Iron Maiden Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 The over/under for the Bills in 2018 is 7 wins..... http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22146300/predicting-2018-vegas-win-totals-all-32-nfl-teams-unders-season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 It's Barnwell's projection, not ESPN as an entity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Not saying they are right but we have a bunch of question marks going into the off-season. After the draft and FA I'd expect that number to move (not sure if it will be up or down though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 It’s January. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 That's assuming they go with Peterman and a rookie QB. If that happens, 7 wins could be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 It's Barnwell. He still thinks we won't break the playoff drought this year.? 1 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 He does say that we'll eventually end up making a leap forward...after taking a step back in 2018.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) I don’t find the number insulting. The Bills had a minus 57 point differential this year. 9 wins is a credit to them. They managed to win games when they had the chance. They also will look look a lot different this year. I suspect that number can move quite a bit in either direction depending on what happens this offseason. Edited January 20, 2018 by Kirby Jackson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said: It’s January. again... It's JANUARY - FCOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Doc said: That's assuming they go with Peterman and a rookie QB. If that happens, 7 wins could be right. Its certainly a fair number for a rookie qb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 minute ago, cd1 said: again... It's JANUARY - FCOL No one said it was written in stone... It's all in good fun...FCOL.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I don’t find the number insulting. The Bills has a minus 57 point differential this year. 9 wins is a credit to them. They managed to win games when they had the chance. They also will look look a lot different this year. I suspect that number can move quite a bit in either direction depending on what happens this offseason. Look back at their predictions. Almost every single year it is the Bills previous year's win total minus two. Don't forget to add one for the Jets, two for the fish and the Pats are projected at 16. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Its certainly a fair number for a rookie qb Not for Peterman. He would have won 23 games for us as a rookie. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Also remember, this forecast was Vegas oriented. Bookies make a line that tries to get equal numbers of people betting each side. Bookies then make money on the transaction cost. In different words: Vegas odds are what the bookies think the betting pool will think. In the end, Vegas odds are usually close to the truth, but sometimes they can be skewed by popular and unpopular teams. I hope I made sense there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Oh no, some guy at ESPN said something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 we're dooooomed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Well to be fair... we have a fluid situation next year. Outside of safety, there is no position on the team that we dont need more talent in and could benefit from a change in. In my opinion, there arent too many teams with the dearth of talent that Bills have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 26 minutes ago, Iron Maiden said: The over/under for the Bills in 2018 is 7 wins..... http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22146300/predicting-2018-vegas-win-totals-all-32-nfl-teams-unders-season It's pretty meaningless at this point where many teams have questionmarks at key positions. It's likely based on 1) the Bills lack a QB 2) the Bills have historically lacked willingness to take enough shots and put in enough investment to fix 1) We overachieved for our current roster. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: It's pretty meaningless at this point where many teams have questionmarks at key positions. It's likely based on 1) the Bills lack a QB 2) the Bills have historically lacked willingness to take enough shots and put in enough investment to fix 1) We overachieved for our current roster. That's correct....but nothing says we can't do it again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTheTrust Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Anyone know if this guy picked the Jags, Eagles, and Minny to be in the conference championships at this time last year. If so, then I'm worried..otherwise...tell him to shut his trap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 25 minutes ago, Iron Maiden said: He does say that we'll eventually end up making a leap forward...after taking a step back in 2018.... ...under the radar worked in 2017 so we'll "Play It Again Sam" in 2018.....stay tuned............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Fire everyone and start over 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 14 minutes ago, papazoid said: we're dooooomed Bills against Vegas.........how could they lose?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 22 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: Not for Peterman. He would have won 23 games for us as a rookie. 22. There was no winning that chargers game 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 How can we make a W/L projection for next season when the current season hasnt finished. Its a completely pointless task. Might as well try and predict wins now for the Vegas Raiders’ first season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Also I predict ESPN will go out of business in 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Iron Maiden said: No one said it was written in stone... It's all in good fun...FCOL.... FUN? Foolhardy is more like it. Might as well speculate on the weather for opening day... Edited January 20, 2018 by cd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 31 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Look back at their predictions. Almost every single year it is the Bills previous year's win total minus two. Don't forget to add one for the Jets, two for the fish and the Pats are projected at 16. In 2015 the Bills O/u was 8.5 (they won 8), in 2016 it was 8 (they won 7) and in 2017 it was 6 (they won 9). Vegas doesnt have it out for the Bills. The over/under is set on where they think it will be. That’s how they make the most money. Their goal is to win money. They don’t want to be in a position where a lot of action goes on one side and catches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Barnwell is hit or miss for me. He is a pure advanced metrics guy. The prediction is most likely based on the fact that A) he's a Tyrod homer, and Tyrod is almost certainly gone or B) he isn't using any subjective opinions here, only going by the Pythagorean expectations Either way we overachieved this year, and look to have an even tougher schedule next year. If we draft a QB or go with Peterman, we will most likely see a regression, unless, as he said, the QB we draft/Nate plays amazing. If we get Alex Smith (as a bridge starter, I don't think he's the answer for more than a year or so) then we prob win 8 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeby Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) Buffalo. We're such illogical fans sometimes. 2018 is rebuild. All of those draft picks, maybe a rookie qb, a new OC - it's not about 2018 but about hopes for 2020-2026 as I see it. I have no idea how many wins to expect as there's too much unknown - same as for everyone. I just hope for maybe a second year in a row in which the draft is not the highpoint of the season for us fans and so excitement for 2019 this time 12 months from now. Edited January 20, 2018 by sleeby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Iron Maiden said: The over/under for the Bills in 2018 is 7 wins..... http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22146300/predicting-2018-vegas-win-totals-all-32-nfl-teams-unders-season They went 9-7 this past season and backed into the playoffs. Not spectacular by any stretch of the imagination. QB is unsettled to say the least. Most of the teams stars are elderly by NFL standards. And they just switched OCs again. On the plus side, the HC seems like a keeper so far and they have a buttload of draft picks to work with. 7 wins is a fair, if not slightly conservative, guess for January. Edited January 20, 2018 by CodeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 28 minutes ago, cd1 said: FUN? Foolhardy is more like it. Might as well speculate on the weather for opening day... Sunny, 72 degrees with a 6 miles per hour westerly wind ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 On the o/u note if the Bucs go off at 6.5 next year I’m going in on the over. That team is a bit of a mess but has so much talent. It wouldn’t take much for them to win 9 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: On the o/u note if the Bucs go off at 6.5 next year I’m going in on the over. That team is a bit of a mess but has so much talent. It wouldn’t take much for them to win 9 games. Winston has to stay away from injuries.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 43 minutes ago, bobobonators said: How can we make a W/L projection for next season when the current season hasnt finished. Its a completely pointless task. Might as well try and predict wins now for the Vegas Raiders’ first season. There is always a gambling process that never stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 Just now, row_33 said: There is always a gambling process that never stops. Yup....If I was still a betting man, I would jump on the over right now..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, Iron Maiden said: Winston has to stay away from injuries.... I think that Dirk Koetter is one of the worst ever too. I heard a story from my dad that was kind of funny. He has a friend that does the security at the visiting team hotel. The guy said that teams always have strict curfews, certain times they can’t leave the floor, etc... The Bucs were the one exception. He said that they were coming in at all hours of the night, bringing back girls, wandering the lobby and just about anything else that you could imagine. He said that he had never seen anything like it in his time doing the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said: Oh no, some guy at ESPN said something. the entire media hates us! it's a conspiracy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I would not be surprised with a step-back in 18. They greatly overachieved this year given the talent level on the roster. Save for a ton of turnovers created early in the season by the defense, this could have been a 6-10 team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: I don’t find the number insulting. The Bills had a minus 57 point differential this year. 9 wins is a credit to them. They managed to win games when they had the chance. They also will look look a lot different this year. I suspect that number can move quite a bit in either direction depending on what happens this offseason. Yeah, it's a fair projection. I still think there's going to be significant roster turnover this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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