billsintaiwan Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 The Chiefs are starting Patrick Mahomes on Sunday, having already clinched their playoff spot. If he leads them to victory, he’ll be the first quarterback drafted by the Chiefs to win a game since Todd Blackledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) That's pretty bizarre. Quite the list actually Alex Smith Matt Cassel Damon Huard Tyler Thigpen Trent Green Elvis Grbac Rich Gannon Steve Bono Joe Montana Dave Krieg Steve Deberg Edited December 28, 2017 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 They've only drafted 7 in the past 20 years--mostly later rounders. Not too surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, dneveu said: That's pretty bizarre. Quite the list actually Alex Smith Matt Cassel Damon Huard Tyler Thigpen Trent Green Elvis Grbac Rich Gannon Steve Bono Joe Montana Dave Krieg Steve Deberg Sweet Jesus, I remember being optimistic when Thigpen signed here. Though he could be a find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
707BillsFan Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 I was going to post this last night. 30 years!! Blackledge's stats in that game were something like 6/15 75yds and an int. Not like he did anything to help them win. Saints have gone 19 years: Danny Wuerffel. Then again, they've had Brees for the last 12 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 30 minutes ago, dneveu said: That's pretty bizarre. Quite the list actually Alex Smith Matt Cassel Damon Huard Tyler Thigpen Trent Green Elvis Grbac Rich Gannon Steve Bono Joe Montana Dave Krieg Steve Deberg Quite the 49ers connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 42 minutes ago, billsintaiwan said: The Chiefs are starting Patrick Mahomes on Sunday, having already clinched their playoff spot. If he leads them to victory, he’ll be the first quarterback drafted by the Chiefs to win a game since Todd Blackledge Interesting. I wonder if he creates any QB controversy if he wins decisively... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsintaiwan Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 minute ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Interesting. I wonder if he creates any QB controversy if he wins decisively... Outside of the Rob Johnson debacle, I can't think of any other situations where a qb comes in and does well in a meaningless last game and earns a playoff start. But there are some similarities. Smith hasn't been wonderful this year despite the leading the team to the playoffs. Flutie wasn't great when he got replaced. To be clear, I don't think he should have been replaced. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Just now, billsintaiwan said: Outside of the Rob Johnson debacle, I can't think of any other situations where a qb comes in and does well in a meaningless last game and earns a playoff start. But there are some similarities. Smith hasn't been wonderful this year despite the leading the team to the playoffs. Flutie wasn't great when he got replaced. To be clear, I don't think he should have been replaced. That is the exact scenario I was thinking about. I doubt it will happen, but I DO believe the Chiefs fan base is eager to see Mahomes succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 hour ago, billsintaiwan said: The Chiefs are starting Patrick Mahomes on Sunday, having already clinched their playoff spot. If he leads them to victory, he’ll be the first quarterback drafted by the Chiefs to win a game since Todd Blackledge I guess they want to see what they have before they go into next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlonce Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 hour ago, billsintaiwan said: Outside of the Rob Johnson debacle, I can't think of any other situations where a qb comes in and does well in a meaningless last game and earns a playoff start. But there are some similarities. Smith hasn't been wonderful this year despite the leading the team to the playoffs. Flutie wasn't great when he got replaced. To be clear, I don't think he should have been replaced. Those were the days. Regressing, that Rob Johnson switch,by Ralph Wilson,(partially based on that meaningless last game win) may have cost us a Super Bowl. Flutie was, by far, a better QB, and I believe there never would have been a Music City Miracle. Picking that clown up with a number one was arguably one of the largest mistakes this franchise has ever made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 2 hours ago, dneveu said: That's pretty bizarre. Quite the list actually Alex Smith Matt Cassel Damon Huard Tyler Thigpen Trent Green Elvis Grbac Rich Gannon Steve Bono Joe Montana Dave Krieg Steve Deberg If memory serves, I think Deberg played in the Chiefs playoff game with a rod screwed into his middle finger of throwing hand. The tip of it was sticking out of the finger a little bit. There was blood too. Gross! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, billsintaiwan said: Outside of the Rob Johnson debacle, I can't think of any other situations where a qb comes in and does well in a meaningless last game and earns a playoff start. But there are some similarities. Smith hasn't been wonderful this year despite the leading the team to the playoffs. Flutie wasn't great when he got replaced. To be clear, I don't think he should have been replaced. Perhaps my standards are too low - but 4000+ 26 TDs and 5 INTs in only 15 games seems pretty good doesn't it? Another 350 on the ground too Edited December 28, 2017 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 3 hours ago, billsintaiwan said: The Chiefs are starting Patrick Mahomes on Sunday, having already clinched their playoff spot. If he leads them to victory, he’ll be the first quarterback drafted by the Chiefs to win a game since Todd Blackledge Hmm. So then FA QB play can work, but only to a degree. At least the Chiefs' record supports that assertion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 3 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Interesting. I wonder if he creates any QB controversy if he wins decisively... There are quite a few fans here in KC that want him to start already. Personally, I can't wait for him to fall on his face. I think it was a HUGE mistake to give up a first for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, Yav said: There are quite a few fans here in KC that want him to start already. Personally, I can't wait for him to fall on his face. I think it was a HUGE mistake to give up a first for him. Not sure why but I am kind of rooting for that outcome as well. I think it is because the way some people reacted when the Bills "passed on him" by trading away the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 7 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Not sure why but I am kind of rooting for that outcome as well. I think it is because the way some people reacted when the Bills "passed on him" by trading away the pick. I just don't see him translating well to the NFL. He maybe a decent player but I just can't see him being a first round QB. Maybe because I live in KC and just can't stomach the Chefs and some of their fans are annoying. I'm so tired of hearing about how they win their weak ass division and make the playoffs only to loose in the first round when they play against real playoff teams. Seeing them screw up just seems to be a fun show to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 3 hours ago, KelsaysLunchbox said: Sweet Jesus, I remember being optimistic when Thigpen signed here. Though he could be a find. I remember the time when the ball found his head: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, WhoTom said: I remember the time when the ball found his head: That's good. Not Dan Carpenter and the helmet good. But good nonetheless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 3 hours ago, BuffaloBill said: I guess they want to see what they have before they go into next season. Warning from Marv - A coach that listens to the fans is soon sitting with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EersN'Bills Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) That's mind blowing. Especially considering the Bills have drafted such greats as Collins, Losman, Edwards and Manuel who have won them games since Kelly. Some teams just struggle drafting certain positions. The Ravens have never been able to draft a good WR under Ozzie. Edited December 28, 2017 by EersN'Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Meanwhile, the last time the Patriots started a QB that they DIDN'T draft was 1993. That's 24 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Buffalo86 said: Meanwhile, the last time the Patriots started a QB that they DIDN'T draft was 1993. That's 24 seasons. Must be similar for GB, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Must be similar for GB, right? Pretty close. Starting Seneca Wallace for a game in '13 (and starting Scott Tolzien the next 2 weeks) ended a streak that began in '92. Before that it was all Majkowski, Favre, Rodgers, & Flynn. Edited December 28, 2017 by Buffalo86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 4 hours ago, dlonce said: Those were the days. Regressing, that Rob Johnson switch,by Ralph Wilson,(partially based on that meaningless last game win) may have cost us a Super Bowl. Flutie was, by far, a better QB, and I believe there never would have been a Music City Miracle. Picking that clown up with a number one was arguably one of the largest mistakes this franchise has ever made. I did agree with everything stated here except Ralph’s influence on the decision. EVERY THING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 5 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: That is the exact scenario I was thinking about. I doubt it will happen, but I DO believe the Chiefs fan base is eager to see Mahomes succeed. JeffisMagic right now: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 5 hours ago, dlonce said: Those were the days. Regressing, that Rob Johnson switch,by Ralph Wilson,(partially based on that meaningless last game win) may have cost us a Super Bowl. Flutie was, by far, a better QB, and I believe there never would have been a Music City Miracle. Picking that clown up with a number one was arguably one of the largest mistakes this franchise has ever made. Flutie sucked in every playoff game he played. Johnson played great and if not for that miracle.... And now you want to give Flutie a Super Bowl? I would have settled for one playoff game where he didn’t suck out here and lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 8 hours ago, billsintaiwan said: The Chiefs are starting Patrick Mahomes on Sunday, having already clinched their playoff spot. If he leads them to victory, he’ll be the first quarterback drafted by the Chiefs to win a game since Todd Blackledge That is crazy! Blackledge last won a game for the Chiefs early in the 1987 season...its been more than 30 years!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 3 hours ago, Buffalo86 said: Pretty close. Starting Seneca Wallace for a game in '13 (and starting Scott Tolzien the next 2 weeks) ended a streak that began in '92. Before that it was all Majkowski, Favre, Rodgers, & Flynn. Farve was drafted by Atl. It would only be the games Rodgers started. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMAKCruiser Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 hour ago, row_33 said: Flutie sucked in every playoff game he played. Johnson played great and if not for that miracle.... And now you want to give Flutie a Super Bowl? I would have settled for one playoff game where he didn’t suck out here and lose. You clearly do not remember the game. Johnson was horrid in that game. He was something like 10 of 25 for 100 yards and was Jevon Kearses ragdoll all game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Rochesterfan said: Farve was drafted by Atl. It would only be the games Rodgers started. Oh snap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kkspike Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1992 Green Bay training camp quarterbacks were Majkowski Farve Bono Brunell Kurt Warner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Kkspike said: 1992 Green Bay training camp quarterbacks were Majkowski Farve Bono Brunell Kurt Warner This is not accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 14 hours ago, billsintaiwan said: Outside of the Rob Johnson debacle, I can't think of any other situations where a qb comes in and does well in a meaningless last game and earns a playoff start. But there are some similarities. Smith hasn't been wonderful this year despite the leading the team to the playoffs. Flutie wasn't great when he got replaced. To be clear, I don't think he should have been replaced. Didn't Flynn for the Packers toss 6 TDs against the Lions the one year and signed a big contract with the Seahawks.... as they drafted Russell Wilson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsintaiwan Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 2 hours ago, dma0034 said: Didn't Flynn for the Packers toss 6 TDs against the Lions the one year and signed a big contract with the Seahawks.... as they drafted Russell Wilson? That is true if memory serves. But that is more similar to how we got Johnson in the first place. He had a great last start of the season for the jags and looked like a qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kkspike Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 12 hours ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: This is not accurate Your right it was the 1994 team Farve Brunell Kurt Warner Ty BYU guy his brother played Qb for eagles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 On 12/28/2017 at 11:32 AM, dneveu said: That's pretty bizarre. Quite the list actually Alex Smith Matt Cassel Damon Huard Tyler Thigpen Trent Green Elvis Grbac Rich Gannon Steve Bono Joe Montana Dave Krieg Steve Deberg Drafted by the Chiefs, not played for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 15 hours ago, Luka said: Drafted by the Chiefs, not played for. Right - all of those guys have played and won games for the Chiefs since Todd Blackledge - none were drafted by them. On 12/28/2017 at 6:12 PM, Captain_Quint said: JeffisMagic right now: Jackie Treehorn.... treats objects like women... man.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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