DC Tom Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Come on man. In 11 starts last year he threw 16 TDs and 4 picks for 2241 yards and ran for another 468 with a 90.7 rating. And that was on a tire fire team that fired it's coach after the season. But yeah, he sucks. And went 1-10 in those starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 The second there's trouble there's going to be an amazing controversy- is he not starting because he's black? Is he not starting because of his protest? Is not starting because he is vegan and they are worried about protests by irrational beef farmers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilsner Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Kaep is welcome to exercise his free speech when NOT on the clock. If I spouted my political views while at work I would and should be reprimanded and/or fired. If he keeps his antics up he will be quite the distraction to any team that picks him up. If he wants to be a social justice warrior then being a football player is the wrong profession for him. If he does get signed he will probably let his activism get in the way of his production. This would not bode well for any team that focuses on winning games and relies on fan support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Can't find a link to it outside of Bleacher Report but I saw that Kap's lawyer tweeted that he expects the QB to be signed within 10 days. What do we all think about this? F$&@ him and his lawyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilsner Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 F$&@ him and his lawyer Do not forget to F the horse he rode in on too. F any sjw horse. Those horses are accomplices too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Do not forget to F the horse he rode in on too. F any sjw horse. Those horses are accomplices too.I love horses !!!And since we're on that subject , is it true that when a horse breaks her/his leg and has trouble ( STANDING) it gets put to sleep? Hmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Good point CFL won't care about kneeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Can't find a link to it outside of Bleacher Report but I saw that Kap's lawyer tweeted that he expects the QB to be signed within 10 days. What do we all think about this? Arena league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Awesome! Now all the sports channels (and news channels) will carry wall-to-wall coverage of a 2nd or 3rd string quarterback being signed. SO newsworthy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Is not starting because he is vegan and they are worried about protests by irrational beef farmers? vegans are imbiciles. Hey coach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Cleveland.. They missed out on McCarron today, things can't get any worse, give it a shot!It looks like Cleveland followed our qb development model which we perfected with EJ. I'm not saying kizer is the answer. I haven't seen him play, but half a season seems like someone is desperately pulling levers and pushing buttons over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 If he plays, I want to see him get hammered and suck. Someone got triggered by a peaceful, respectful protest... Kaep is welcome to exercise his free speech when NOT on the clock. If I spouted my political views while at work I would and should be reprimanded and/or fired. If he keeps his antics up he will be quite the distraction to any team that picks him up. If he wants to be a social justice warrior then being a football player is the wrong profession for him. If he does get signed he will probably let his activism get in the way of his production. This would not bode well for any team that focuses on winning games and relies on fan support. Just get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Can't find a link to it outside of Bleacher Report but I saw that Kap's lawyer tweeted that he expects the QB to be signed within 10 days. What do we all think about this? Yeah just like Beane didn't expect to make a move before the trade deadline... Guy is just trying to stir up interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 If you say so. A guy doesn't win the NFC Championship Game if he sucks. He was 16 for 21 233 yards 1TD 0 Int and 122.7 rate. The win included a come from behind in the 4th quarter. Just because you don't like his politics and protest doesn't mean we need to re write history. The man can play and will if he gets another chance IMHO. Hopefully it's not the Patsies**. Bill Bellyache figured out how to win with Mat Cassell. I suspect he could with Colin as well. Rex Grossman won the NFCCG and he definitely sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Given the bang-up job his agent's done so far, I wouldn't be holding my breath. Then he went 8-8. Then he went 2-6 and got benched for Blaine frickin' Gabbert. Then season Gabbert shat the bed, and Kaep came in and proceeded to go 1-12. Just win baby. Not saying he's a great qb by any means (he's better than a bunch of the scrubs populating NFL rosters), but you're an idiot ( )for invoking QB records. It's the ultimate team game. The team with him at QB went 1-10 (or whatever it was). QB records are a more worthless stat than MLB won-loss records for pitchers, which have their own set of problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Well, we are making progress on Kaep threads. Only 5 pages in 2 days. In June this was a 45 page thread. Gotta celebrate the little victories. Just think, soon we won't even have Kaep threads, and we won't have to argue about this issue where literally nobody is willing to give ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 As much as I hate to see the Pats get even marginally better, it'd be pretty great if he signed with NE. I would consider the Pats* signing Kaep bigger and better for the Bills than the trade for Benjamin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Someone got triggered by a peaceful, respectful protest... Nothing says "respect" quite like pig socks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Marv Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Who knew Bills fans hated free speech so much. Right? Pretty gross. Also find it interesting that Kaep was labelled a "nut job" in this thread for expressing his personal beliefs. Seems like a very intelligent person to me. Kaep is welcome to exercise his free speech when NOT on the clock. If I spouted my political views while at work I would and should be reprimanded and/or fired. If he keeps his antics up he will be quite the distraction to any team that picks him up. If he wants to be a social justice warrior then being a football player is the wrong profession for him. If he does get signed he will probably let his activism get in the way of his production. This would not bode well for any team that focuses on winning games and relies on fan support. He's been silent to the point of hurting his status. What exactly are his antics aside from taking a knee a few times over a year ago? So much hyperbole. You'd think the guy hosted a regular anti-cop podcast on Youtube from some of the comments here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Wonder if Denver might be the team. Can't imagine they love starting Osweiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grb Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Nothing says "respect" quite like pig socks. Ya know, if the best you got to complain about is a man's socks, isn't it time to give it a rest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Someone got triggered by a peaceful, respectful protest... Just get over it. hi pot. You're asking someone to get over it when you and Kaepernick could get over 2 things 1) free speech is both ways 2) he is a ****ty QB Right? Pretty gross. Also find it interesting that Kaep was labelled a "nut job" in this thread for expressing his personal beliefs. Seems like a very intelligent person to me. He's been silent to the point of hurting his status. What exactly are his antics aside from taking a knee a few times over a year ago? So much hyperbole. You'd think the guy hosted a regular anti-cop podcast on Youtube from some of the comments here. wearing a terrorists tee shirt. Praising Castro. Wearing Pig socks... Would you like me to go on? Because clearly, you're not keeping up already... Wonder if Denver might be the team. Can't imagine they love starting Osweiler. Elway as a former player knows better than to start this pot brewing. I can only imagine Cleveald or Green Bay being second to Miami But this was all his agent blowing smoke up our Kaepernick to drum up interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Marv Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 hi pot. You're asking someone to get over it when you and Kaepernick could get over 2 things 1) free speech is both ways 2) he is a ****ty QB wearing a terrorists tee shirt. Praising Castro. Wearing Pig socks... Would you like me to go on? Because clearly, you're not keeping up already... Elway as a former player knows better than to start this pot brewing. I can only imagine Cleveald or Green Bay being second to Miami But this was all his agent blowing smoke up our Kaepernick to drum up interest. socks and a t-shirt. you're outraged over a man's socks and tshirt. clearly the man should never be able to work again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Elway as a former player knows better than to start this pot brewing. I can only imagine Cleveald or Green Bay being second to Miami I think a former player would tend to be in favor or players' rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 As I opined in another thread, there sure are a lot of furious white people watching the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Marv Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 As I opined in another thread, there sure are a lot of furious white people watching the NFL. Easily fooled people as well. If Luther Strange was chosen in Alabama and/or Obamacare was replaced, we seriously wouldn't even be talking about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 And went 1-10 in those starts. DC Tom, please page yourself. W-L record isn't a QB stat for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Why do WE have an opinion at all? it's a backup QB. if you do have an opinion, it has nothing to do with sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Marv Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Why do WE have an opinion at all? it's a backup QB. if you do have an opinion, it has nothing to do with sports. I have the opinion that he's perfectly capable of playing in the NFL. I do not believe that every rostered QB is better than him, therefore, he's being punished for reasons that have nothing to do with sports. And around we go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Ya know, if the best you got to complain about is a man's socks, isn't it time to give it a rest? From your post to the world of social justice clickbait journalists, one can only hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) scout/analyst from MMQB on espn today, was talking about what true scouts think about QBs. One of the biggest things they look for now is balls not thrown to open guys. Said its almost as bad as throwing picks. Top of the list for QBs who do this? Taylor Kaepernick very similar QBs. mobile, not pocket passers, cant read whole field, etc etc. much of the reason Kaep hasnt been signed isnt his political views, or the circus that follows. Its his play on the field. Should he have a job, sure, hes better than most backups, but u add what he brings on and off the field, understand why teams would be hesitant to sign him. PS. Dont shoot the messenger, just relaying what the scout/analyst said about Taylor and Kaep. Who was it? Spot on in both cases. Taylor last two years had me cussing a blue streak because someone would be open and he wouldn't throw. Now I think a lot of the time, it would be because he would roll out instead of stepping up into the pocket and finding a throwing lane. So far he is showing some improvement this year. Kaep, I remember watching the 2103 Superbowl and thinking "with a better QB SF wins this". Yeah, he left a lot on the field. I thought Kaep was better in 2016 and showed the promise he might improve under the right system, but it's exactly like McCoy said about Kaep and has been said about other players: it's the balance between the distraction and the play on the field. A superstar gets more latitude to bring in a positive cloud of distraction and controversy. A marginal player gets none. A backup or a guy who's sort of borderline talent wise, doesn't get too much. That's why Michael Sam didn't get much chance and why Kaep isn't. Imo Edited November 1, 2017 by Hapless Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I have the opinion that he's perfectly capable of playing in the NFL. I do not believe that every rostered QB is better than him, therefore, he's being punished for reasons that have nothing to do with sports. And around we go. He's not being punished. He's being avoided. Because he brings distraction to a unit that requires no distractions to be consistently successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Marv Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 He's not being punished. He's being avoided. Because he brings distraction to a unit that requires no distractions to be consistently successful. Because of the assumption that he'll bring distraction. He's been completely silent to the point that it's actually hurting his case. Any distraction at this point is assumed or manufactured elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) Because of the assumption that he'll bring distraction. He's been completely silent to the point that it's actually hurting his case. Any distraction at this point is assumed or manufactured elsewhere. So you think the moment Kaep is hired somewhere else, we're going to find that Kaep will be silent and the entire issue will drop? You think it's just an assumption that the entire social justice clickbait sports journalism world will refrain from asking questions about anything other than football? You don't think they'll shove a microphone in the face of every coach, every player until they find the one useful idiot who gives them the soundbite they need to move the story above the fold again? It's no longer just about Kaep. It's about what he brings, regardless of how quiet he, himself, will be. Edited November 1, 2017 by LABillzFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Arizona I am guessing. Lost Palmer and don't have a solution at QB. At least Kap could get a look see from the staff there. But, rumor has it that Ariens is decamping/retiring and I don't know what a tryout of 9 games with a lame duck staff does for Kap in the long run. I don't care about his views.....don't respect his method of showing them...but, if its about football, he might be the right option at the right price for that franchise at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 socks and a t-shirt. you're outraged over a man's socks and tshirt. clearly the man should never be able to work again... well you said respectful. Those aren't respectful. He has yet to have open dialogue or allow himself to be questioned on the conversation. He has yet to provide anything more than a PR'd document stating his phooey. I can hold my viewpoint. I can dislike him. The man has no right to work. He has every right to suffer the consequences of stupidity. As you likely realize, some times stupidity hurts in more than just one way. As I opined in another thread, there sure are a lot of furious white people watching the NFL.what's your point, Shirley? Easily fooled people as well. If Luther Strange was chosen in Alabama and/or Obamacare was replaced, we seriously wouldn't even be talking about this. and how are they fooled?Arizona I am guessing. Lost Palmer and don't have a solution at QB. At least Kap could get a look see from the staff there. But, rumor has it that Ariens is decamping/retiring and I don't know what a tryout of 9 games with a lame duck staff does for Kap in the long run. I don't care about his views.....don't respect his method of showing them...but, if its about football, he might be the right option at the right price for that franchise at this time.that could also be amazing. Didn't think about that. Arizona has a completely different offense and it's not easy to grasp. A mobile QB like Kaepernick has the opportunity to succeed there where he can run better than have to learn a playbook fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 All teams in our division need a QB in some capacity. Wondering any will take a stab? I think this response belongs in the OJ thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 well you said respectful. Those aren't respectful. He has yet to have open dialogue or allow himself to be questioned on the conversation. He has yet to provide anything more than a PR'd document stating his phooey. I can hold my viewpoint. I can dislike him. The man has no right to work. He has every right to suffer the consequences of stupidity. As you likely realize, some times stupidity hurts in more than just one way. what's your point, Shirley? and how are they fooled? that could also be amazing. Didn't think about that. Arizona has a completely different offense and it's not easy to grasp. A mobile QB like Kaepernick has the opportunity to succeed there where he can run better than have to learn a playbook fast The above bolded words are completely wrong. He has donated very generously to numerous organizations that do everything from helping the homeless, to education, after school programs, and on and on. The list is too numerous to write here. http://kaepernick7.com/million-dollar-pledge/ You can dislike him if you want. But, the active disdain for him in the media has far more to do with what others are saying about him (I would say for political expediency), and little to do with his own words, or actions. I think if more people actually knew the real story, he would not be so very controversial. If nothing else, he has very actively, and thoroughly put his money where his mouth is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Does he like winter sports? The CFL is calling eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 The above bolded words are completely wrong. He has donated very generously to numerous organizations that do everything from helping the homeless, to education, after school programs, and on and on. The list is too numerous to write here. http://kaepernick7.com/million-dollar-pledge/ You can dislike him if you want. But, the active disdain for him in the media has far more to do with what others are saying about him (I would say for political expediency), and little to do with his own words, or actions. I think if more people actually knew the real story, he would not be so very controversial. If nothing else, he has very actively, and thoroughly put his money where his mouth is. he did all of this once he started to catch flak. He did all.of this after the fact people got ahold of him and said he could start a non-profit, he could do many things to downplay his character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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