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None of the 5 QB's taken in the 1st round will start this year.


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Seriously, does anyone believe that any of these guys, barring injury will win the day one starting job this year?  I sure as hell don't.

 

Which begs the question:  Why were 5 QB's taken in the first round.. LOL

 

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2 minutes ago, D521646 said:

Seriously, does anyone believe that any of these guys, barring injury will win the day one starting job this year?  I sure as hell don't.

Which begs the question:  Why were 5 QB's taken in the first round.. LOL

Tim-

 

I think they'll need to earn the job in training camp, but IMO it's very likely that Darnold and Rosen start, and that Mayfield comes in partway through the season (possibly after Hue Jackson gets fired)

 

Allen may start partway through the season, but if so it will possibly be because McCarron is struggling and the coaches are desperate, not because he's ready :(

But I'd like to be surprised

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I can't name one, but I would imagine at least two of them will start at least some games this year. 

 

If AJ wins the job but sucks, I expect we would see Allen for the last few games.

 

Same deal with Darnold or Mayfield if their teams get eliminated from the playoffs.

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I believe one, possibly two will. The rest will wait varying amounts of time depending on their development, team needs and record. It's no surprise that they were drafted this year, in round one because that's the round you need to take a QB if you want one. They are highly sought after commodities. Next years draft looks to be thin at QB, and this is not lost on GMs. 

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Nothing about the McCarron signing screamed "that's our guy" IMO.  I think all 5 are going to have a chance to win jobs early.  Every year it's "Wentz is going to sit behind Daniel" or "Winston is going to sit behind Glennon" or "Watson and Trubinsky are going to sit all year".  Then teams either realize in the preseason or quickly into the season the rookie QB is the best chance to win and the change is made.

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Darnold has to beat out veterans BW, and McGowen, I doubt it.  Mayfield will have to beat out the already anointed, TT in Cleveland, not happenin.  Allen, surprisingly might be the only one of the lot that has a chance, but even this I doubt.  AJ has been second fiddle to Dalton for 4 years, he ain't giving it up easily.

 

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2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I think they'll need to earn the job in training camp, but IMO it's very likely that Darnold and Rosen start, and that Mayfield comes in partway through the season (possibly after Hue Jackson gets fired)

 

Allen may start partway through the season, but if so it will possibly be because McCarron is struggling and the coaches are desperate, not because he's ready :(

But I'd like to be surprised

 

I mean, yeah it's possible, but we all know that TT will win them games, and their roster is no joke on paper.  If Hue Jackson continues to lose withy that roster, yeah, Hue IS the problem.  :)

 

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6 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

Mayfield by week 4 

Darnold by week 10 

Rosen as soon as Bradford gets hurt 

Allen is the wildcard 

 

 

If I am understanding you correctly you said,  "Rosen by week 2"?

 

@Gavin in Va Beach

 

Nuts...just saw yours.  good one.  everyone, please ignore mine above and move on.

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Just now, Seanbillsfan2206 said:

Maybe Darnold. Everyone else, no way

 

 

-Bradford probably won't make it through preseason without getting hurt for the season, so Rosen probably will start based on that alone lol

-Darnold most likely will be groomed by McCown, and they will throw Teddy to the wolves until he's ready.

-Mayfield and Tyrod are making about the same $$ I think, but I'm sure they will bring him in slowly.

-Every report I've seen has Allen "competing for a starting job" but I think that's not a testament to the lack of confidence people have in AJ vs confidence in Allen to be ready.

-Jackson might start at wr for them day one, jkjk.

 

I think Darnold has the least chance of starting only because of the other two on the roster.

 

8 minutes ago, D521646 said:

Seriously, does anyone believe that any of these guys, barring injury will win the day one starting job this year?  I sure as hell don't.

 

Which begs the question:  Why were 5 QB's taken in the first round.. LOL

 

Tim-

 

Starting day one has nothing to do with when they were taken in the case of a QB.

Many high QBs don't start day one, or at least they shouldn't, since it's the biggest learning curve of any position when moving from college to NFL

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8 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

Mayfield by week 4 

Darnold by week 10 

Rosen as soon as Bradford gets hurt 

Allen is the wildcard 

 

I think Darnold will start a lot earlier. And, that Jackson may start, if the Ravens are out of the Playoff hunt. Otherwise, I agree with this assessment. 

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16 minutes ago, D521646 said:

Seriously, does anyone believe that any of these guys, barring injury will win the day one starting job this year?  I sure as hell don't.

 

Which begs the question:  Why were 5 QB's taken in the first round.. LOL

 

Tim-

Social Media has created a path to destruction for teams. Money is made by listening to fans bases, pays the bills. Not saying all situations fit that bill but when has QB position become more important than the WHOLE TEAM. In Bills situation they risked a future franchise QB for 3 other players that probably could have helped now. I still believe if the Bills drafted Daniels, Chark and Dawson today we would be better off. If Bills had picked Edmunds 12 and made Tampa trade and added Esch too, Bills would be better off this year. Bills waited to 12 maybe Allen would have fallen could have taken him still did Tampa trade and still added 3 more players. This is not about Allen, the Bills now should open competition for QB starter and may the best man win. If Allen starts this year that helps Buffalo's future, top 10 picks usually don't sit!

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1 minute ago, Wayne Cubed said:

 

It’s entitely possible Allen beats out McCarron and Peterman, they aren’t exactly heavy compition.

I would be disappointed if he could not.  Push come to shove if Allen doesn't throw up on himself he beats them out.

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NO WAY Allen starts the season.....that would be a football miracle.  He will ride the pine for a few games and learn......not saying AJ is football Jesus but he certainly has some knowledge to pass on and he as one person said - "ain't giving that job up without a fight"

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4 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said:

 

It’s entitely possible Allen beats out McCarron and Peterman, they aren’t exactly heavy compition.

Lets hope now, we lost 3 other players doing what we did for Allen, he needs to hit a Gland Slam here.

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2 minutes ago, Kwai San said:

NO WAY Allen starts the season.....that would be a football miracle.  He will ride the pine for a few games and learn......not saying AJ is football Jesus but he certainly has some knowledge to pass on and he as one person said - "ain't giving that job up without a fight"

Lots of people said the same thing about Wentz his rookie year. Not calling Allen Wentz (though some have made the comparison)...but it's not impossible.

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1 minute ago, Kwai San said:

NO WAY Allen starts the season.....that would be a football miracle.  He will ride the pine for a few games and learn......not saying AJ is football Jesus but he certainly has some knowledge to pass on and he as one person said - "ain't giving that job up without a fight"

Top 10 talent should be good enough to start. Saying that means there might be setback but why do you draft a top 10 QB if he isn't going to be given the opportunity to win the job. If he doesn't win it you have to say moving up to get him was a mistake, Allen could still be good down the line but you lost out adding good players to help you this year. I am sure McDermont would not be happy with that.

Just now, No Place To Hyde said:

Lots of people said the same thing about Wentz his rookie year. Not calling Allen Wentz (though some have made the comparison)...but it's not impossible.

This needs to happen now or we will miss pick 53, 56 and 65 this year.

3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

They will all compete in camp. Rosen is the most likely to start imo, Darnold #2.  

 

Mayfield will win win the job in camp and lose the job under live fire 

Arizona needs Rosen to start.

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15 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

I can see Allen and Rosen both being starters week 1.

 

Rosen, yes - especially as Bradford could get hurt in preseason again.

 

Allen - I respect your football chops so could you say a little more about why you see that?  It's been said that if you want a rookie to start, setting up a competition between a rookie and a veteran in training camp is not the way to go because the veteran will always win it, based on superior knowledge of what he sees on D and where to go with the ball.

 

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1 minute ago, USABuffaloFan said:

Top 10 talent should be good enough to start. Saying that means there might be setback but why do you draft a top 10 QB if he isn't going to be given the opportunity to win the job. If he doesn't win it you have to say moving up to get him was a mistake, Allen could still be good down the line but you lost out adding good players to help you this year. I am sure McDermont would not be happy with that.

Who said Allen won't have the opportunity ? ( I know what Hue Jackson said about Taylor)  I agree with Jordan Palmer when he said he firmly believes ALL rookie QBs should be given a year before starting. Other things get in the way of this, and it doesn't always happen. You take QBs high in the draft because someone else will if you don't. I don't believe Allen will win the starting job initially in the eyes of the coaches . A vet QB is usually the safer play early on, and most coaches go with that. 

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None of them should.

 

I believe and hope the Bills will be smart enough to keep Allen on the bench. They’re all about “the process”, and they have McCarron & Peterman to play in front of him this year. 

 

Both Bradford and Bridgewater seem more likely than not to suffer injuries, especially playing behind their respective offensive lines. Therefore I could totally see Darnold & Rosen playing early. 

 

I could see that really hurting both their developments. Darnold simply because he’s so young, and turnover prone. Rosen because playing in front of such a weak offensive line is probably the worst thing for him and we could see him get banged up early on. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Rosen, yes - especially as Bradford could get hurt in preseason again.

 

Allen - I respect your football chops so could you say a little more about why you see that?  It's been said that if you want a rookie to start, setting up a competition between a rookie and a veteran in training camp is not the way to go because the veteran will always win it, based on superior knowledge of what he sees on D and where to go with the ball.

I think Allen is already at a pretty respectable level when it comes to pre-snap reads and recognition. Because of that, I believe his progression would benefit most from actual game experience. If he's learning from the bench instead then I'm okay with that too, but that's my take on his development process. People may tell you that he needs to work on his footwork, and I'd agree to an extent, but I'm not sure that practice reps will do much if he's not also practicing the changes in the heat of the moment against a live defense.

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26 minutes ago, D521646 said:

Darnold has to beat out veterans BW, and McGowen, I doubt it.  Mayfield will have to beat out the already anointed, TT in Cleveland, not happenin.  Allen, surprisingly might be the only one of the lot that has a chance, but even this I doubt.  AJ has been second fiddle to Dalton for 4 years, he ain't giving it up easily.

 

Tim-

I agree with this and if you don't think McCarron has a chip on his shoulder, he will after he sees the tweets Allen sent about AJ's wife.

Awkward first meeting for them both is in the cards. Wish I could be a fly on the wall with that hand shake.

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10 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Rosen, yes - especially as Bradford could get hurt in preseason again.

 

Allen - I respect your football chops so could you say a little more about why you see that?  It's been said that if you want a rookie to start, setting up a competition between a rookie and a veteran in training camp is not the way to go because the veteran will always win it, based on superior knowledge of what he sees on D and where to go with the ball.

 

Unless your name is Russell Wilson and you paid a bum like Matt Flynn in the offseason.

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