Deep2Moulds46 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I know, we are all supposed to be mad or something.... And I know...what sources does Chris Simms have.. But for those willing to be open minded, I encourage you to watch the first couple minutes of this video when they recap round 1. And if you really want to feel good, go back and watch round 1 when they gush over both Bills picks and say the Bills killed the draft. And some scrubs named Mayock, Kiper, McShay and Matt Miller (in the video above) all ranked Josh Allen as a top 10 player and a top 2 QB. But what do they know, right? 8 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 So it is true that the Cards were the other team that made the Bucs the offer for 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 This might make them feel better. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeIGiveADarn Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: This might make them feel better. Wait... Josh Allen has thrown an interception?... Why weren't we told!?! 1 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: This might make them feel better. And this might make them feel worse. 7 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: This might make them feel better. Naptime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep2Moulds46 Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: This might make them feel better. Great point. Rosen definitely never threw any ints (Had more than Allen in College). He also never lost a game and managed to cure cancer in his down time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 ...as were many Bills fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 26 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: This might make them feel better. I've never hit a woman before... but you making it very enticing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 35 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: This might make them feel better. Why don't you go back to the future and change that... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 41 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: So it is true that the Cards were the other team that made the Bucs the offer for 7. Schefter reported that last night I believe. They were in a bidding war for Allen which explains why the Bills had to give up both 2nd's. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 39 minutes ago, Peace Frog said: And this might make them feel worse. I would feel better if he stepped up in the massive pocket he had and threw that with both feet on the ground. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: I would feel better if he stepped up in the massive pocket he had and threw that with both feet on the ground. He hit the receiver in stride, 65 yards down field, without good mechanics and while falling backward. Geez Louise. And you're worried about style points? I'm not sure he's going to be a good draft pick but it will be fun to watch. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 47 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: This might make them feel better. They will go right back to feeling heart broken when they see the play in this game where Allen on a scramble, throws a strike 42-yard strike downfield just before losing real estate and heading out of bounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) Mayock:. "Josh Allen is the pick if Arizona trades up". Edited April 28, 2018 by PIZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 20 minutes ago, Utah John said: He hit the receiver in stride, 65 yards down field, without good mechanics and while falling backward. Geez Louise. And you're worried about style points? I'm not sure he's going to be a good draft pick but it will be fun to watch. A guy who can't do it right is going to fail in the NFL. So many guys with plus arm strength have made those types of throws in college, but if they don't have any pocket awareness in the NFL, then they won't last. This is one of those many things that Josh Allen can improve on at the next level. We all hope he does. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 https://cardswire.usatoday.com/2018/04/09/cardinals-reportedly-very-high-on-qb-josh-allen-will-bring-prospect-in-for-visit/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Cardinals were probably the team that released those tweets the night before and expected to be the ones to get Allen after the freefall. They're stuck with the jackass, instead 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said: Cardinals were probably the team that released those tweets the night before and expected to be the ones to get Allen after the freefall. They're stuck with the jackass, instead I agree they had the reporter leak the tweets 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 48 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Schefter reported that last night I believe. They were in a bidding war for Allen which explains why the Bills had to give up both 2nd's. That would explain the top dollar we paid for the trade. Which is fine. The most important part of "the process" is to determine who they guy is. IF you can do that, then you can over pay. The two seconds weren't a crazy over pay, but, more than market value to move up 5 spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: This might make them feel better. I love how many Bills fans around here can't distinguish between "want" and "expect". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, Manther said: That would explain the top dollar we paid for the trade. Which is fine. The most important part of "the process" is to determine who they guy is. IF you can do that, then you can over pay. The two seconds weren't a crazy over pay, but, more than market value to move up 5 spots. Beane hinted on WGR that the trade with the Broncos they had set up involved giving up a 1st round pick so it could've been worse. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Getty Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 There now everyone can shut up about him being there at 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 33 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Beane hinted on WGR that the trade with the Broncos they had set up involved giving up a 1st round pick so it could've been worse. Agreed, in the New Era we catch breaks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said: I would feel better if he stepped up in the massive pocket he had and threw that with both feet on the ground. The guy will need to transform into a new person if he is to be successful in the NFL. He does so many things wrong. He could get away with that at Wyoming where you have huge talent mismatches all over the field. It's not like that in the NFL, where everyone around you is a super talent. That's when the Allen way of doing things will kill his career. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 What time in that 4 hr video? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said: I would feel better if he stepped up in the massive pocket he had and threw that with both feet on the ground. You need help, the guy chucks the ball on his back foot 50+ yards on stride and your complaining? 2 hours ago, Doc Brown said: This might make them feel better. And so do you.. you do no he threw for less INT then Rosen right? seek life else where Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Peace Frog said: And this might make them feel worse. Man that arm is sick ! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: And so do you.. you do no he threw for less INT then Rosen right? seek life else where Yes. Rosen has a slightly higher touchdown to interception ratio though, but it's throws like these that scare me. Allen trusts his arm strength too much and it's hard to break habits no matter how well coached up he is. He has so many things he needs to clean up (footwork, decision making, anticipation, pre-snap adjustments) in order to be an effective NFL starter. That's a lot to ask of a player. I'm rooting for him, but I'm not holding my breath that he'll pan out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Yes. Rosen has a slightly higher touchdown to interception ratio though, but it's throws like these that scare me. Allen trusts his arm strength too much and it's hard to break habits no matter how well coached up he is. He has so many things he needs to clean up (footwork, decision making, anticipation, pre-snap adjustments) in order to be an effective NFL starter. That's a lot to ask of a player. I'm rooting for him, but I'm not holding my breath that he'll pan out. leg/footwork is so easy to teach its not even funny. I think your nitpicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Fadingpain said: The guy will need to transform into a new person if he is to be successful in the NFL. He does so many things wrong. He could get away with that at Wyoming where you have huge talent mismatches all over the field. It's not like that in the NFL, where everyone around you is a super talent. That's when the Allen way of doing things will kill his career. From what I've read, Allen's WRs sucked. and his OL sucked. He was the only adult on the field in the passing game. so all things , other than him, being equal, he is pretty special player. trust the process. McBeanes know what they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Fadingpain said: The guy will need to transform into a new person if he is to be successful in the NFL. He does so many things wrong. He could get away with that at Wyoming where you have huge talent mismatches all over the field. It's not like that in the NFL, where everyone around you is a super talent. That's when the Allen way of doing things will kill his career. Flip side of that is Allen was the only NFL talent level player on his team. Wyoming had below average line play and wr play. When Wyoming went against power conference teams Allen tried to do all he could to win. I have no idea if Allen will be a good QB or not. I do know he has a ceiling much higher than any QB the Bills have had since Kelly. I would rather give him a chance since he is now the QB for the team I love. I don’t need to pretend to be an NFL scout or coach who spoke with the player and his coaches and his team mates etc. I will cheer him on and root for him. His success will add to my happiness. Why the heck wouldn’t I want to see him do well? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Utah John said: He hit the receiver in stride, 65 yards down field, without good mechanics and while falling backward. Geez Louise. And you're worried about style points? I'm not sure he's going to be a good draft pick but it will be fun to watch. That throw was not from the Wyoming 40 it was the offensive 40 look at the chevrons. Like Bull said why was he rolling out and back pedaling out of a clean pocket? Then not setting and throwing off his back foot will lead to disaster in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Last year, Allen was throwing to 2 sophomores and 3 freshmen. Not a single Wyoming running back, receiver or tight end was a starter the previous year. Let's see what he can do with a strong supporting cast before running him out of town? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Golden Goat said: Last year, Allen was throwing to 2 sophomores and 3 freshmen. Not a single Wyoming running back, receiver or tight end was a starter the previous year. Let's see what he can do with a strong supporting cast before running him out of town? I am not running him out of town. I have said all along that every top QB in this class is flawed. Some in more than one way.at least this guy is smart with a big arm, large hands and big healthy body. Now if they can teach him to set his feet it might fix his accuracy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: I am not running him out of town. I have said all along that every top QB in this class is flawed. Some in more than one way.at least this guy is smart with a big arm, large hands and big healthy body. Now if they can teach him to set his feet it might fix his accuracy. Oh, I wasn't singling you out. And you're right about there not being a consensus #1 QB in this draft. It's subjective, and there are valid knocks on all of them. I'm just glad we took our shot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Golden Goat said: Oh, I wasn't singling you out. And you're right about there not being a consensus #1 QB in this draft. It's subjective, and there are valid knocks on all of them. I'm just glad we took our shot. What I am glad about is they got the LB we need as well as a project QB. Could you imagine paying the G-Men their ransom and walking away with one guy(QB) that won't see the field in 2018(unless there is an injury) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 19 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: I am not running him out of town. I have said all along that every top QB in this class is flawed. Some in more than one way.at least this guy is smart with a big arm, large hands and big healthy body. Now if they can teach him to set his feet it might fix his accuracy. You know he’s been working with Palmer in the offseason.. supposedly he got the footwork issue resolved. I’ll take the wait and see approach. Kid was never a polished prospect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Probably explains why we had to give up that second 2nd rounder. Wonder if this means rosen also thinks the cards made a mistake then since they were trying to get allen first 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Yes. Rosen has a slightly higher touchdown to interception ratio though, but it's throws like these that scare me. Allen trusts his arm strength too much and it's hard to break habits no matter how well coached up he is. He has so many things he needs to clean up (footwork, decision making, anticipation, pre-snap adjustments) in order to be an effective NFL starter. That's a lot to ask of a player. I'm rooting for him, but I'm not holding my breath that he'll pan out. He also makes throws like these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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