RD1, Pick 7: Josh Allen QB - Wyoming

[Real McClappy]

TBD needs a license to creates threads or a min post count.

[The Virginian]

3 minutes ago, LaradiseCowboy said:

2 Wyoming players on your active roster?! I guess that makes me a Buffalo Bills fan by proxy. A lot of respect for your organization and I hope Josh lives up to your expectations. He’s certainly been one of the best QBs in Wyoming in recent history, even considering his “poor” comp %. 

 

I wouldn’t put much weight into that, there are a several factors that lead into that. You got yourself a hell of a player!!

 

Laradise!  Ditto on your comments.  I've been posting material over here in the hopes that the Bills faithful come to embrace Josh.  We know what Josh meant to the Wyoming Cowboys and soon I hope the Bills Mafia will come to appreciate what he means for the Bills.

[rafter]

Don't make me turn this bus around.

[1ManRaid]

19 minutes ago, Rebel101 said:

How can you say why was rosen taken 4th when Tom Brady went in the 6th round and JaMarcus Russel went first overall !@#$ does it matter who went where

Copy you? I just opened this account like 2 hours ago dude

Plenty of top QBs went in the top 10 as well, what is your point?

 

ANSWER THE DAMNED QUESTION, who were your top 7 QBs over Allen?

 

Quit being a whiny, petulant little B word.

[Rebel101]

6 minutes ago, Bill_with_it said:

You have zero courage to hide behind a computer,

with a different screen name, and a) behave in a juvenile manner, and b) talk bs about the staff.  Stop being afraid and log in with your primary account and post this thread. Its not a coincidence that a ton of these “new” users showed up when they are dissatisfied and angry that the person they wanted wasnt drafted by the bills. SAD!!!

What different screen name the !@#$ you talking bout 401 Mediterranean ave atlantic city nj 08401 apt 305 come tell me im scared wtf 

[Kaenon]

2 hours ago, Rebel101 said:

We gave away an opportunity to build a deep solid roster and to give away so much for a QB who I believe was the 7th or 8th rated QB in this draft was a huge mistake. The trade up for Edmunds would have been a great move if we didnt already give away both 2nds for Allen. I would have preferred us to stay put and still would have probably been able to get Allen but I'd rather have had Rosen. Hands down the best passer in this draft. But i would have wanted us to use all the picks to build a savage squad and gave away the farm next year for a QB and gave mccarron a chance to prove himself n just to build a team that was a QB away from greatness. I hope Allen develops into a Super Bowl QB but if he doesnt this draft will go down as a huge franchise failure and will set us back for years compared to what we could have done with the arsenal of picks we had

Who you believe was the 7th or 8th QB?

 

Now I know not to read this garbage ever again, I've read all I need to know. 

[Rebel101]

1 minute ago, 1ManRaid said:

Plenty of top QBs went in the top 10 as well, what is your point?

 

ANSWER THE DAMNED QUESTION, who were your top 7 QBs over Allen?

 

Quit being a whiny, petulant little B word.

Mayfield Rosen Darnold Rudolph Jackson Luletta 

[Augie]

So, I read the first half dozen words and knew we were dealing with a “fill the holer”. So, whatever.... 

[MarkAF43]

1 minute ago, Rebel101 said:

Mayfield Rosen Darnold Rudolph Jackson Luletta 

 

Funny. Half your list was drafter AFTER Allen. 

[1ManRaid]

1 minute ago, Rebel101 said:

Mayfield Rosen Darnold Rudolph Jackson Luletta 

So far 30 teams all disagree with you twice over, smart guy.  Who was the SEVENTH QB you had rated over him?

[Heitz]

10 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

TBD needs a license to creates threads or a min post count.

 

New poster COMING IN HOT!!

[beerme1]

1 hour ago, BuffaloTX said:

This thread is terrible

 

Right on! I stopped reading this right here.

[apuszczalowski]

2 minutes ago, Augie said:

So, I read the first half dozen words and knew we were dealing with a “fill the holer”. So, whatever.... 

Dont insult the people who had the opinion that filling holes with all the picks would be a good idea instead of tradi g everything for a QB. This poster is just a troll...

[SydneyBillsFan]

1 hour ago, njbuff said:

 

Just for the record.............

 

If Allen turns out to be great, no one will give a flying **** what the Bills gave up. NO ONE.

 

Let me guess - the missing word is 'Rosen' ?

[1ManRaid]

4 minutes ago, Rebel101 said:

What different screen name the !@#$ you talking bout 401 Mediterranean ave atlantic city nj 08401 apt 305 come tell me im scared wtf 

Wow, we have a badass over here!  Put the roids away and steal one of your mommy's Ambiens and go to bed already.

[Lfod]

22 minutes ago, Rebel101 said:

Wtf you talking bout primary account this is me i just opened this **** aint nobody scared and if you need to know my name ask your mother you probably just got my DNA on your lips from the last time you kissed her !@#$ off my ****

Never said they gave a **** thats why I didnt write to them but you obviously cared enough to read quote and comment lol 

 

[LaradiseCowboy]

7 minutes ago, The Virginian said:

Laradise!  Ditto on your comments.  I've been posting material over here in the hopes that the Bills faithful come to embrace Josh.  We know what Josh meant to the Wyoming Cowboys and soon I hope the Bills Mafia will come to appreciate what he means for the Bills.

 

Your devotion to wyo isn’t appreciated enough brother (I’ve given you a hard time a couple times lol). I’ve seen your comments on forums for different teams all across America. 

 

Thanks for being respectful and for your interest!

[Bill_with_it]

5 minutes ago, Rebel101 said:

What different screen name the !@#$ you talking bout 401 Mediterranean ave atlantic city nj 08401 apt 305 come tell me im scared wtf 

What the address for? I just wished you werent hiding behind that keyboard. Btw your hot take is terrible, much like your threats...

[Fadingpain]

2 hours ago, Zebrastripes said:

Just stop.  Beane knew who he wanted and went and got him.  He didn't want to settle for someone's sloppy seconds.  

Just stop.

 

You have no idea who Beane wanted and he may have had to settle for Plan C.

 

 

[Kaenon]

It's interesting to see how much people care about what people they don't know write in response to their opinions...

 

Internet.

[Rebel101]

1 minute ago, Kaenon said:

Who you believe was the 7th or 8th QB?

 

Now I know not to read this garbage ever again, I've read all I need to know. 

Dont get me wrong Allen has the most potential absolutely but potential in the NFL coming out of the draft has proven to be harder to reach then it has to achieve. I hope Allen becomes the next great QB but I think if we were going to take a project we could have kept some of our picks and did so. And i believe we could have stayed at 12 of maybe only had to move up to maybe 9 or 10 to get Allen or Rosen. The Bills were trying to move up to 5 if the Broncos didnt have Chubb on the board still...so i just think they jumped the gun for a player that has no chance to be a day 1 starter. I believe a player shouldn't be taken in the top 15 if he isn't a day 1 starter. I dont understand why so many people have faith in Josh Allen i understand we as a fan base want a franchise QB but ive been around long enough to know forcing one in the 1st round isn't a good idea JP losman and EJ are perfect examples. Mason Rudolph is a better QB coming out of college then Allen is thats not even a debate. Allen only got drafted on potential not stats or proven performance

2 minutes ago, Bill_with_it said:

What the address for? I just wished you werent hiding behind that keyboard. Btw your hot take is terrible, much like your threats...

Cause you saying im scared the !@#$ aint no body worried about your B word ass and no one is threatening you i dont think you know what a threat is if you claim ive made one but enjoy your life stop posting on my ****

[Doc]

3 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:

Just stop.

 

You have no idea who Beane wanted and he may have had to settle for Plan C.

 

He wouldn't have traded up for plan C.

[Augie]

5 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said:

Dont insult the people who had the opinion that filling holes with all the picks would be a good idea instead of tradi g everything for a QB. This poster is just a troll...

 

It was not meant to reflect on anyone of rational thought and a differing opinion, I promise.

 

Not my style. 

[Kaenon]

1 minute ago, Rebel101 said:

Dont get me wrong Allen has the most potential absolutely but potential in the NFL coming out of the draft has proven to be harder to reach then it has to achieve. I hope Allen becomes the next great QB but I think if we were going to take a project we could have kept some of our picks and did so. And i believe we could have stayed at 12 of maybe only had to move up to maybe 9 or 10 to get Allen or Rosen. The Bills were trying to move up to 5 if the Broncos didnt have Chubb on the board still...so i just think they jumped the gun for a player that has no chance to be a day 1 starter. I believe a player shouldn't be taken in the top 15 if he isn't a day 1 starter. I dont understand why so many people have faith in Josh Allen i understand we as a fan base want a franchise QB but ive been around long enough to know forcing one in the 1st round isn't a good idea JP losman and EJ are perfect examples. Mason Rudolph is a better QB coming out of college then Allen is thats not even a debate. Allen only got drafted on potential not stats or proven performance

Rudolph is not a better QB coming out of college.

 

I've not watched any Wyoming games, but I have listened to talk radio and have read so much from well respected national pundants, sports scientists and others who have talked up Allen. I hold their opinions in higher regard and many of them believe Allen is the best QB in this draft. 

 

Not a single one said Rudolph, Jackson, Lauletta, or Rosen were the best. 

[1ManRaid]

2 minutes ago, Rebel101 said:

Dont get me wrong Allen has the most potential absolutely but potential in the NFL coming out of the draft has proven to be harder to reach then it has to achieve. I hope Allen becomes the next great QB but I think if we were going to take a project we could have kept some of our picks and did so. And i believe we could have stayed at 12 of maybe only had to move up to maybe 9 or 10 to get Allen or Rosen. The Bills were trying to move up to 5 if the Broncos didnt have Chubb on the board still...so i just think they jumped the gun for a player that has no chance to be a day 1 starter. I believe a player shouldn't be taken in the top 15 if he isn't a day 1 starter. I dont understand why so many people have faith in Josh Allen i understand we as a fan base want a franchise QB but ive been around long enough to know forcing one in the 1st round isn't a good idea JP losman and EJ are perfect examples. Mason Rudolph is a better QB coming out of college then Allen is thats not even a debate. Allen only got drafted on potential not stats or proven performance

I don't know, I think I'll take the potential of a stock Mustang over the most perfected, highly tuned lawnmower the factory had to offer.

[Bill_with_it]

3 minutes ago, Rebel101 said:

Dont get me wrong Allen has the most potential absolutely but potential in the NFL coming out of the draft has proven to be harder to reach then it has to achieve. I hope Allen becomes the next great QB but I think if we were going to take a project we could have kept some of our picks and did so. And i believe we could have stayed at 12 of maybe only had to move up to maybe 9 or 10 to get Allen or Rosen. The Bills were trying to move up to 5 if the Broncos didnt have Chubb on the board still...so i just think they jumped the gun for a player that has no chance to be a day 1 starter. I believe a player shouldn't be taken in the top 15 if he isn't a day 1 starter. I dont understand why so many people have faith in Josh Allen i understand we as a fan base want a franchise QB but ive been around long enough to know forcing one in the 1st round isn't a good idea JP losman and EJ are perfect examples. Mason Rudolph is a better QB coming out of college then Allen is thats not even a debate. Allen only got drafted on potential not stats or proven performance

Cause you saying im scared the !@#$ aint no body worried about your B word ass and no one is threatening you i dont think you know what a threat is if you claim ive made one but enjoy your life stop posting on my ****

My oh my. I see you learned grammar and the english language the same place your learned about football and poor intimidation tactics, from someone really really bad at all of them.

[LaradiseCowboy]

3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

They will love him if he's any good.

 

If he sucks he will get **** on. Basically life as an NFL QB.

 

Josh can throw from multiple platforms that no other QB in the NFL can...that I can assure you of. He’s also an intelligent player and a hard worker....AJ McCarron has his work cut out for him. Not a knock on McCarron, but few QBs in this nation could beat Josh in camp.

 

There lies the issue though. Most of us agree he needs time to develop and learn to make better reads, but there’s no doubt everyone in Buffalo will be enamored with his skill set come regular season. Maybe he’ll be ready to start in the fall, maybe he won’t. I’m definitely interested to see where this goes.

[DrDawkinstein]

37 minutes ago, The Virginian said:

Laradise!  Ditto on your comments.  I've been posting material over here in the hopes that the Bills faithful come to embrace Josh.  We know what Josh meant to the Wyoming Cowboys and soon I hope the Bills Mafia will come to appreciate what he means for the Bills.

 

8 minutes ago, LaradiseCowboy said:

 

Josh can throw from multiple platforms that no other QB in the NFL can...that I can assure you of. He’s also an intelligent player and a hard worker....AJ McCarron has his work cut out for him. Not a knock on McCarron, but few QBs in this nation could beat Josh in camp.

 

There lies the issue though. Most of us agree he needs time to develop and learn to make better reads, but there’s no doubt everyone in Buffalo will be enamored with his skill set come regular season. Maybe he’ll be ready to start in the fall, maybe he won’t. I’m definitely interested to see where this goes.

 

 

Welcome to the board!

 

So are you guys both Wyoming fans following Josh here, or what?

[Rebel101]

21 minutes ago, Kaenon said:

Rudolph is not a better QB coming out of college.

 

I've not watched any Wyoming games, but I have listened to talk radio and have read so much from well respected national pundants, sports scientists and others who have talked up Allen. I hold their opinions in higher regard and many of them believe Allen is the best QB in this draft. 

 

Not a single one said Rudolph, Jackson, Lauletta, or Rosen were the best. 

Go google josn allen vs unlv its 15 minutes of every offensive play please

Go google josn allen vs unlv its 15 minutes of all offensive plays and thats one of his better games...but i do understand i just think we wasted an opportunity to get real depth on our roster 

22 minutes ago, Bill_with_it said:

My oh my. I see you learned grammar and the english language the same place your learned about football and poor intimidation tactics, from someone really really bad at all of them.

You are a joke 

24 minutes ago, Kaenon said:

Rudolph is not a better QB coming out of college.

 

I've not watched any Wyoming games, but I have listened to talk radio and have read so much from well respected national pundants, sports scientists and others who have talked up Allen. I hold their opinions in higher regard and many of them believe Allen is the best QB in this draft. 

 

Not a single one said Rudolph, Jackson, Lauletta, or Rosen were the best. 

And Rudolph wasnt a better QB coming out of college in what sense? He is drastically one of the best QBs coming out of college the only 2 QBs that had better stats are Mayfield n Jackson n that is because Jackson ran for a lot

[GreggTX]

Assuming Allen is our franchise QB, we've drafted 3 solid starters so far.

[Rebel101]

5 minutes ago, GreggTX said:

Assuming Allen is our franchise QB, we've drafted 3 solid starters so far.

I love Edmunds and harrison i think we needed OLine instead of DLine but he is great value harrison has been compared to Kyle Williams 

[The Virginian]

8 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

 

 

Welcome to the board!

 

So are you guys both Wyoming fans following Josh here, or what?

Yes, a couple members of PokeNation.  I can't speak for Laradise, but I'm a UW alumnus and was raised in Wyoming.  I live in Virginia now, but I've been all in for the Cowboys since a young kid.  I went to my first Wyoming home game in 1955 at 18 months old.

[Heitz]

2 minutes ago, The Virginian said:

Yes, a couple members of PokeNation.  I can't speak for Laradise, but I'm a UW alumnus and was raised in Wyoming.  I live in Virginia now, but I've been all in for the Cowboys since a young kid.  I went to my first Wyoming home game in 1955 at 18 months old.

 

Love me some Jackson Hole, one of my favorite places in the world - WY gets two thumbs up in my book!!

[BigDingus]

I mean Allen alone shows they screwed up royally, but letting go of two 2nd round picks to get him? Wow....I'm still in shock.

Just read what Rodger Sherman said about the selection. That's pretty much exactly how I feel - https://goo.gl/YMBvx4
 

"I would consider any team that used a first-round pick on Josh Allen to be the biggest loser of the first round. No good NFL quarterback has ever had statistics as bad as Allen's college stats; his best-case statistical comparables include Brian Griese and Josh McCown.

 

There are just so many videos of him missing easy passes so badly. Sure, his arm is strong enough that teams should value his potential, but "extremely strong quarterback who may never learn how to throw to receivers" seems to me like a Day 3 pick, not a first-rounder. I remain baffled that he was treated like a top prospect throughout the entire draft process.

 

But the Bills didn't just draft Allen. They traded up to get him, giving up two second-round picks to move up five spots. That's a massive overpay on any draft value chart. And then the Bills also traded a third-rounder to the Ravens to move up from the 22nd pick to the 16th to select Tremaine Edmunds.

 

Trading up is the move of a team in win-now mode. The Bills did so--but they selected a quarterback whose supporters even consider him a project. That doesn't jibe. I'm so happy that the Bills got to the playoffs last year, and so confused about their future."

[njbuff]

49 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said:

 

Let me guess - the missing word is 'Rosen' ?

 

Bears a close resemblance to duck.

[4thandGoal]

2 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

I mean Allen alone shows they screwed up royally, but letting go of two 2nd round picks to get him? Wow....I'm still in shock.

Just read what Rodger Sherman said about the selection. That's pretty much exactly how I feel - https://goo.gl/YMBvx4
 

"I would consider any team that used a first-round pick on Josh Allen to be the biggest loser of the first round. No good NFL quarterback has ever had statistics as bad as Allen's college stats; his best-case statistical comparables include Brian Griese and Josh McCown.

 

There are just so many videos of him missing easy passes so badly. Sure, his arm is strong enough that teams should value his potential, but "extremely strong quarterback who may never learn how to throw to receivers" seems to me like a Day 3 pick, not a first-rounder. I remain baffled that he was treated like a top prospect throughout the entire draft process.

 

But the Bills didn't just draft Allen. They traded up to get him, giving up two second-round picks to move up five spots. That's a massive overpay on any draft value chart. And then the Bills also traded a third-rounder to the Ravens to move up from the 22nd pick to the 16th to select Tremaine Edmunds.

 

Trading up is the move of a team in win-now mode. The Bills did so--but they selected a quarterback whose supporters even consider him a project. That doesn't jibe. I'm so happy that the Bills got to the playoffs last year, and so confused about their future."

and go watch the videos with Rich Eisen and Trent Dilfer-- thats all I need to see to at least give this guy a chance.  wooohooo  3 potential starters... gotta love it

[ultimatebillsfan22]

There is alot of solid reasons to have Allen. Can play in cold weather, big, great arm, mobile. We need to give the man a chance, hopefully he impresses during training camp. Also I bet he has a big penis.

[BigDingus]

And here's another quote, this time from Gregg Rosenthal (NFL.com), that also says quite a lot about the problem with the Allen trade -

"The Bills traded out of their No. 10 overall pick a year ago, passing on the chance to draft Patrick Mahomes or Deshaun Watson in favor of amassing draft capital. This season, the Bills used significant draft capital to trade up for quarterback Josh Allen (moving from 12th overall to seventh). The kids would call that hustling backward, especially when Allen has an uphill climb just to surpass previous Bills quarterback Tyrod Taylor's level of production.

 

Bills fans will point to this being the first draft for GM Brandon Beane, who was hired last May, but that only emphasizes how tricky it is to come up with a cohesive roster when the GM and coach are always in flux. Allen could prove his skeptics wrong, and his athleticism is unquestionable, but Josh Rosen has clearly displayed a more obvious NFL skill set. Allen is reminiscent of a souped-up version of another Bills first-round quarterback: J.P. Losman, a player with accuracy issues who was a star in the pre-draft season because of his measurables. Losman was taken 22nd overall in the 2004 NFL Draft and proceeded to compile a 10-23 record in Buffalo."

[The Virginian]

Hummmm.....

 

 

 

New Logo?

 

 

[Augie]

 

 

Too ridiculous to take seriously.