Nick the Greek Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Man I was hoping we play against him.me too.. but he isn't the Marshawn we all remember.. I think he's old and in the twilight of his career. Now that I've said that watch his suspension get thrown out and he will shred the Bills for 200 all purpose yards. Na.. that won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 Imo he hasn't made many friends in the league office over the years with his refusal to talk to the media at the Super Bowl, etc. so I don't think they will be quick to dismiss this punishment on appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Imo he hasn't made many friends in the league office over the years with his refusal to talk to the media at the Super Bowl, etc. so I don't think they will be quick to dismiss this punishment on appeal.he also aggressively and purposely grabbed the ref. It's not like it was an accidental bump, on top of the fact he ran onto the field from the sidelines. I don't think he has much of an argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Came off the bench Yeah, has this happened before where a player came off the bench/sidelines and pushed a ref? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 Yeah, has this happened before where a player came off the bench/sidelines and pushed a ref? i don't believe so, in fact I saw somewhere that there was only one incident of initentional contact with a ref at all and that was Orlando brown in 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 (edited) i don't believe so, in fact I saw somewhere that there was only one incident of initentional contact with a ref at all and that was Orlando brown in 1999.There was the vikes safety a few years back that was pulling guys off the pile and shoved a ref - tossed from the game but no suspension I definitely think it's an offense that warrants suspension but trying to give some alternate perspectives if the whole rooms going to settle on assuming marshawns attorney will be sitting silently Edited October 21, 2017 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 NFL brass has to be very conscious that this decision will be used going forward in evaluating players conduct when coming off the bench to aggressively antagonize an official Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 What's the basis for appeal, he blanked out and thought he was pushing a zebra? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 i don't believe so, in fact I saw somewhere that there was only one incident of initentional contact with a ref at all and that was Orlando brown in 1999. I was just thinking about him the other day, meant to Google him and see what he's been up to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 drop in the hat. he meant no harm to the ref. he did what at the heat of the moment he felt he had to do, was have somebody's back. I don't blame him. That's the problem with society today... and why he didn't serve jail time for a HIT AND RUN. Utterly ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 (edited) Im wondering.. are the Raiders better or worse without Marshawn? Or does it not matter. He hasnt really been having a great season before this happened. Edited October 21, 2017 by Idandria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 I hope he appeals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 I was just thinking about him the other day, meant to Google him and see what he's been up to. He's up to 6 feet below ground level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 ...insanity plea prolly works.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 He got two strikes against himself while he was here and a third would have meant a suspension for a whole year. He didn't do the Bills any favors for being an idiot. That's why the hate. Bull crap. Dumb Bills fans hate on all ex-Bills players who go on to have successful careers elsewhere in the NFL. Marshawn didn't ask to be traded. He got pushed out because the Bills figure that great RBs are a dime a dozen ... apparently just like DBs and WRs ... and, apparently, LTs now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 drop in the hat. he meant no harm to the ref. he did what at the heat of the moment he felt he had to do, was have somebody's back. I don't blame him. Excellent take. When acts like this lead to full blown fights on the field, will you be okay with that too? Lynch is a moron with absolutely no sense of right and wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Im wondering.. are the Raiders better or worse without Marshawn? Or does it not matter. He hasnt really been having a great season before this happened. Richard came in and looked better IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Bull crap. Dumb Bills fans hate on all ex-Bills players who go on to have successful careers elsewhere in the NFL. Marshawn didn't ask to be traded. He got pushed out because the Bills figure that great RBs are a dime a dozen ... apparently just like DBs and WRs ... and, apparently, LTs now. Not bull crap at all. He demanded Nix trade him and wanted out of Buffalo. This is also from the 2010 season... During the 2010 NFL season, Lynch was apparently so desperate to get out of Buffalo that he asked a few Packers players to do him a favor: Talk general manager Ted Thompson into working out a trade with the Bills. Not only did Lynch make the request, but he made it during a game against Green Bay in 2010, according to former Packers tight end Jermichael Finley. Finley brought up the story during an interview on the Two Deep NFL Podcast this week. As Finley explains it, Lynch came up to him and Aaron Rodgers during a Week 2 game that the Packers won, 34-7. "We were running off the field -- and this is when he was playing for the Bills -- it was halftime actually," Finley said. "Me and Rodgers were running to the locker room and Lynch hit us on the shoulder and said 'Tell Ted Thompson to come get me.'" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Bull crap. Dumb Bills fans hate on all ex-Bills players who go on to have successful careers elsewhere in the NFL. Marshawn didn't ask to be traded. He got pushed out because the Bills figure that great RBs are a dime a dozen ... apparently just like DBs and WRs ... and, apparently, LTs now. You should change your screen name to SoTear. 😢 He was a punk and is still a punk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 (edited) Bull crap. Dumb Bills fans hate on all ex-Bills players who go on to have successful careers elsewhere in the NFL. Marshawn didn't ask to be traded. He got pushed out because the Bills figure that great RBs are a dime a dozen ... apparently just like DBs and WRs ... and, apparently, LTs now.he had behavioral problems during his time in Buffalo, which eventually led to him getting suspended. This allowed Fred Jackson to step up and become the starter. Yea the Bills moved on from him and he did well in Seattle and got a ring. Maybe he just needed a change in scenery. He has not really been in trouble with the law since he went back out west. Maybe Buffalo was just a bad fit for him. Edited October 21, 2017 by Idandria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 (edited) Bull crap. Dumb Bills fans hate on all ex-Bills players who go on to have successful careers elsewhere in the NFL. Marshawn didn't ask to be traded. He got pushed out because the Bills figure that great RBs are a dime a dozen ... apparently just like DBs and WRs ... and, apparently, LTs now. Not bull crap at all. He demanded Nix trade him and wanted out of Buffalo. This is also from the 2010 season... Don't be so hard on the guy Judging from his level of knowledge and maturity, he was only six or seven when Lynch was a Bill. Edited October 21, 2017 by cd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 he had behavioral problems during his time in Buffalo, which eventually led to him getting suspended. This allowed Fred Jackson to step up and become the starter. Yea the Bills moved on from him and he did well in Seattle and got a ring. Maybe he just needed a change in scenery. He has not really been in trouble with the law since he went back out west. Maybe Buffalo was just a bad fit for him. His behavior here was fine. He got pushed out because he was not good. Freddy was one cut and down hill-- 5 yards at a time. And marshawn just danced around for like 2 yard carries, and an occasional highlight play. Just wasn't nearly as good as Fred. Once he got to seattle, I think he got some really good coaching and his running style really improved-- he became much more decisive and more north and south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 His behavior here was fine. He got pushed out because he was not good. Freddy was one cut and down hill-- 5 yards at a time. And marshawn just danced around for like 2 yard carries, and an occasional highlight play. Just wasn't nearly as good as Fred. Once he got to seattle, I think he got some really good coaching and his running style really improved-- he became much more decisive and more north and south. Bingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 His behavior here was fine. He got pushed out because he was not good. Freddy was one cut and down hill-- 5 yards at a time. And marshawn just danced around for like 2 yard carries, and an occasional highlight play. Just wasn't nearly as good as Fred. Once he got to seattle, I think he got some really good coaching and his running style really improved-- he became much more decisive and more north and south. Agreed. Although who knows how the coaching staff wanted Lynch to play. It seemed like they ran a lot of Dennison-like wide stretch runs, which Marshawn just wasn't suited for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Says no teammate of his ever. Are you guys seriously holding things against him years after the fact? Are you discarding all the good he has done for Oakland? Like working with kids in the city of Oakland for example? Sometimes (many times) I sense folks get bitter when Bills players leave. I wonder what you folks think of guys who have truly been toxic like Richie Incognito? Or does he get a pass because he's the best pulling guard in the league? I'm having trouble following the logic guys. Richie has been a model citizen since being in Buffalo. While in Buffalo, ML got away with hit and run drunk driving, also got busted for 3 gun misdemeanors, and wasn't even cited fir his illegal pot use in CA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 He's up to 6 feet below ground level. seriously? I don't even want to Google that to confirm. :Sad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 seriously? I don't even want to Google that to confirm. :Sad: seriously? I don't even want to Google that to confirm. :Sad: unfortunately life expectancy isn't long for guys--esp black guys--who are 6 7 and 400 LBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 (edited) unfortunately life expectancy isn't long for guys--esp black guys--who are 6 7 and 400 LBs According to Wiki, he died of diabetic ketoacidosis, an ailment common among diabetics caused by high blood sugar and lack of insulin... Edited October 21, 2017 by Lurker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 His behavior here was fine. He got pushed out because he was not good. Freddy was one cut and down hill-- 5 yards at a time. And marshawn just danced around for like 2 yard carries, and an occasional highlight play. Just wasn't nearly as good as Fred. Once he got to seattle, I think he got some really good coaching and his running style really improved-- he became much more decisive and more north and south. You seem to have forgotten how he showed up fat overweight and slow which also prompted the trade. He also missed 12 OTAs (yes I know what they are "voluntary") ML wanted out of Buffalo, anyone that doesn't remember that or chooses to ignore it fine by me. He disliked WNY and disliked being on the Bills at the end imo, going to Seattle rejuvenated his spirit, i credit that not NECESSARILY better coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 According to Wiki, he died of diabetic ketoacidosis, an ailment common among diabetics caused by high blood sugar and lack of insulin... not surprising...esp among African americans who are overweight.and made worse if medications aren't strictly followed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judman Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Hes changed. When he was here, it was hit and run. This incident was run and hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Hes changed. When he was here, it was hit and run. This incident was run and hit hehe--and maybe now he is handing out $20 bills instead of stealing them from kids half his size. what a guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 I like Marshawns' personality. He a funny guy but that's just me. Would I be upset if we don't go against him? Of course not. I personally liked Fred Jackson's running game better than Marshawns when they were on the field together anyway. I loved the whole Beast Mode thing and I loved the national media attention the Bills got because of Lynch (the positive attention I'm talking about oh and not "testing positive"). It sucked that he was beast mode in his time with is but then became a MONSTER with Seattle but hey, that wasn't his fault. It was our coaches. Marshawn is just a small example of how coaching plays such an important role in an NFL team. We have many examples on our team currently like Hyde, Porter, Alexander etc. who BECAUSE of our coaches have played the way they have. Not to switch subjects but since I dont post much I feel the need to add it here, but, that's one thing that has me excited to see how different the schemes on offense will look this week against Tampa. Sounds like the coaches who coach the offensive side of the ball have put their egos to the side and are willing to try different things. But yeah, I'm ok with not seeing Marshawn go against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 He disliked WNY and disliked being on the Bills at the end imo ML's a west coast kid through and through. Parochial, judgemental upstate NY was a bad fit--but that applies to most Bills who grew up in larger, more urban areas. Fat, drunk Canadian chicks stumbling around on Chippiwa might disagree, but I enjoyed Marshawn's time here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 If NFL gives him a pass on this you will see 25 refs get pushed after controversial calls next year. He should have got a 3 or 4 game suspension. Especially coming off the sidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 I was curious and googled penalties for touching referees -- vikes safety popped up (ejected not suspended though) And the rule book pops up with first offense as a fine: https://operations.nfl.com/football-ops/fines-appeals/ So, there may be some sort of answer from his lawyer. Depends on the points of the cba rules and precedents and the Nfl often steps outside of those. This is in the 2017 NFL rulebook Section-3, Article-1 (g) Unnecessary physical contact with a game official. Note 1: Under no circumstance is a player allowed to shove, push, or strike an official in an offensive, disrespectful, or unsportsmanlike manner. The player shall be disqualified from the game, and any such action must be reported to the Commissioner. Note 2: Two violations of (a), (b), or © (above) by the same player, which occur before or during the game, will result in disqualification in addition to the yardage penalty. Any violations at the game site on the day of the game, including postgame, may result in discipline by the Commissioner. Any violation of (g) above may result in disqualification and also will include discipline by the Commissioner. An official must see the entire action for a player to be disqualified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 ....he is Mr. Irrelevant......so who really cares anyway?.........2 carries for 9 yds before ejection and 266 yds for the season?.....quite the "force"...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 ....he should sign a long term deal with ISIS or MS-13.......good fit............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 ML's a west coast kid through and through. Parochial, judgemental upstate NY was a bad fit--but that applies to most Bills who grew up in larger, more urban areas. Fat, drunk Canadian chicks stumbling around on Chippiwa might disagree, but I enjoyed Marshawn's time here... he is a POS.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 he is a POS.. In a league filled with thugs, Marshawn is possibly the greatest of them all. Quite an accomplishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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