Pirate Angel Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 17 minutes ago, mattynh said: That pass had too much heat. He was like 4 yards from him and he zipped it. Every INT is on peterman no matter what moose said. They were all his fault. You either catch the ball or make it so no one else does. That's receiving 101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Since they will not just flat out say Peterman was a flaming bag of poo I'll have to just settle for the two or three times I laughed out loud as they explained that 0NLY 4 ints were on him .......... the fifth was a drop. 0h well in that case he was fantastic ......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 22 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: They both sucked.... that an option? There's sucks as in "I put my hand over the end of the vacuum cleaner hose and I can feel the suction" sucks Then there's sucks as in "my 6 year old sat down on the filter drain at a public pool and it sucked his intestines out his rectum, he required major surgery" sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Let me see if I understand the logic of this thread. Peterman had a horrible game, so that automatically means Tyrod isn't terrible? Okay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said: I still don't think tyrod is the answer What was the question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Where is Savior Peterman at? Just another 5th round clipboard holder. He’s the savior of the Gatorade. He’s already in the record books! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: I thought he should have given Taylor the next two games at least. Was shocked to see McDermott pull the trigger so soon. Obviously it was the wrong decision. But I'm over it. Peterman isn't nearly as bad as the box score shows today. I'm still fully supportive of McDermott. wow, you have been "processed" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: There's sucks as in "I put my hand over the end of the vacuum cleaner hose and I can feel the suction" sucks Then there's sucks as in "my 6 year old sat down on the filter drain at a public pool and it sucked his intestines out his rectum, he required major surgery" sucks Well now.... that escalated quickly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I was 100% behind starting Peterman. I don't think anyone thought he would be as bad as he was, even the people saying they should still start Taylor. That being said, it's obvious he is not ready, and tyrod should finish out the year. Or at least until they're eliminated from the playoffs. I still think Tyrod is not our future and his play 65% of the time is maddening. I would like to see Peterman play again, but not until we're officially eliminated from playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 20 minutes ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said: With or without Tyrod this team was not going to the playoffs. Tyrod won’t be here next year. I have no problems with the coach benching Tyrod cause he sucks, and I don’t fault him for benching Peterman. To be honest.... I want to see more of Peterman. Im just over Tyrod and the whole QB situation. Maybe Peterman can grow, I know what Tyrod has to offer. Question: is there any QB who has had a successful NFL career, who threw <100 yds, completed <50% of his passes, and threw 5 INTs in his first outing? I define "successful NFL career" very loosly by QB stats - I'll take started for ~3 years, completed >58% of his passes, threw on average at least 1 TD per game started and TD/turnover ratio >1.8. I don't know of one, but I'll sit corrected. 4 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: Well now.... that escalated quickly! Is it apt, or is it not apt? They can both suck, but there are degrees of suckage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Not interested in your troll thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 17 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Is it apt, or is it not apt? They can both suck, but there are degrees of suckage. There are absolutely degrees of suckage. I am not sure I can be as graphic as you were in description. However, the degrees of suckage by both QBs are not in the future plans of a winning football team. We NEED a better direction from our signal caller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, BadLandsMeanie said: Not interested in your troll thread. Trolling? Who me? I was just curious where Peterman's legion of fans stood. The point was I don't know of a 5th round pick who ever starteed as a rookie, much less in a crucial game. The coaching staff and FO have to take responsibility for this farce..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I still say it was the right move to start him. Now we know for sure that the Bills need a new QB next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 45 minutes ago, paulbills said: No offense, but no pass from an NFL QB should ever "come in with too much heat" the faster the ball gets there the better. No offense. But you have no idea about football nuances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 54 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: Peterman playing was still the right move. Sorry. Correct. Tyrod's poor play left them with no other choice. Now they know they are back in qb purgatory. Win win situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 50 minutes ago, Foxx said: so, you are looking for a who sucks less discussion? I think the OP is justifiably annoyed with the fact that you and a couple others were fairly adimant that if somebody didn’t agree with the decision they obviously knew slim to none about what was going on. It was a bad move. I didn’t want to be right. I kept grasping to the thought of a rookie coming in and playing better than our average/not quite good enough qb. He wasn’t. He sucked. It wasn’t the right move and now we have people showing real colors like JMC up there still pandering on about how it was the right call. It it just wasn’t. Hands down. And I’m not somebody saying we even would have won if Taylor started but i’d Bet money it would have been competitive and we probably woulda had a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said: And that anyone saying otherwise knew nothing about how bad Tyrod is and the stupidity of all the experts who don't watch the Bills....... Explain away....... We know what we have with Taylor, which is an average QB. We needed to find out what We have with Peterman to determine how next year's draft will be handled. Yeah Peterman sucked today, can't argue that, but we got rolled last week just as bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 51 minutes ago, stuvian said: You don't put in Peterman while we are still alive for a playoff run. It's the timing I question. If we get eliminated then you bring him in Exactly. All time bone headed arrogant decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Trolling? Who me? I was just curious where Peterman's legion of fans stood. The point was I don't know of a 5th round pick who ever starteed as a rookie, much less in a crucial game. The coaching staff and FO have to take responsibility for this farce..... If this was your title I would agree! "The coaching staff and FO have to take responsibility for this farce....." Right off the bat two of the interceptions are on them if you ask me (like matter2003 pointed out) . Miller and rookie LT against Tre Boston, who hit him releasing the ball twice. But it is worse than that to me. They didn't know what they were seeing in practice to get things so wrong. And it didn't look like the easy safe low risk offense teams put a newbie into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 42 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: I thought he should have given Taylor the next two games at least. Was shocked to see McDermott pull the trigger so soon. Obviously it was the wrong decision. But I'm over it. Peterman isn't nearly as bad as the box score shows today. I'm still fully supportive of McDermott. You're right, he almost had 6 ints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Neither QB is winning this game, Taylor is a better QB right now because of experience only. McD should've released Taylor right when he signed on as HC. 1st year HC with all new coaching staff and we expected to make the playoffs in his 1st year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, BadLandsMeanie said: If this was your title I would agree! "The coaching staff and FO have to take responsibility for this farce....." Right off the bat two of the interceptions are on them if you ask me (like matter2003 pointed out) . Miller and rookie LT against Tre Boston, who hit him releasing the ball twice. But it is worse than that to me. They didn't know what they were seeing in practice to get things so wrong. And it didn't look like the easy safe low risk offense teams put a newbie into. And there we agree. There is no way a 5th round rookie could have succeeded. It was a joke and how McDermott handled halftime and will handle the next few days will speak volumes. If he shows the same hubris I'll be pissed. 3 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Neither QB is winning this game, Taylor is a better QB right now because of experience only. McD should've released Taylor right when he signed on as HC. 1st year HC with all new coaching staff and we expected to make the playoffs in his 1st year. Again we were 2 wins from the playoffs last year. He took over a .500 team, not the Cleveland Browns..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Peterman was obviously pushing Taylor in practice to have McD start him over Taylor. Let me say that again a 5th rd rookie is pushing our starting QB. The only mistake McD made was starting him vs the Chargers. The Chargers have a cloned version of the Jets defense, Taylor would've lost this game and then you could've started Peterman vs KC with little expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 At this point I want us to do 1 of 2 things. 1.Find a way to draft Josh Rosen 2. Trade for Andrew Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I have to admit that Taylor looked so bad vs the Jets I would've considered starting a guy bagging groceries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 We have one bad QB and one mediocre QB. Our HC (Head Clapper) looks and sounds more and more like a fool. We have no talent on this roster and there isn’t a single player you can comfortably build around and say is part of our future. We have an OC stuck in 80’s who can’t design an offense around what his team (especially QB) does well. We are no better today than when we had Chan and Fitz leading this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Can someone look up how many HC's have made the playoffs in their 1st year as HC with a team that didn't make the playoffs the previous year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I have to admit that Taylor looked so bad vs the Jets I would've considered starting a guy bagging groceries. Tell me again how bad he was against the Jets? I saw that game. He was bad against N0 but I'm interested to hear about the Jets game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I have to admit that Taylor looked so bad vs the Jets I would've considered starting a guy bagging groceries. Taylor didn't look bad against the Jets at all. The guy was one of the only offensive players on the field that didn't look bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said: And that anyone saying otherwise knew nothing about how bad Tyrod is and the stupidity of all the experts who don't watch the Bills....... Explain away....... The season was over after the Jets game....we have no qb, no oline, no pass rush and no secondary. This is easily tip 3 worst team in nfl so who cares about who starts, so stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 How did Tyrod play in the Carolina Panthers game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrochester55 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Taylor is not a very good Qb but he is a starter. There is a clear dropoff between mediocre starter and not fit to play, we saw this today. Maybe Peterman has potential, maybe he needed to develop, but he was worse than anyone on the bills ever at QB. That is right, JP Losman, Jeff Tuel, Matt Kofler, Billy Joe Hobert, Vince Ferragamo, Bruce Mathison and Brian McClure were Tom Brady compared to this. You have to stick with Taylor and sign a veteran backup in case he gets hurt, then you draft a first rounder next year. Peterman for any reason should not be anywhere near an NFL field again in 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 33 minutes ago, Doc said: I still say it was the right move to start him. Now we know for sure that the Bills need a new QB next year. I don't work in the profession, but I knew that for sure before today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Now we know for sure we need a QB next year. Thats what I wanted to know. Thank you. I wanted him to start and he failed, but Tyrod is and was never going to be that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 30 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: We know what we have with Taylor, which is an average QB. We needed to find out what We have with Peterman to determine how next year's draft will be handled. Yeah Peterman sucked today, can't argue that, but we got rolled last week just as bad. I don't understand where all the "we needed to find out..." comes from. Peterman was a 5th round draft pick. He didn't light up the camp a la Russ Wilson. You don't "need to find out" what you have with a guy like that. You hope he'll develop into a capable backup. We should already have known how next year's draft should be handled: go all out for the QB we like best. We didn't need to humiliate ourselves to find out. We got rolled last week by an 8-2 team with one of the better D and O in the NFL right now. We got rolled this week by a 3-6 team with whom we really should have been able to at least make a game of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said: Taylor is not a very good Qb but he is a starter. There is a clear dropoff between mediocre starter and not fit to play, we saw this today. Maybe Peterman has potential, maybe he needed to develop, but he was worse than anyone on the bills ever at QB. That is right, JP Losman, Jeff Tuel, Matt Kofler, Billy Joe Hobert, Vince Ferragamo, Bruce Mathison and Brian McClure were Tom Brady compared to this. You have to stick with Taylor and sign a veteran backup in case he gets hurt, then you draft a first rounder next year. Peterman for any reason should not be anywhere near an NFL field again in 2017. Look I am traumatized so I might not be 100% accurate here. But you start the new guy throwing towards the sidelines. That way if he misses or something goes wrong, most always the ball just goes out of bounds. So it is sideline passes and dump the ball to the running back in screens, all with nobody behind them. They had him throwing to the middle and that is like playing Russian roulette with 5 of 6 bullets in the gun. So to me it looked like the offensive game plan was at least as bad as the QB play. Edited November 20, 2017 by BadLandsMeanie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 53 minutes ago, BadLandsMeanie said: Not interested in your troll thread. LAMP Strangely enough when I'm not interested in a thread I...wait for it...don't post in it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: LAMP Strangely enough when I'm not interested in a thread I...wait for it...don't post in it! Don't troll the troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, BadLandsMeanie said: Look I am traumatized so I might not be 100% accurate here. But you start the new guy throwing towards the sidelines. That way if he misses or something goes wring, most always the ball just goes out of bounds. So it is sideline passes and dump the ball to the running back in screens, all with nobody behind them. They had him throwing to the middle and that is like playing Russian roulette with 5 of 6 bullets in the gun. So to me it looked like the offensive game plan was at least as bad as the QB play. OK, I have empathy for the traumatized. And I haven't liked Dennison's game plans most of the season. I think the story at OBD was Peterman can make those over-the-middle throws to open guys that Tyrod misses. Obviously the story was wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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