Gregg Rosenthal: AFC East Projected Starters

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

2 hours ago, Fadingpain said:

 

 

We are going to be praying for the return of Tyrod by Week 4.

 

 

Yeah not just no but !@#$ no

[White Linen]

2 hours ago, Fadingpain said:

 

 

We are going to be praying for the return of Tyrod by Week 4.

 

 

 

Yeah, the QB notorious for making offensive lines look better than they are.  I'll sacrifice the ability to run around for throwing to the open guy.  

[WMDman]

its a solid roster that McD will coach up

[RiotAct]

2 hours ago, PIP said:

With the number 1 pick the Buffalo Bills select.................

 

nah we’re not going to be that bad!

[Green Lightning]

2 hours ago, Kmart128 said:

I have just a couple differences on OLine. I believe it will go

 

LT: Dawkins

LG: Ryan Groy

C: Russell Bodine

RG: John Miller

RT: Marshall Newhouse

Bodine and Newhouse are depth. Cincy and the Raiders let them go to upgrade the position. I say:

LT:   Dawkins

LG:  Teller

C:     Groy

RG:  Miller

RT:   Mills

[BobChalmers]

3 hours ago, PIP said:

With the number 1 pick the Buffalo Bills select.................

 

Every year...

 

$500 calls BS - you in?

[Prickly Pete]

I think the Bills have good coaching, and expect the team to have an "up and coming" attitude, which means guys playing to win, instead of just picking up paychecks. That's a pretty big difference (if it happens). 

 

No one here really has any idea whether or not Josh Allen will be ready to start this season. We will all have to wait until training camp to get any real feel for Allen. 

 

 

[MDH]

3 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said:

 

Bills will not be throwing the ball much this year. Problem is teams will load up to stop the run. AJ McCarron and these WRs will not help at all keep DBs back. Dez Bryant won't change that. Jeremy Maclin a better fit.

 

Absolutely, I’d much rather the Bills sign Maclin than Dez.

[JerseyBills]

3 hours ago, Fadingpain said:

Seeing the names all spelled out like that in black and white is not encouraging.

 

Have a look at who the QB is, the WR corps, and the OL, in particular.

 

We are going to be praying for the return of Tyrod by Week 4.

 

 

Same negative vibes as last off-season. Same comments, I expect similar outcome... 9-10 wins

By my calculations and personal opinion, we improved every group except OL. Including WR, based on adding KB and losing highly ineffective Matthews and Thompson(27 rec, 1 TD), that's an upgrade all day.

 

So , I disagree completely with this assessment.. This doesn't include elite coaching staff.

2 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said:

Weird how many bad starters the Bills have on the OL. Im talking players that have started multiple seasons but are considered terrible. Bodine, Ducasse, Mills, and Newhouse could all be starters this year.

It's Literally the only positional group that got weaker.

We upgraded every other group.

I'm more optimistic. Groy,Miller and Teller can easily be starting depending what happens,and we got a 2nd year stud at LT. 

 

Also don't sleep on Connor McDermott at RT..

Could be Dawkins-Teller-Groy-Miller-McDermott

With a plethora of veteran backups..

[JerseyBills]

3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Absolutely gross. 

 

 

Lmao. How is losing Thompson a gain? He was their most productive receiver which says a lot about how bad these guys are. 

 

I expect the defense to be improved and solid, but the offense will be down right bad, IMO.

The WR positional group is better than it was last off-season is what I'm saying.

KB- Zay- Kerley-Streater-Holmez-3 rookies > Matthews-Rookie Zay-Thompson-Holmes..Clay & Shady are not being accounted for either, so lets pump the brakes. KB, who is healthy now, gives us a legit # 1 WR, which we didn't have last year.

 

Yea, Thompson and his 1.8 rec per game and 1 TD is such a huge loss ,smh...?

 

[BuffaloHokie13]

10 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

The WR positional group is better than it was last off-season is what I'm saying.

KB- Zay- Kerley-Streater-Holmez-3 rookies > Matthews-Rookie Zay-Thompson-Holmes..Clay & Shady are not being accounted for either, so lets pump the brakes. KB, who is healthy now, gives us a legit # 1 WR, which we didn't have last year.

 

Yea, Thompson and his 1.8 rec per game and 1 TD is such a huge loss ,smh...?

 

He wasn't on our team until week 6. 2.45 receptions per game, including a 100 yard game as his debut on the team.

[thenorthremembers]

4 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said:

That's dumb. Makes zero sense. I would feel much better about Josh Allen if he could sit behind someone like Tyrod for 2 years. Hopefully McCarron can fill that role, we just don't know.

Call it what you will.  I just preferred not to pay a quarterback 16 million dollars a year to do what Tyrod does.  His quarterbacking in the playoff game set the forward pass back a half century.  I cannot believe any fan who watched him play the last three years would sign up for it again.  But, different eyes see different things I suppose.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

15 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Call it what you will.  I just preferred not to pay a quarterback 16 million dollars a year to do what Tyrod does.  His quarterbacking in the playoff game set the forward pass back a half century.  I cannot believe any fan who watched him play the last three years would sign up for it again.  But, different eyes see different things I suppose.

I'm anxious to see what happens this season. 

[Bray Wyatt]

16 hours ago, Green Lightning said:

Bodine and Newhouse are depth. Cincy and the Raiders let them go to upgrade the position. I say:

LT:   Dawkins

LG:  Teller

C:     Groy

RG:  Miller

RT:   Mills

 

This is what I am thinking too, I think Miller wins the RG job this year with the switch back to a power scheme

[nedboy7]

It’s actually a solid team.  No more rebuilding.  Replayoffing 

[Max Fischer]

I'm not overly concerned about the starting WRs but depth is more an issue. Granted, much will depend on what Daboll draws up but I believe McCarron will throw more and WRs will be more likley put into a position to succeed.  If it was based solely on lack of talent the Bills would be out-of-luck, but I don't think that's the case with the current receivers.  

 

Benjamin is a solid receiver.  Last year didn't have much going for it.  KB probably didn't mesh with TT, the defense planned for him, could used more practice time with the starter, he got hurt, etc, etc.  It's not know if he'll get on the same page with McCarron but there's a good chance to work an entire off-season they'll be a decent combo and could easily get to 65+ catches.  Performance Potential:  2017 - 5/10   Projected 2018 - 7/10

 

Zay Jones - I have faith that his talent will overcome whatever issues he had last year.  It seems to be all mental and if he could work that out, Zay will be a solid contributor with 45+ catches.  2017 - 2/10  Projected 2018 -  6/10

 

TE - I think the Bills will get a lot of Clay and Nicklaus' Grandson.  They both played well last year and if healthy, they'll continue to do so in 2018.  2017 - 7/10  Projected 2018 - 7/10

 

Third WR - 2017 was a mess, with a few flash in the pan performances but no one able to solidify the position.  Assuming lack of PED won't harm his ability, Kerley is better than anything the Bills had at this position last season and has the potential for 40+ catches.  

 

Holmes is decent 4th WR but the depth after him gets cloudy but there's a chance one of the draft picks could set up.  

[greeneblitz]

so funny the same negitivity reigns supreme this offseason that did last year, so funny and none of these clowns ever owns up when we far outpace expectations.If this roster had the name Dallas or New York on it, theyd be predicting 8-8 at least.

[Doc]

I agree with the starting lineup except OL:

 

LT-  Dawkins

LG-Teller

C-Groy

RG-Miller (or Ducasse, who actually did alright last year)

RT-McDermott (although this one is up for grabs)

[FLFan]

23 hours ago, Fadingpain said:

Seeing the names all spelled out like that in black and white is not encouraging.

 

Have a look at who the QB is, the WR corps, and the OL, in particular.

 

We are going to be praying for the return of Tyrod by Week 4.

 

 

Maybe you will be praying for Tyrod's return, but not me.  Done with that.  It is way too early for the doom and gloom predictions.

[Mr. WEO]

I stopped reading after "QB:  AJ McCarron"

[Green Lightning]

10 hours ago, Bray Wyatt said:

 

This is what I am thinking too, I think Miller wins the RG job this year with the switch back to a power scheme

I think that is Teller's strength as well. Let's hope!

[billsredneck1]

On 5/7/2018 at 3:55 PM, Buffalo716 said:

 

I feel like they have Bodine plugged in at center.

 

Groy is super valuable wherever he will line up but I feel they signed Bodine to start

i would rather groy at guard than vlad.  isn't lg miller's natural position?

[Rochesterfan]

On 5/7/2018 at 4:32 PM, TheTruthHurts said:

That's dumb. Makes zero sense. I would feel much better about Josh Allen if he could sit behind someone like Tyrod for 2 years. Hopefully McCarron can fill that role, we just don't know.

 

 

I would not want Josh Allen sitting behind TT at all for any length of time.  Their gameplay is to different and TT does not read the field and throw guys open.  Therefore what is Josh going to learn - the offense would be stagnant.

 

Plus TT was on his last year - so you would be paying 16 million for one last year - rather than 10 million to AJ for 2 years and he is a more comparable fit to Allen.

 

In terms of wins and losses - TT might be better than AJ - we won’t know that for a bit, but to help Josh grow - I do not want TT anywhere near him.

[billsredneck1]

On 5/7/2018 at 4:00 PM, jahnyc said:

The roster is being completely remade and they are only about half-way through that process.  The defense appears upgraded and the offense seems to have lost talent overall without finding equivalent or better replacements.  I assume the plan next offseason will be to upgrade the offense with free agent acquisition and draft picks.  I think our offense will be our weak spot this season (and it may be very weak).

this is what i don't get. what did we lose?....ok, a great lg who was probably only gonna be here 1 more year...and apparently, last i checked was retired by his own words. we lost an average center and with bodine being younger, i'll call that a wash.

 

we lost deonte thompson which sucks, but, well it was deonte thompson.  ok, who am i forgetting that we lost that will send our offense backwards? tyrod..no   tolbert?...no  dennison?....no....which reminds me...

 

we have a new oc that has spent quite a bit of time with belichek, just oc'd a college championship (with i believe, a fast wr named foster).. and seems like a bright younger guy who will scheme to his players and not the other way around. i'd feel safe to say he is better than rico.

 

i'd also like to note that our wrs should be 100% healthy, not to mention, we didn't start out with kb last year.

 

we also have a qb who is capable of resembling an actual nfl qb so, i'll call that a plus. so again i ask what did we lose on offense that has supposedly sent us into the abyss?

 

 

Edited May 9, 2018 by billsredneck1

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

That O-Line has train wreck written all over it.

[TonyBeets]

Our defense looks really really good, yes we're hurting at the LB position still, but the depth we have on the defensive line and secondary is scary. 

 

Our offense needs work.  Our offensive line isn't impressive nor is our receiving team.

 

The defense gets me excited.  The offense will give me nightmares.  At least I don't have to watch Tyrod play anymore.

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

On 5/7/2018 at 2:51 PM, I'm Spartacus said:

Ryan Groy should be in there as a starter (center or guard).

 

Yeah, I understand how he reached that conclusion but I'm not sure that's how the Bills see it.

I think Beane, anyway, thinks that Wyatt Teller could be in the mix for a starting job if he "turns his light on".

 

What does anyone know about Adam Redmond (C, 1 yr), Connor McDermott (OT, 2 yr), James Josh (OT, 1 yr) and De'Ondre Wesley (OT, 3 yr)?

 

1 hour ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

That O-Line has train wreck written all over it.

 

I'm worried, personally.  Though I'm told it's not as bad as I fear.  What gets me is how year after year, Belicheck**** somehow manages to turn what look like scraps at OL into solid protection for Brady.

[SouthNYfan]

On 5/7/2018 at 4:02 PM, PIP said:

With the number 1 pick the Buffalo Bills select.................

 

That's why we didn't trade our 2019 ?

21 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Yeah, I understand how he reached that conclusion but I'm not sure that's how the Bills see it.

I think Beane, anyway, thinks that Wyatt Teller could be in the mix for a starting job if he "turns his light on".

 

What does anyone know about Adam Redmond (C, 1 yr), Connor McDermott (OT, 2 yr), James Josh (OT, 1 yr) and De'Ondre Wesley (OT, 3 yr)?

 

I'm worried, personally.  Though I'm told it's not as bad as I fear.

 

I wonder if AJ is a worried as we are?

I bet he paid up his Aflac just to be sure.

[Doc]

50 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Yeah, I understand how he reached that conclusion but I'm not sure that's how the Bills see it.

I think Beane, anyway, thinks that Wyatt Teller could be in the mix for a starting job if he "turns his light on".

 

What does anyone know about Adam Redmond (C, 1 yr), Connor McDermott (OT, 2 yr), James Josh (OT, 1 yr) and De'Ondre Wesley (OT, 3 yr)?

 

 

I'm worried, personally.  Though I'm told it's not as bad as I fear.  What gets me is how year after year, Belicheck**** somehow manages to turn what look like scraps at OL into solid protection for Brady.

 

Dante Scarnecchia does that.  I wish he had stayed retired.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

14 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Dante Scarnecchia does that.  I wish he had stayed retired.

 

Well, sheesh, doesn't he have a cousin or younger brother or fledgeling protege'  or something we can hire?

For that matter, can we hire HIM?