. But we need more then this. Sheppard is just another one of the “nobodies” we have now. Bring in Dez, or Mclin or Decker. Call Denver and see what they would take for D Thomas. Get creative. How does this guy even really help? Go get a guy that can start and help. Especially with major question marks surrounding KBs health and Zay Jones’ ability. I would consider Kelvin Benjamin to be a try at a "good" receiver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 On 5/14/2018 at 2:13 PM, YoloinOhio said: He was decent with Tampa which led to the deal Carolina paid him in FA last year and plays ST. Beane was there when he was signed. http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article211094469.html He's worth a look, at worst he'd be a guy to compete with Streater for the 5th WR spot and a STer. 27 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I really dont see what the problem is At worst he is camp fodder At best he actually finds his game and contributes This receiving core is going to be based on 2 things.......Kelvin's health and Zay's ability to overcome that horrible rookie season....there are role players that you hope can contibute someting in Streater and Kerley.....its starts with Kelvin and Zay. Kerley is a proven depth WR and Holmes has shown he can be a red zone specialist. While I'd like to improve our depth with a guy like Maclin or Kamar Aiken I don't think our WR depth is as horrible as people make it out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 On 5/14/2018 at 5:27 PM, Kirby Jackson said: This Bills must have employed the most former QBs that changed positions. Shepard is a not brainer. He is the new Brad Smith, Joe Webb, Logan Thomas... whats a not brainer ? i am old and not up on the hep lingo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Brandon Beane and McDermott like what they know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: whats a not brainer ? i am old and not up on the hep lingo Is that hep A, B or C lingo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 39 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: He's worth a look, at worst he'd be a guy to compete with Streater for the 5th WR spot and a STer. Kerley is a proven depth WR and Holmes has shown he can be a red zone specialist. While I'd like to improve our depth with a guy like Maclin or Kamar Aiken I don't think our WR depth is as horrible as people make it out to be. I like Kerley a lot. I think people are sleeping on him a bit. Honestly, I don't love Holmes, but he is big and really the only height on the team outside of KB. I think Shepard could be a younger, more interesting and cheaper version of Holmes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: Is that hep A, B or C lingo? Yes of course! I had forgotten. You Kids use the word "Hip" these days. it means current and cool i think. Just like "Hep" but different letters. ☺️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Elite Poster said: The guy we drafted best case scenario will be the QB you are detesting. Says you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 11 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I like Kerley a lot. I think people are sleeping on him a bit. Honestly, I don't love Holmes, but he is big and really the only height on the team outside of KB. I think Shepard could be a younger, more interesting and cheaper version of Holmes. 11 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I like Kerley a lot. I think people are sleeping on him a bit. Honestly, I don't love Holmes, but he is big and really the only height on the team outside of KB. I think Shepard could be a younger, more interesting and cheaper version of Holmes. I was a bit of a fan when Bills picked him up so quickly. I think he will be reliable Rec. Holmes and Benjamin are both RZ threats and could be a nice duo down there. KB has more to his game but i fear is a health risk with those knees. Not that bad but not that good of a core. and this guy is not going to move the meter IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Hopefully the NFL gets rid of kickoffs SOON so the Bills stop thinking that 5 of their top 6 WR have to be plus special teamers. It's a passing league not a kick coverage league. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 19 hours ago, Elite Poster said: The guy we drafted best case scenario will be the QB you are detesting. I strongly disagree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 5 years in the league. 47 Rec for 600 yds, 4td's Last year CAR had no WR's and he still had minimal impact. In TAM it was Mike Evans and nobody and he had minimal impact. Was undrafted out of LSU At LSU was a contributor but not a star. Caught 6 passes his senior year. Yep - He solves all of our woes at WR... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Just now, ngbills said: 5 years in the league. 47 Rec for 600 yds, 4td's Last year CAR had no WR's and he still had minimal impact. In TAM it was Mike Evans and nobody and he had minimal impact. Was undrafted out of LSU At LSU was a contributor but not a star. Caught 6 passes his senior year. Yep - He solves all of our woes at WR... He was a QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: He was a QB He was a QB in the wildcat his freshman year. He played WR/RB the next three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: He was a QB Ohhhh....Maybe we'll get to see Russell Shepard's package?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 17 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said: Brandon Beane and McDermott like what they know. Which is common in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 This guy has some special teams ability but not much more than that IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 21 minutes ago, ngbills said: He was a QB in the wildcat his freshman year. He played WR/RB the next three years. He was recruited as a QB. He was one of the top recruits in the country. It wasn’t really the wildcat as much as he was a bad passer. He was a slash player that wasn’t a talented enough skill player to play ahead of others there. His LSU stats really don’t tell much of the story, good or bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: He was recruited as a QB. He was one of the top recruits in the country. It wasn’t really the wildcat as much as he was a bad passer. He was a slash player that wasn’t a talented enough skill player to play ahead of others there. His LSU stats really don’t tell much of the story, good or bad. And he has been a WR for either 5 or 8 years now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 27 minutes ago, ngbills said: And he has been a WR for either 5 or 8 years now... I am confused as to the point that you are trying to make? He isn’t a good receiver now and wasn’t when he became one. He’s a good athlete but that’s about it. I’m not even sure if we are in agreement or not. All that I was saying is his LSU stats are meaningless because he switched positions and tried to learn to be a slash guy. It makes no difference if the Bills bring him in or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 15 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I am confused as to the point that you are trying to make? He isn’t a good receiver now and wasn’t when he became one. He’s a good athlete but that’s about it. I’m not even sure if we are in agreement or not. All that I was saying is his LSU stats are meaningless because he switched positions and tried to learn to be a slash guy. It makes no difference if the Bills bring him in or not. I get confused on here too. I think we agree - he is not a good WR and has enough time now to show that. Good athletic guy but about it. I am so used to hearing "MCD knows him so he must be legit, etc" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 16, 2018 Author Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, ngbills said: I get confused on here too. I think we agree - he is not a good WR and has enough time now to show that. Good athletic guy but about it. I am so used to hearing "MCD knows him so he must be legit, etc" No one said that because McD doesn’t know him. He only played in carolina 1 year, and that was last year. no one has said he’s legit or that he’s, as you put it, the “answer to their WR woes” we just predicted they would bring him in because 1) he’s a WR 2) he was decent in Tampa to the point where Carolina signed him in FA and Beane was still there when they did and 3) he is a very strong ST player which they require for depth players Edited May 16, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: No one said that because McD doesn’t know him. He only played in carolina 1 year, and that was last year. no one has said he’s legit or that he’s, as you put it, the “answer to their WR woes” we just predicted they would bring him in because 1) he’s a WR 2) he was decent in Tampa to the point where Carolina signed him in FA and Beane was still there when they did and 3) he is a very strong ST player which they require for depth players I meant it more as sarcasm and a general mindset we see on here a lot. "Trust the process" and dont question or debate anything because the McBeane team knows whats going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 On 5/14/2018 at 2:15 PM, YoloinOhio said: He was also ST captain for two years in Tampa. McD sending the private jet. Smh sad... this coaching staff love special teams & fullbacks... Why not sign an extra punter & kicker for depth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 I find it interesting that when talking wrs. Nobody talks about Brandon Riley I think he is going to have a place on this team and the bills already have a plan for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 On 5/14/2018 at 2:31 PM, BuffaloBill said: His drop in production is concerning. It’s not like Buffalo has been the land of turnaround stories for poorly performing WR’s. Ah, but he's never played with AJ McCarron, two time national champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 27 minutes ago, Scorp83 said: Smh sad... this coaching staff love special teams & fullbacks... Why not sign an extra punter & kicker for depth This coaching staff is one year in and has already made the playoffs. I’ll refrain from head shaking at this point. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 On 5/15/2018 at 6:12 PM, ScottLaw said: Yes. No matter how much the guy blows. Like I said. McBeane must love bad WR's. I’m sure glad you’ve got your annual “reasons why they’ll suck” arsenal ready to roll... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Does my opinion anger you? Its actually kinda expected of you.....so no reason for anger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Does my opinion anger you? You got anger from that post? LOL, I'm laughing at your predictability. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Do the Bills receivers not suck? Benjamin doesn't suck. I don't think Zay Jones sucks. Kerley isn't trash. Holmes made some plays a year ago. The rest is unknown/unproven. I think Proehl is going to surprise people. Unlike you, I'm not going to trash what I don't know until I see them on the field. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 (edited) A lot of these comments are the same comments said about Hyde, Poyer last year... now those people are singing a different song. When will fans accept the fact the FO and these coaches know more than they do? He may be used in a totally different way than any other way he’s been used in his career. Bring him in... If they all can agree on his role and all be positive that positive things can happen... then why shouldn’t I!!! Edited May 18, 2018 by 1ZAYDAY1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 On May 14, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Homey D. Clown said: The last time I checked, Carolina hasn't really been the end-all place to pull talent from. Don't tell that to McBeane...they're turning the Bills into Carolina North. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 @ScottLaw hey man, congrats on being all-knowing and seeing. You nailed it last year, right? I really think Gillislee would have put us over the hump! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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