thebandit27 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 9 hours ago, Blokestradamus said: Draft season Blokes is alive. Yodny Cajuste will be a top 5 pick, that is all. Yodny is a MAN! I think he's a walk-in starter for sure, but your prediction would shock me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: Yodny is a MAN! I think he's a walk-in starter for sure, but your prediction would shock me Philly, Dallas, NO and Indianapolis all have top tier OLs. All are contenders for the SB and all of them have put their qbs in a good position to succeed. The Bills are in a good draft position to upgrade its faltering line. You fix a problem by addressing it. This must be a priority this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 16 hours ago, thebandit27 said: Yodny is a MAN! I think he's a walk-in starter for sure, but your prediction would shock me Fortune favours the brave, my friend. I think Yodny is the total package. I expect that he'll test really well, especially in the 3-cone. Add into the equation that he's technically, athletically and conceptually head and shoulders above Greg Little and the NFL has proven time and again that they'll overthink Jonah because of his length, I think he stands a real chance of being OT1 come April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 On 1/8/2019 at 8:48 AM, Blokestradamus said: Fortune favours the brave, my friend. I think Yodny is the total package. I expect that he'll test really well, especially in the 3-cone. Add into the equation that he's technically, athletically and conceptually head and shoulders above Greg Little and the NFL has proven time and again that they'll overthink Jonah because of his length, I think he stands a real chance of being OT1 come April. Then let's hope he is there at #9. Good to hear from you, btw. The other day I was just wondering what happened to you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 WR- N’Keal Harry- Ari. St. 2 OL- Michael Deiter- Wisc. 3 TE- TJ Hockenson- Iowa 4 DE- Austin Bryant-Clem 4 WR- Paris Campbell-Ohio St. 5 LB- Khalil Hodge-Buf 5 RB- Trayveon Williams Tex A&M 6 DT- I. Sopoaga- 7 CB- Mark Fields- Clem 7 RB-LJ Scott- Mich. St. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, Dkollidas said: 1 WR- N’Keal Harry- Ari. St. 2 OL- Michael Deiter- Wisc. 3 TE- TJ Hockenson- Iowa 4 DE- Austin Bryant-Clem 4 WR- Paris Campbell-Ohio St. 5 LB- Khalil Hodge-Buf 5 RB- Trayveon Williams Tex A&M 6 DT- I. Sopoaga- 7 CB- Mark Fields- Clem 7 RB-LJ Scott- Mich. St. Sorry but..........YUCK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 On 1/7/2019 at 9:13 AM, Dkollidas said: i just don’t think they’ll want to use #9 to select the 5th best defensive lineman in this class. I would think they’d believe that the guy they select at #9 will be closer in value to the guys selected at the end of Round 1 or start of Round 2, than to the players selected ahead of them. I never understand this logic. If the 5th best DL is rated higher than the best punter, then I pick the DL. Yes this is an extreme example to prove the point but pick the best player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: I never understand this logic. If the 5th best DL is rated higher than the best punter, then I pick the DL. Yes this is an extreme example to prove the point but pick the best player. I hear you. But if they feel the #1 WR is close to the #5 DL, I’d take the #1 WR. He’s your top rated guy of the entire class, you have your choice of everyone at the position. Get a hit on it. And I think this example is very realistic in regards to this year’s draft because right now there’s so many intriguing receivers, but no clear cut ranking. Metcalf, Harry, M. Brown, AJ Brown, Harmon, Ridley. There’s a lot of talent, and while it might not be as highly praised as the D-Linemen, I’d rather take my shot at the guy that I like the most that would be a fit with my QB, rather than a DL that might have the best numbers and measurable s but might not be a fit for my staff, or my scheme, or my locker room. Edited January 13, 2019 by Dkollidas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 i've been made to sound like an idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 On January 7, 2019 at 3:57 PM, thebandit27 said: Yodny is a MAN! I think he's a walk-in starter for sure, but your prediction would shock me He certainly looks like a NFL OT. He is huge and looks to be pretty athletic for his size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 1/12/2019 at 10:02 PM, Dr. Who said: Then let's hope he is there at #9. Good to hear from you, btw. The other day I was just wondering what happened to you. I'd be over the moon to get him. I'd expect him to be a day 1 starter at LT and you can work out where Dion fits into the equation in TC. I plan to be a little more active now that the season is over. Just needed some time to figure out my mental health. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 36 minutes ago, Blokestradamus said: I'd be over the moon to get him. I'd expect him to be a day 1 starter at LT and you can work out where Dion fits into the equation in TC. I plan to be a little more active now that the season is over. Just needed some time to figure out my mental health. Enjoy your insights regarding potential draft picks. I pray you are doing well. I have suffered from dysthymia for decades, so I have compassion for and empathize with folks who struggle. I keep hearing that Dawkins would likely be a superlative LG. I'd like to get D. Williams for RT and Paradis or Morse, depending on scheme, for C. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 8 hours ago, Blokestradamus said: I'd be over the moon to get him. I'd expect him to be a day 1 starter at LT and you can work out where Dion fits into the equation in TC. I plan to be a little more active now that the season is over. Just needed some time to figure out my mental health. I just want you to know that I wish you nothing but the best from a health standpoint. I consider you to be one of the premier posters here when commenting on evaluating college prospects and pro players. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 8 hours ago, JohnC said: I just want you to know that I wish you nothing but the best from a health standpoint. I consider you to be one of the premier posters here when commenting on evaluating college prospects and pro players. 16 hours ago, Dr. Who said: Enjoy your insights regarding potential draft picks. I pray you are doing well. I have suffered from dysthymia for decades, so I have compassion for and empathize with folks who struggle. I keep hearing that Dawkins would likely be a superlative LG. I'd like to get D. Williams for RT and Paradis or Morse, depending on scheme, for C. I appreciate the kind words, fellas. This community really has been good to me, especially over the last year or so, as I've tackled my issues. I don't want to derail the thread but the support really has helped me and it means the world to me. Back to football before I start crying - I really could go for Cajuste/Dawkins/Paradis at LT/LG/C. I'm a believer that attitude means something on the OL and those guys are all brute force finishers. If Paradis is healthy enough after 2 hip surgeries and a broken leg, he's my #1 free agent OL. He's a joy to watch and so technically sound. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Blokestradamus said: I appreciate the kind words, fellas. This community really has been good to me, especially over the last year or so, as I've tackled my issues. I don't want to derail the thread but the support really has helped me and it means the world to me. Back to football before I start crying - I really could go for Cajuste/Dawkins/Paradis at LT/LG/C. I'm a believer that attitude means something on the OL and those guys are all brute force finishers. If Paradis is healthy enough after 2 hip surgeries and a broken leg, he's my #1 free agent OL. He's a joy to watch and so technically sound. I would love to at least build one dominant side on the oline this offseason. I could absolutely live with that if the other side was just average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 4 hours ago, Blokestradamus said: I appreciate the kind words, fellas. This community really has been good to me, especially over the last year or so, as I've tackled my issues. I don't want to derail the thread but the support really has helped me and it means the world to me. Back to football before I start crying - I really could go for Cajuste/Dawkins/Paradis at LT/LG/C. I'm a believer that attitude means something on the OL and those guys are all brute force finishers. If Paradis is healthy enough after 2 hip surgeries and a broken leg, he's my #1 free agent OL. He's a joy to watch and so technically sound. What happened to RG John Miller? I thought he was going to be a mainstay player and play a position that we didn't have to worry about for a long time. Was it coaching, changing of schemes or just over-rating a player. And what are the prospects of Teller starting and being effective? If Miller can be salvaged and Teller slotted in then the overhaul of the line would be less of a task, assuming a tackle such as Cajuste or Jonah Williams can be added to the mix. I also contend that getting a tough between the tackle runner through free agency or the draft should be a priority. Recently a NFL analyst stated on the radio that the most important coaching job on a team was the OL coach. I believe that We have to get this staffing position right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 13 hours ago, JohnC said: I just want you to know that I wish you nothing but the best from a health standpoint. I consider you to be one of the premier posters here when commenting on evaluating college prospects and pro players. Ditto! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Chris Trapasso of CBS Sports was on WGR talking about prospects. It is a 15 min. segment. He was talking about prospects who would be appealing to Buffalo. https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/01-15-chris-trapasso-cbs-sports-howard-and-jeremy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 20 hours ago, JohnC said: What happened to RG John Miller? I thought he was going to be a mainstay player and play a position that we didn't have to worry about for a long time. Was it coaching, changing of schemes or just over-rating a player. And what are the prospects of Teller starting and being effective? If Miller can be salvaged and Teller slotted in then the overhaul of the line would be less of a task, assuming a tackle such as Cajuste or Jonah Williams can be added to the mix. I also contend that getting a tough between the tackle runner through free agency or the draft should be a priority. Recently a NFL analyst stated on the radio that the most important coaching job on a team was the OL coach. I believe that We have to get this staffing position right. Coaching and continuity on the O-line are huge. Having the entire left side of the line and the guy making the protection adjustments changed in one offseason is less than ideal. I can't really fault the front office for it as the deal for Cordy was a good one and the others were enforced by injury and batshit crazy. The OL needs an overhaul and a true identity, the current group is a mismatched bunch that doesn't seem to mesh well together. As far as Miller goes, I believe he's got enough about him to be a low-end starter in the league. I know PFF grades for OL aren't the Holy Grail but he was their most improved Year 2 player in 2016. John is a straight-up power guard and he was a victim of the change to Dennison/Castillo being more schooled in zone principles. We can forget that these guys are human and he's played like a guy that's not confident in himself recently. He's still just 25 years old and I think a change of scenery would be best for him. With Teller, I've been a fan of his for a while and was delighted that we picked him up. I see no harm in giving him 16 games next year to see how much he can develop. I don't think young OL can develop on the bench and his rookie reps will serve him well for the future. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Agree with Blokes about Cajuste. Not sure he goes top 5 but he definitely goes top 10 and is going to be the first offensive lineman taken. We have seen this before - the early offseason "consensus" top LT is a technician who probably has hit his ceiling already (Jonah) - they almost always get leapfrogged by an athletic riser who tests well at the combine and has room to grow into the position. That's Cajuste - his ceiling is higher than any other offensive lineman in the class. And it wouldn't shock me at all if the Bills are hoping he falls to 9 - he'd be the pick in a heartbeat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Agree with Blokes about Cajuste. Not sure he goes top 5 but he definitely goes top 10 and is going to be the first offensive lineman taken. We have seen this before - the early offseason "consensus" top LT is a technician who probably has hit his ceiling already (Jonah) - they almost always get leapfrogged by an athletic riser who tests well at the combine and has room to grow into the position. That's Cajuste - his ceiling is higher than any other offensive lineman in the class. And it wouldn't shock me at all if the Bills are hoping he falls to 9 - he'd be the pick in a heartbeat. What's your thoughts on Cody Ford from Oklahoma? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 4 hours ago, the skycap said: What's your thoughts on Cody Ford from Oklahoma? I was going to ask the same thing... I think he is going to be a riser through the combine/draft process... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Didn't see it posted yet, but Mel Kiper has released his first mock of the year: http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2019/insider/story/_/id/25773312/2019-nfl-mock-draft-mel-kiper-first-round-pick-predictions-rankings-draft-order Nick Bosa Josh Allen Quinnen Williams - Jets Greedy Williams Jonah Williams Dwayne Haskins Cody Ford Devin White Rashan Gary - "Could the Bills get their Kyle Williams replacement here? At his peak, the 6-foot-6, 283-pound Gary is a menace who makes offensive linemen look foolish, but you'd like to see him do it with more regularity. Gary could play end or nose guard in a 3-4 defense or tackle in a 4-3. Buffalo could look at centers or guards here; improving the interior of the offensive line should be a priority." DeAndre Baker Jawaan Taylor Clelin Ferrell Kyler Murray - Dolphins Ed Oliver Jachai Polite Brian Burns Jeffery Simmons Greg Little TJ Hockenson Devin Bush Oshane Ximines AJ Brown Byron Murphy Marquise Brown Montez Sweat Dexter Lawrence Irv Smith Jr. Christian Wilkins Daniel Jones - Patriots Dre'Mont Jones Deionte Thompson Parris Campbell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 (edited) Disclaimer: I claim no expertise as a scout, but I’ve been watching football for 50 years and I am an avid draft fan. I watched some some game tapes of Iowa TE Noah Fant and I don’t think that I see a first round prospect there. He was consistently one of the last players moving at the snap - in one instance he was so late moving that it caused an INT. We know that he isn’t much of a blocker and , in the games that I watched, he didn’t show a lot of effort and polish in his routes. He is definitely an outstanding athlete, but I didn’t see it translate to being open and making many plays. For those that watch much more than a few games, what do you see and why is he considered to be a potential first round pick? Edited January 19, 2019 by OldTimer1960 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Just did a Fanspeak mock... my first of the year..... usual rules I apply to myself when doing this..... never reach more than three spots down the board (used Matt Miller's Big Board). Wouldn't hate this outcome: 9: R1P9 OT JONAH WILLIAMS - ALABAMA 41: R2P9 WR DK METCALF - OLE MISS 71: R3P7 EDGE CHASE WINOVICH - MICHIGAN 113: R4P11 CB SAIVION SMITH - ALABAMA 131: R4P29 RB DEXTER WILLIAMS - NOTRE DAME 149: R5P10 LB TE'VON CONEY - NOTRE DAME 159: R5P20 WR PRESTON WILLIAMS - COLORADO ST 184: R6P9 TE JOSH OLIVER - SAN JOSE STATE 224: R7P8 EDGE JORDAN BRAILFORD - OKLAHOMA STATE 230: R7P14 OT MITCH HYATT - CLEMSON 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) On 1/19/2019 at 5:17 PM, OldTimer1960 said: Disclaimer: I claim no expertise as a scout, but I’ve been watching football for 50 years and I am an avid draft fan. I watched some some game tapes of Iowa TE Noah Fant and I don’t think that I see a first round prospect there. He was consistently one of the last players moving at the snap - in one instance he was so late moving that it caused an INT. We know that he isn’t much of a blocker and , in the games that I watched, he didn’t show a lot of effort and polish in his routes. He is definitely an outstanding athlete, but I didn’t see it translate to being open and making many plays. For those that watch much more than a few games, what do you see and why is he considered to be a potential first round pick? I don't think he is a locker room cancer guy, but the Iowa coaching staff are serious about how their TE's need to play. The rap on Fant was that he was taking a lot of plays off when they were not going his way, no desire to improve his blocking, and inconsistent hands. That is why Hockenson was their go-to TE down the stretch. Fant is incredibly athletic, but Hockenson is the more NFL-ready TE IMO. As with all things time will tell. The fact that the Iowa program has produced Kittle (breaking NFL receiving records), and now 2 more TE's that will both go in this draft - they are certainly doing something right there scouting and coaching these guys up. Edited January 27, 2019 by WideNine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 On 1/25/2019 at 10:02 AM, GunnerBill said: Just did a Fanspeak mock... my first of the year..... usual rules I apply to myself when doing this..... never reach more than three spots down the board (used Matt Miller's Big Board). Wouldn't hate this outcome: 9: R1P9 OT JONAH WILLIAMS - ALABAMA 41: R2P9 WR DK METCALF - OLE MISS 71: R3P7 EDGE CHASE WINOVICH - MICHIGAN 113: R4P11 CB SAIVION SMITH - ALABAMA 131: R4P29 RB DEXTER WILLIAMS - NOTRE DAME 149: R5P10 LB TE'VON CONEY - NOTRE DAME 159: R5P20 WR PRESTON WILLIAMS - COLORADO ST 184: R6P9 TE JOSH OLIVER - SAN JOSE STATE 224: R7P8 EDGE JORDAN BRAILFORD - OKLAHOMA STATE 230: R7P14 OT MITCH HYATT - CLEMSON You make me and NYCBill happy with your first pick. I would love to have Winovich but don't see him lasting to the third round. I see him more of a second round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 On 1/25/2019 at 10:02 AM, GunnerBill said: Just did a Fanspeak mock... my first of the year..... usual rules I apply to myself when doing this..... never reach more than three spots down the board (used Matt Miller's Big Board). Wouldn't hate this outcome: 9: R1P9 OT JONAH WILLIAMS - ALABAMA 41: R2P9 WR DK METCALF - OLE MISS 71: R3P7 EDGE CHASE WINOVICH - MICHIGAN 113: R4P11 CB SAIVION SMITH - ALABAMA 131: R4P29 RB DEXTER WILLIAMS - NOTRE DAME 149: R5P10 LB TE'VON CONEY - NOTRE DAME 159: R5P20 WR PRESTON WILLIAMS - COLORADO ST 184: R6P9 TE JOSH OLIVER - SAN JOSE STATE 224: R7P8 EDGE JORDAN BRAILFORD - OKLAHOMA STATE 230: R7P14 OT MITCH HYATT - CLEMSON LOVE your 1st 3 picks. Am a bit worried about Savion Smith’ s poor performance in the title game, and the injury. IMHO, Dexter Williams seems a bit on the small side for RB. JMO. Does Coney have a marijuana issue? Also, Winovich needs a haircut. ? I’d be just fine with the rest of your picks. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 27 minutes ago, The Senator said: LOVE your 1st 3 picks. Am a bit worried about Savion Smith’ s poor performance in the title game, and the injury. IMHO, Dexter Williams seems a bit on the small side for RB. JMO. Does Coney have a marijuana issue? Also, Winovich needs a haircut. ? I’d be just fine with the rest of your picks. . Again that was on the basis that I was accepting Matt Miller's big board as my own and saying no reaches more than 3 spots down the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 10:18 AM, DCOrange said: Didn't see it posted yet, but Mel Kiper has released his first mock of the year: http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2019/insider/story/_/id/25773312/2019-nfl-mock-draft-mel-kiper-first-round-pick-predictions-rankings-draft-order Nick Bosa Josh Allen Quinnen Williams - Jets Greedy Williams Jonah Williams Dwayne Haskins Cody Ford Devin White Rashan Gary - "Could the Bills get their Kyle Williams replacement here? At his peak, the 6-foot-6, 283-pound Gary is a menace who makes offensive linemen look foolish, but you'd like to see him do it with more regularity. Gary could play end or nose guard in a 3-4 defense or tackle in a 4-3. Buffalo could look at centers or guards here; improving the interior of the offensive line should be a priority." DeAndre Baker Jawaan Taylor Clelin Ferrell Kyler Murray - Dolphins Ed Oliver Jachai Polite Brian Burns Jeffery Simmons Greg Little TJ Hockenson Devin Bush Oshane Ximines AJ Brown Byron Murphy Marquise Brown Montez Sweat Dexter Lawrence Irv Smith Jr. Christian Wilkins Daniel Jones - Patriots Dre'Mont Jones Deionte Thompson Parris Campbell Hmmmm....Oliver going 14th? The jacket incident aside, he won't drop that far. Has Hockenson at 19? I and a few others here really like Hock, but I hope other teams (NE) do not grade him this high or he will likely never see a Bills uniform. Shush Kiper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 I went all offense with the first 5 picks and kinda liked it: 9: R1P9 OT JONAH WILLIAMS ALABAMA 41: R2P9 TE NOAH FANT IOWA 71: R3P7 WR RILEY RIDLEY GEORGIA 113: R4P11 C ROSS PIERSCHBACHER ALABAMA 131: R4P29 G DRU SAMIA OKLAHOMA 149: R5P10 EDGE JALEN JELKS OREGON 159: R5P20 DL MARQUISE COPELAND CINCINNATI 184: R6P9 LB KENDALL JOSEPH CLEMSON 224: R7P8 RB BRYCE LOVE STANFORD 230: R7P14 CB JAMEL DEAN AUBURN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabooo87 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Ill take 2 trade.downs in a no talent year..load up..y not take..johnah williams.or ford(g)..at 1...dillard(,rtkl)or erick mccoy.(c) at 2...ogbuihay.(de).at 3...chandler jones clone..then risner(..otkl.)..my point is wr..lbk..is of no consequence..this year..talent has to come later in f.agency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 On 1/27/2019 at 9:37 AM, The Senator said: Winovich needs a haircut. ? As long as he doesn't go to Rob Ryan's barber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 6:47 PM, thunderingsquid said: I went all offense with the first 5 picks and kinda liked it: 9: R1P9 OT JONAH WILLIAMS ALABAMA 41: R2P9 TE NOAH FANT IOWA 71: R3P7 WR RILEY RIDLEY GEORGIA 113: R4P11 C ROSS PIERSCHBACHER ALABAMA 131: R4P29 G DRU SAMIA OKLAHOMA 149: R5P10 EDGE JALEN JELKS OREGON 159: R5P20 DL MARQUISE COPELAND CINCINNATI 184: R6P9 LB KENDALL JOSEPH CLEMSON 224: R7P8 RB BRYCE LOVE STANFORD 230: R7P14 CB JAMEL DEAN AUBURN This is who YOU'D pick, right? Rather than who you think the BILLS will pick? Because recent history shows a mid-to-late round leaning towards underappreciated and/or smaller school guys. You're rocking all major school/conference prospects here. Also, you see Fant's athleticism far outweighing the quiet criticisms about his effort/grit, yes? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: This is who YOU'D pick, right? Rather than who you think the BILLS will pick? Because recent history shows a mid-to-late round leaning towards underappreciated and/or smaller school guys. You're rocking all major school/conference prospects here. Also, you see Fant's athleticism far outweighing the quiet criticisms about his effort/grit, yes? Absolutely. With Fanspeak s help. Edited February 3, 2019 by thunderingsquid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) This whole TJ Hockenson as a top 10 pick thing is some kind of weird way of apologising to George Kittle and Iowa for not ranking him higher, right? I finally got to give him a good looking at and I expected this amazing fireworks display. Instead, it was one man holding a sparkler in the rain. Not entirely sure he's even the best TE on the Iowa roster, let alone in the class. There's flashes in the passing game that help me see why some might be tempted by him. Occasionally, he'll sink his hips and really explode out of his break. Other times, he seems to just slowly power down and go through the motions. I think his blocking still needs some work but his best reps in the run game are already NFL standard. I appreciate the enthusiasm but charging head down at blocks in the NFL will go really badly (even worse than him getting ragdolled vs Mississippi St). I do have some doubts about his grip strength as well, teams really attack the ball when he's a runner and I assume that's not some kind of shared delusion. I'm very much against tight ends in the 1st round as a matter of principle but I'd make the exception for someone special. Hockenson ain't special. Edited February 8, 2019 by Blokestradamus 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 I’m against TEs on the first two days. They take too long to develop, are the hardest position to predict (outside of QB), take more hits than WRs. Sure, it would be great having a good tight end but it’s a complimentary piece. The Bills would be better off taking a WR early if they are worried about getting weapons for Allen. Easier to predict, get hit less, produce quicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 On 1/15/2019 at 9:38 AM, JohnC said: What happened to RG John Miller? I thought he was going to be a mainstay player and play a position that we didn't have to worry about for a long time. Was it coaching, changing of schemes or just over-rating a player. And what are the prospects of Teller starting and being effective? If Miller can be salvaged and Teller slotted in then the overhaul of the line would be less of a task, assuming a tackle such as Cajuste or Jonah Williams can be added to the mix. I also contend that getting a tough between the tackle runner through free agency or the draft should be a priority. Recently a NFL analyst stated on the radio that the most important coaching job on a team was the OL coach. I believe that We have to get this staffing position right. ...I'm probably wrong but didn't PFT or PFF rate him as #2 at some point?......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 52 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...I'm probably wrong but didn't PFT or PFF rate him as #2 at some point?......... I simply don't know about the rankings from PFT or any other rating service. It just seems to me that nothing that I have read or heard about him indicates that he has secured his guard position. If he remained on the roster and solidified his guard spot that would alleviate the necessity for nearly completely remaking the line. It just seems that this staff is not enamored with him. Maybe with a new OL and a different blocking scheme he might be in a better positions to succeed? As it stands I'm not sure he will be back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 10 hours ago, JohnC said: I simply don't know about the rankings from PFT or any other rating service. It just seems to me that nothing that I have read or heard about him indicates that he has secured his guard position. If he remained on the roster and solidified his guard spot that would alleviate the necessity for nearly completely remaking the line. It just seems that this staff is not enamored with him. Maybe with a new OL and a different blocking scheme he might be in a better positions to succeed? As it stands I'm not sure he will be back. ...read an article highlighting the top 10 OL UFA's and he was at #9...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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