PastorMKC Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Surprisingly I'm not so upset, I thought I would be but Mayfield may just be the ointment we have been looking for all these years ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) Mayfield over Darnold and Rosen? Ward over Chubb is a catastrophe. Same old Browns Edited April 27, 2018 by DJB Title 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 The overreaction is hilarious....i think the browns did just fine....who honestly knows though 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 If you had told me a week ago the Bills would walk out of night 1 with Baker & Ward and the Browns would walk out with Allen & Edmunds, I could have found a way to believe you. That one team did it starting at 12 & 22 and the other did it staying at 1 & 4 fully sums up my thoughts on the Browns night. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Cleveland passes over Fitzpatrick and Chubb for a undersized CB... the QB pick aside, they loved what Mayfield brought in competitiveness and acuracy... that 4th selection could be one of the biggest whiffs in recent draft history, just because you need a CB doesn’t mean you pass on no brainer elite defensive propsects... Jesus Cleveland, I sure hope you were right, Elway says thank you... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Browns fans will be much happier to have Mayfield starting day 1 opposed to Tyrod. It's not all bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Passing on Chubb was the bigger surprise to me. Your pass rush could’ve been brutal. I don’t mind Mayfield since he was my #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastorMKC Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 Ward is the best CB in the draft I liked that pick a lot I wanted Chubb but he would have been more of a luxury pick with us having Garrett and Ogbah already ... Hopefully we fill a couple more needs today with 33, 35, and 64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdFront_USAF Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, PastorMKC said: Surprisingly I'm not so upset, I thought I would be but Mayfield may just be the ointment we have been looking for all these years ... I watched the first round at work with a Browns fan who was stoked by the way it panned out. He wanted Mayfield months ago, and was pretty sad he didn't think the Browns would actually go for him. I was happy seeing how excited he got about him, I hope he pans out for you guys. As for Ward over Chubb, it makes sense. Ward is a solid man cover guy, and it eliminates the need to shell out an insane amount of money to both Chubb and Garrett in a few years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastorMKC Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 I liked the Edmunds pick for you guys and of course Allen has a BIG upside I hope he works out for you guys 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I didn't get the CB pick that high...but maybe the kid is special. I've not seen him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, PastorMKC said: Surprisingly I'm not so upset, I thought I would be but Mayfield may just be the ointment we have been looking for all these years ... I think there's an argument to be made that Mayfield is the best QB in the draft. He's certainly the #1 choice based on various analytics, so if the Browns are trying to be analytics-driven and not so swayed by physical traits, they just may have picked the right guy. Interesting times! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I would of drafted Mayfield 1st overall. Clearly the best QB in this draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastorMKC Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 I'm a Buckeye fan so yes I have watched him and IMO he is special and was happy we went with him ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 21 minutes ago, ddaryl said: I would of drafted Mayfield 1st overall. Clearly the best QB in this draft. Do you think if they drafted Barkley at number one, Mayfield would have been there at number four? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 No I do not... Jets would of jumped on Mayfield IMO, or the Giants would of recieived the ransom they were looking for. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 37 minutes ago, DJB said: Mayfield over Darnold and Rosen? Ward over Chubb is a catastrophe. Same old Browns What makes you an expert? Just curious.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I would love to trade the Browns Allen for Mayfield. We whiffed big time by passing on Rosen. Its funny. Mayfield vs Allen Is the actual battle of analytics vs scouts. Analytics love Mayfield and hate Allen, so do i after watching his 2017 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 30 minutes ago, PastorMKC said: Ward is the best CB in the draft I liked that pick a lot I wanted Chubb but he would have been more of a luxury pick with us having Garrett and Ogbah already ... Hopefully we fill a couple more needs today with 33, 35, and 64 Yup; the Browns really need a CB and they are pretty well set at pass rusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 37 minutes ago, zevo said: The overreaction is hilarious....i think the browns did just fine....who honestly knows though The Mayfield pick was fine but they did reach a bit for Ward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Really thought they could have traded down for the corner. He looks like a stud tho. That said I would have gone Chubb. Don't think you can ever have too much front 7 to keep beefing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I'm glad the Browns didn't select Chubb at 4. It seems the Bills had a deal with the Broncos in place, and the Broncos decided not to go through with it because Chubb was on the board. That means the Bills take Allen at 5 , presumably for a higher price. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 If I were Cleveland I would have taken a generational talent in Barkley at 1 and then taken the best QB remaining at 4. Probably would have had the pick of 3 of them assuming Giants went Chubb. Silly Browns. They also could have taken anything to move down a few picks if they wanted the CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 14 minutes ago, foreboding said: If I were Cleveland I would have taken a generational talent in Barkley at 1 and then taken the best QB remaining at 4. Probably would have had the pick of 3 of them assuming Giants went Chubb. Silly Browns. They also could have taken anything to move down a few picks if they wanted the CB. The last time I heard generational talent it was attached to Sammy Watkins. YIKES!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 11 hours ago, Nervous Guy said: The last time I heard generational talent it was attached to Sammy Watkins. YIKES!! lol. Want to bet Barkey is the best RB in the league this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, foreboding said: lol. Want to bet Barkey is the best RB in the league this year? Lol. Let’s bet one hundred million dollars 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderGun Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 How do you not pick Chubb to lineup across from Garrett... mind boggling. Definitely Brownsed that one up good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 12 hours ago, B-Large said: Cleveland passes over Fitzpatrick and Chubb for a undersized CB... the QB pick aside, they loved what Mayfield brought in competitiveness and acuracy... that 4th selection could be one of the biggest whiffs in recent draft history, just because you need a CB doesn’t mean you pass on no brainer elite defensive propsects... Jesus Cleveland, I sure hope you were right, Elway says thank you... Ward will turn out to be a good player but one would think they could have called Denver or Indy to shop the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Yeah, I'm not ready to criticize Cleveland for their picks at 1 and 4. We have to see how it plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring it Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 My initial reaction was incredulous disbelief. The Browns could of had Barkley and at least the 3rd best Qb of the draft. It is it is still incredulous disbelief!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 50 minutes ago, foreboding said: lol. Want to bet Barkey is the best RB in the league this year? No way I see him being better than Bell next year. Bell can literally do anything at a very high level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 hour ago, ThunderGun said: How do you not pick Chubb to lineup across from Garrett... mind boggling. Definitely Brownsed that one up good. Because Ogbah is a damn good DE in his own right. Good pass rusher and great against the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essential Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I'll defend passing on Chubb. Just from a salary cap standpoint, if Garrett and Chubb were both amazing, which is a good problem to have, their contracts would be coming up one year apart and they'd both command around 16-18m per year, maybe more in 4 years? You can't invest 40m in DEs. I don't think it's ever a good idea to take the same position in the first round two years in a row, because if they both work out you can rarely afford to pay both. Kind of like Winfield and Clements, they weren't drafted two years in a row, 1999 and 2001, but we couldn't pay both ... it seems to work that way. Garrett and Chubb might have been great, but would you take Chubb knowing that you'd only have that combo for 3-4 years? Sure, there are a bunch of different ways it can go, but all I'm saying is I understand some of the logic behind passing on Chubb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 15 hours ago, rodneykm said: I didn't get the CB pick that high...but maybe the kid is special. I've not seen him play. Ward is a straight beast. He's excellent in coverage. He's not the biggest, but he willingly gets the pads poppin' too. Good on special teams as well. Not really shock he went in top 10. But Chubb with Garrett could have put QBs in the matrix. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 15 hours ago, DJB said: Mayfield over Darnold and Rosen? Ward over Chubb is a catastrophe. Same old Browns I think Mayfield is/was the best QB in the draft. I thought it was a good pick. The Ward pick blows my mind. A DE with Chubb's talent vs a CB? Mind blowing. How many CBs are worth a top 5 pick. This Century I can think of Revis. But, he went mid teens. One of the problems with drafting a CB that high is if you hit on that CB when you resign them you are looking at $15 million a year. I don't think you should use that cap space on a CB. Another is CBs typically have a shorter prime to their careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderGun Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 hour ago, cle23 said: Because Ogbah is a damn good DE in his own right. Good pass rusher and great against the run. So? Draft the ELITE pass rusher, and either deal Ogbah then use that pick to address the secondary, or better yet, just have a SICK pass rushing rotation similar to what the Giants had during their most recent SB wins, or the Broncos with Miller/Ware, except you'd have all 3 in the prime of their careers whereas Demarcus was on the tail end of his... No way you ever pass on the elite pass rusher, especially for an undersized DB... Besides, Ogbah has 9.5 career sacks, no way I'm passing on Chubb for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, B-Large said: Cleveland passes over Fitzpatrick and Chubb for a undersized CB... the QB pick aside, they loved what Mayfield brought in competitiveness and acuracy... that 4th selection could be one of the biggest whiffs in recent draft history, just because you need a CB doesn’t mean you pass on no brainer elite defensive propsects... Jesus Cleveland, I sure hope you were right, Elway says thank you... Agreed, unless I am missing something! 16 hours ago, first_and_ten said: Do you think if they drafted Barkley at number one, Mayfield would have been there at number four? I don’t think so 4 hours ago, ThunderGun said: How do you not pick Chubb to lineup across from Garrett... mind boggling. Definitely Brownsed that one up good. Agreed, mind blown! Trade down if you want Ward. But, I still think that wouldn’t have been there best move! Edited April 28, 2018 by Manther Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadbeef Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 18 hours ago, Nervous Guy said: The last time I heard generational talent it was attached to Sammy Watkins. YIKES!! Reggie Bush and Robert Gallery come to mind as once in a decade talent at RB and LT in drafts past. There are no sure things in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 6 hours ago, foreboding said: lol. Want to bet Barkey is the best RB in the league this year? Ill take that action hands down!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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