Ol Dirty B Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Pot...meet....Kettle Thanks for your contribution. Well worth it. Garbage post. Edited March 22, 2018 by Ol Dirty B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: some real humorous people here, in a sick way. no, I can take a joke but the young man clearly has some issues and shouldn't be mocked. He tried some kinda dope I'm guessing. I wouldn't exactly call that "issues" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: If you read it, I said can’t we treat him like a human for a little while. Now that we know he’s okay all bets are off. Sweet 16 begs to differ. ALL BETS are on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: Thanks for your contribution. Well worth it. Garbage post. I agree....your post was absolute garbage 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: I agree....your post was absolute garbage Care to explain? Actually don't bother. I'm not going to read it. You're child's play. Have fun Edited March 22, 2018 by Ol Dirty B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffAlone said: He tried some kinda dope I'm guessing. I wouldn't exactly call that "issues" okay, you being technical here? seems he had an issue with something. any clarification on what "kinda dope" it was? or could it be a mental "issue"? either way, he has some issues to resolve and I hope he gets the help he needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 This 2nd year will either make him or break him. Hopefully not another James Hardy situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 13 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: You're not a lawyer. I know it's fun just to ask questions and pretend that undercuts all proof, but it's not how it works. It's pretty easy to connect the guy with all the cuts who had to be taken to the hospital is probably the one who smashed the windows on the 30th floor. *This is just a rich kid getting off easy, if this was you, or me, or 99% of this society, we are getting charged. You can pretend you know what you're talking about, but you have no clue. This was just an easy plea deal that saved the Sheriffs office money on not prosecuting and having trial costs, he I'm assuming offered to pay for cleaning costs and repairs, and the property probably wants this put behind them asap because this isn't really attractive to their clientele. And most don't want to deal with a trial. But go ahead, ask your questions like you'd make a good lawyer. I'm thinking you're trying to look like you know what your talking about. everything in your post aside from the *whining is pure speculation. you have no clue why there were no charges but hey, make it look like you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Yup, just like I thought. He pays for the damages, charges are dropped. Voila! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) Gonna take a lot more than bloody nudity for LA prosecutors to take their chances with a Bills player again... Edited March 22, 2018 by YoloinOhio 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: okay, you being technical here? seems he had an issue with something. any clarification on what "kinda dope" it was? or could it be a mental "issue"? either way, he has some issues to resolve and I hope he gets the help he needs. No news that we don't all have....that's why I suggest it ain't mental illness. Its not like he's ever had any issues in the past. We shouldn't rush to Assume he's mentally ill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 And is it a little ironic that he wore that OJ T-shirt on draft night ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 18 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: If you read it, I said can’t we treat him like a human for a little while. Now that we know he’s okay all bets are off. Sorry apparently, “a little while” meant one day ? I just made the assumption that we already knew he survived, and he wasn’t in life threatening medical condition. We still don’t know if he’s “alright”, the dude is either seriously mental ill, or he had a bad trip which was my belief. I thought that people were being righteous because they actually worried what this means for his future. We still haven’t a clue what the future holds for him following this incident. Some of us use humor to deal with everything, if that’s not your style that’s cool too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: I'm thinking you're trying to look like you know what your talking about. everything in your post aside from the *whining is pure speculation. you have no clue why there were no charges but hey, make it look like you do. I don't, it is a guess. It's a deal that appears to benefit all sides. I'm not trying to make it look like anything. I don't really care what you or whoever thinks I know or don't know. I do know that the majority of cases end in a form of a plea deal because it is least expensive to all parties involved and easier on prosecutors and defense attorneys, especially overloaded public defendents. Some people oppose this, others just see it as how the legal system can function. If everyone went to trial it'd be a disaster. But again whatever, why would I make this my thing to die on. I'm not claiming inside sources, or to be an expert, I do know a bit and this is my opinion. I also think he should have been charged, and someone of a lesser economic status wouldn't have been so fortunate. Anyone who wants to come off like I'm claiming something can !@#$ off. It's an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 37 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: No, but it is illegal to run around naked in public, smash a property's windows, and smear your blood all over the hall. He did a lot more than just make a fool of himself. Yeah but in all seriousness, it was kind of apparent the main reason they arrested him was for his own safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: Sorry apparently, “a little while” meant one day ? I just made the assumption that we already knew he survived, and he wasn’t in life threatening medical condition. We still don’t know if he’s “alright”, the dude is either seriously mental ill, or he had a bad trip which was my belief. I thought that people were being righteous because they actually worried what this means for his future. We still haven’t a clue what the future holds for him following this incident. Some of us use humor to deal with everything, if that’s not your style that’s cool too. It was in poor taste to talk about what it means for the team when he was in a psych ward. Now, that we have seen multiple people say he will be fine, a joke about his hands is acceptable. At no point is it acceptable to joke about his mental health. Do you see the difference? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: I don't, it is a guess. It's a deal that appears to benefit all sides. I'm not trying to make it look like anything. I don't really care what you or whoever thinks I know or don't know. I do know that the majority of cases end in a form of a plea deal because it is least expensive to all parties involved and easier on prosecutors and defense attorneys, especially overloaded public defendents. Some people oppose this, others just see it as how the legal system can function. If everyone went to trial it'd be a disaster. But again whatever, why would I make this my thing to die on. I'm not claiming inside sources, or to be an expert, I do know a bit and this is my opinion. I also think he should have been charged, and someone of a lesser economic status wouldn't have been so fortunate. Anyone who wants to come off like I'm claiming something can !@#$ off. It's an opinion. Maybe while you are stating your "opinion" you should not be telling people that they are not lawyers when stating theirs? Just sayin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: It was in poor taste to talk about what it means for the team when he was in a psych ward. Now, that we have seen multiple people say he will be fine, a joke about his hands is acceptable. At no point is it acceptable to joke about his mental health. Do you see the difference? So I guess we are translating people saying he will be fine to meaning he went on a bad trip? (which is what many of us assumed from the start). That is why we made jokes about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, BobChalmers said: Yeah but in all seriousness, it was kind of apparent the main reason they arrested him was for his own safety. I don't know much about this, I agree with you on that, does that usually get someone out of charges? I honestly don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: So I guess we are translating people saying he will be fine to meaning he went on a bad trip? (which is what many of us assumed from the start). That is why we made jokes about it. I’m not assuming that. I’m not assuming anything other than “he’s okay.” Maybe that was the case, maybe it wasn’t. You can assume whatever floats your boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Trust the "legal" process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 35 minutes ago, KW95 said: Your opening statement killed your point: " He may have dropped this one " End of story. You lost all reason after this. Cheers Not really. It would have been a great catch but it should have been an easy touchdown with a better throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Maybe while you are stating your "opinion" you should not be telling people that they are not lawyers when stating theirs? Just sayin Wow. That was weaker than I expected. Child's play. It doesn't even make sense. Did you read the post I responded too? Because I don't believe he actually believes what he posted. I think everyone in this thread knows that Zay broke those windows. Even him. Hence, the you're not a lawyer point. I know I said I was done, now I am. You've yet to give anything of relevance in this thread other than of you disapprove of to how I give my opinion. It's noted, and I don't care. So you can move on to the next one. You've added nothing. Edited March 22, 2018 by Ol Dirty B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: I don't, it is a guess. It's a deal that appears to benefit all sides. I'm not trying to make it look like anything. I don't really care what you or whoever thinks I know or don't know. I do know that the majority of cases end in a form of a plea deal because it is least expensive to all parties involved and easier on prosecutors and defense attorneys, especially overloaded public defendents. Some people oppose this, others just see it as how the legal system can function. If everyone went to trial it'd be a disaster. But again whatever, why would I make this my thing to die on. I'm not claiming inside sources, or to be an expert, I do know a bit and this is my opinion. I also think he should have been charged, and someone of a lesser economic status wouldn't have been so fortunate. Anyone who wants to come off like I'm claiming something can !@#$ off. It's an opinion. Edited March 22, 2018 by DaBillsFanSince1973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 ...so now we wait for Judge, Jury & Executioner Goodell to weigh in under personal conduct policy......oh joy............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: Posts so good DaBillsFanSince1973 wants to make sure you read them, twice!!! And, back to back. Edited March 22, 2018 by Ol Dirty B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...so now we wait for Judge, Jury & Executioner Goodell to weigh in under personal conduct policy......oh joy............ Unless there's evidence this was drug-related, he can't do a thing to Zay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: Wow. That was weaker than I expected. Child's play. It doesn't even make sense. Did you read the post I responded too? Because I don't believe he actually believes what he posted. I think everyone in this thread knows that Zay broke those windows. Even him. Hence, the you're not a lawyer point. I know I said I was done, now I am. You've yet to give anything of relevance in this thread other than of you disapprove of to how I give my opinion. It's noted, and I don't care. So you can move on to the next one. You've added nothing. A typical weak ass response from someone who got called out for their bs post.....and really doesnt have a comeback to it. Dont ridicule others for giving an opinion....then give your completely uninformed opinion like its your right..... Edited March 22, 2018 by John from Riverside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb62 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 55 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: some real humorous people here, in a sick way. no, I can take a joke but the young man clearly has some issues and shouldn't be mocked. Relax Fancis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Herb62 said: Relax Fancis at least spell it right if you're going to go out of your way to ask me to relax. that said, I do not need to relax, but thanks for your concern. that's my story and I'm sticking to it, francis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 13 minutes ago, Doc said: Unless there's evidence this was drug-related, he can't do a thing to Zay. You don’t need to be charged — it may end up on zay to prove why he shouldn’t see some punishment for being arrested naked, while vandalizing and disturbing the peace. Wont be serious but won’t be shocked by a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, Herb62 said: Relax Fancis Maybe tomorrow it will be your kin and we'll just say relax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Must have a good lawyer Nah. First-time offender, only property-related damages, likely restitution on Zay's part. No DA will file on that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Everyone needs to chill the hell out. He was fighting for Jesus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 44 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Gonna take a lot more than bloody nudity for LA prosecutors to take their chances with a Bills player again... Right, they don’t even have a glove to have him try on... Zay left nothing to chance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Saint Doug said: Well, he wasn’t exactly in public. All we saw was him walk in front of a camera naked and swearing. Who’s blood was that and how was it connected to Zay? Who broke that window and why? I’m fairly certain no one is willing to talk in this situation. There’s basically no case. Very, very valid points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Good news. Hope Zay gets better soon and we see him out there for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 49 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Gonna take a lot more than bloody nudity for LA prosecutors to take their chances with a Bills player again... I hear Marcia Clark has a new show out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Everyone needs to chill the hell out. He was fighting for Jesus Does that mean that we can pre-emptively ban him from the board for Crusading? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Assuming he didn't fry all his brain cells, 'with experience comes wisdom'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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