Tyrod Taylor held to higher standard bc he's black ?

[BurpleBull]

Wayne Arnold, on 16 Oct 2017 - 11:19 AM, said:

 

A few more stats you left out by mistake...

 

Sack Percentage:

 

11. Bortles - 5.6

14. Flacco - 6.1

20. Hoyer - 7.2

32. Taylor - 11.7

 

Passing yards per game:

 

24. Hoyer - 207.5

28. Taylor - 182.0

29. Bortles - 178.0

32. Flacco - 167.2

 

Touchdowns:

 

T14. Bortles - 8

T23. Taylor - 6

T27. Flacco - 4

T27. Hoyer - 4

 

 

I remember you from the BBMB, don't know if you remember my write-up on how the Bills should consider drafting Nathan Peterman. In it I stated many things that I felt Peterman was better at now than Taylor. His accuracy being one, followed by his pocket poise, and ability to go through his progressions. I want Peterman to get his chance but only under the right circumstances, injury or complete falloff in production by the offense, because despite the things Taylor struggles at ---including his tendency to take the sack---he's still reliable. Not perfect, but reliable and capable of doing enough to win games.

 

 

As far as passing yards, his Y/A is higher than Hoyer's so he'd have more yards if he passed as often.

 

 

 

Blake Bortles threw 4 of those 8 TDs in a game, that as far as I'm concerned, is fixed to promote the game globally. I've held to this belief ever since the Bills-Jags London game from a few years back.

 

That's really been Bortles only good game this season.

[Game Manager]

Jesus.....watch the part where his agent is talking about how he is "pitching him" because he did not want to play a position other then quarterback.

 

Game Im only gonna be able to take the water too you so much

How many black guys were drafted in the first round ?

 

Game over.

[John from Riverside]

How many black guys were drafted in the first round ?

 

Game over.

You are entirely missing my point

[Game Manager]

You are entirely missing my point

I think you're missing the point that short qb's always fall in the draft or go undrafted.

 

Cam went first. Why ? Because he's 6'5.

[buffalobloodfloridahome]

I think the fans in Buffalo look at the greatest QB's of all time Brady, Manning, Montana and see pocket passers that lead the teams to championships and they are envious of that. Having a 6 foot tall QB that can run fast and struggles to read defenses and rarely throws wrs open just does not instill confidence in our QB. I think his height is a bigger factor to him

 

JP Losman was white he was athletic out of Tulane and he had a huge arm but had the same problem. We are just sick of rooting for mediocrity.

 

On the other hand Flutie was short and extended plays and when the chips were down he could step up and make plays. Very Athletic even shorter but he was able to throw wrs open and read defenses.

 

We just wanna win and have a sustainable way to do it. Leaning on your defense to bail you out because your offense is almost non existent is not sustainable.

[John from Riverside]

I think you're missing the point that short qb's always fall in the draft or go undrafted.

 

Cam went first. Why ? Because he's 6'5.

And dalton went hire because? You realize he is not a tall qb

[GoBills808]

And dalton went hire because? You realize he is not a tall qb

Because his college resume was far superior.

[Gugny]

This conversation has turned stupid now. No offense. But enough with the height bull ****.

 

Good prospects get drafted early; not so good prospects get drafted late.

 

Sometimes early drafts suck; sometimes late drafts turn out great.

 

He was drafted accurately and all anyone expects from him is to do the things other NFL starting QBs can do; like read defenses, make up his mind, throw accurately, call audibles ... you know ... QB stuff.

 

He can't. Not because he's black. Because he's JUST. NOT. THAT. !@#$ING. GOOD.

 

 

~ fin

[Game Manager]

And dalton went hire because? You realize he is not a tall qb

Because he threw 50 Td's as a junior/senior and he's taller ?

[Royale with Cheese]

And dalton went hire because? You realize he is not a tall qb

 

Look at his last two years.

 

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/andy-dalton-1.html

Edited October 16, 2017 by Royale with Cheese

[DC Tom]

 

He was drafted accurately and all anyone expects from him is to do the things other NFL starting QBs can do; like read defenses, make up his mind, throw accurately, call audibles ... you know ... QB stuff.

 

 

All things that were considered concerns coming out of college...

[John from Riverside]

 

Look at his last two years.

 

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/andy-dalton-1.html

We are talking about when they were drafted and pro and cons of player at the time they were drafted

Because he threw 50 Td's as a junior/senior and he's taller ?

Dude...he is not THAT much taller....he is not proto type size for a QB

[section122]

I've waited before wading in these waters and will probably regret it....

 

There are many racist people in America and among Bills fans. I am glad so many here aren't racist but let's not pretend just because it isn't your reasoning doesn't mean it isn't anyone's reasoning. I agree with McFly that many people are so burnt out from losing that any QB would take the wrath. However the vitriol extended to TT is a bit over the top imo. I won't say it is because of his race but I have several times thought to myself that TT doesn't look like what many people want their qb to look like and that is their problem with him. Many people think only a traditional pocket passer can win in the league. TT relies on athleticism to supplement his passing skills which are lacking. If he didn't have those athletic skills he wouldn't be in the league. However he does possess those skills and he is in the league and is a middle of the road starter. He isn't a back up rb, he isn't a backup qb at best, he isn't the worst starter in the league. These comments often make me wonder about people's motivation but I don't concern myself with that. I can see how Tyrod perceives it to be because he is black. I can also see him feeling extra pressure as well. With the limited amount of black qbs maybe he feels extra pressure to be a role model to young qbs.

 

We aren't far removed from Rush Limbaugh's comments about Donovan McNabb.

 

It was just last year that Kaepernick singled out Buffalo as the worst place he visited last year with his treatment.

 

In a thread today someone labeled Teddy Bridgewater as mobile. He attributed it to a madden rating

 

NoSaint routinely brings up the Rockets GM and his insistence of comparing players across race. That is a GM for a professional league perhaps he has his pulse on pro sports more than message board jockeys?

 

I'm glad none of you are racist nor know of anyone who is racist but that isn't america today. People still are judged by the color of their skin. It is getting better but we still have a long way to go.

 

Lastly, I worked at a psych hosptial for children through my 20s and had a situation arise that has stuck with me to this day. A doctor was explaining to a mother all of the things she was doing wrong raising her child in the ghetto. She stopped him and not so politely explained to him that he had no idea what it was like to be her, live in her situation, be raised in her situation, or have to deal with what she has to deal with on a day to day basis. It isn't always as easy as "pulling yourself up by your boot straps" or to change from the only life you have known. So for everyone shouting down TT and stating why he is wrong and that you now hold a lower opinion of him, perhaps just perhaps, you have no idea what it is like to be him or what he is dealing with. Think about the nonsense you see publicly posted on twitter then imagine what is sent to him directly and privately. Just because you don't see it or agree with him doesn't make him wrong.

[Mat68]

What is the difference between Taylor and Flutie? Taylor is more accurate and a better deep ball.

[Royale with Cheese]

We are talking about when they were drafted and pro and cons of player at the time they were drafted

Dude...he is not THAT much taller....he is not proto type size for a QB

 

I know that. Dalton went higher because he was a better prospect. He did not have anywhere near the red flags as Taylor.

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

I've waited before wading in these waters and will probably regret it....

 

There are many racist people in America and among Bills fans. I am glad so many here aren't racist but let's not pretend just because it isn't your reasoning doesn't mean it isn't anyone's reasoning. I agree with McFly that many people are so burnt out from losing that any QB would take the wrath. However the vitriol extended to TT is a bit over the top imo. I won't say it is because of his race but I have several times thought to myself that TT doesn't look like what many people want their qb to look like and that is their problem with him. Many people think only a traditional pocket passer can win in the league. TT relies on athleticism to supplement his passing skills which are lacking. If he didn't have those athletic skills he wouldn't be in the league. However he does possess those skills and he is in the league and is a middle of the road starter. He isn't a back up rb, he isn't a backup qb at best, he isn't the worst starter in the league. These comments often make me wonder about people's motivation but I don't concern myself with that. I can see how Tyrod perceives it to be because he is black. I can also see him feeling extra pressure as well. With the limited amount of black qbs maybe he feels extra pressure to be a role model to young qbs.

 

We aren't far removed from Rush Limbaugh's comments about Donovan McNabb.

 

It was just last year that Kaepernick singled out Buffalo as the worst place he visited last year with his treatment.

 

In a thread today someone labeled Teddy Bridgewater as mobile. He attributed it to a madden rating

 

NoSaint routinely brings up the Rockets GM and his insistence of comparing players across race. That is a GM for a professional league perhaps he has his pulse on pro sports more than message board jockeys?

 

I'm glad none of you are racist nor know of anyone who is racist but that isn't america today. People still are judged by the color of their skin. It is getting better but we still have a long way to go.

 

Lastly, I worked at a psych hosptial for children through my 20s and had a situation arise that has stuck with me to this day. A doctor was explaining to a mother all of the things she was doing wrong raising her child in the ghetto. She stopped him and not so politely explained to him that he had no idea what it was like to be her, live in her situation, be raised in her situation, or have to deal with what she has to deal with on a day to day basis. It isn't always as easy as "pulling yourself up by your boot straps" or to change from the only life you have known. So for everyone shouting down TT and stating why he is wrong and that you now hold a lower opinion of him, perhaps just perhaps, you have no idea what it is like to be him or what he is dealing with. Think about the nonsense you see publicly posted on twitter then imagine what is sent to him directly and privately. Just because you don't see it or agree with him doesn't make him wrong.

 

 

excellent post.

[John from Riverside]

This conversation has turned stupid now. No offense. But enough with the height bull ****.

 

Good prospects get drafted early; not so good prospects get drafted late.

 

Sometimes early drafts suck; sometimes late drafts turn out great.

 

He was drafted accurately and all anyone expects from him is to do the things other NFL starting QBs can do; like read defenses, make up his mind, throw accurately, call audibles ... you know ... QB stuff.

 

He can't. Not because he's black. Because he's JUST. NOT. THAT. !@#$ING. GOOD.

 

 

~ fin

Personally I am not questioning where he was drafted.....Nathan Peterman was drafted in the 5th round and he may actually be a good qb in the end. I am trying to point out that Tyrod was greatly stereotyped coming out of college because of his extreme athletism

 

He HAS grown as a QB in his time as a backup to baltimore....if he was as bad as some make him out to be he would not have gotten an opportunity to start.

 

Maybe we do need better...but it should not take away from what he has actually accomplished and there are too many people trying to brush that aside.

 

That is all I am trying to say

[Wayne Arnold]

I've waited before wading in these waters and will probably regret it....

 

There are many racist people in America and among Bills fans. I am glad so many here aren't racist but let's not pretend just because it isn't your reasoning doesn't mean it isn't anyone's reasoning. I agree with McFly that many people are so burnt out from losing that any QB would take the wrath. However the vitriol extended to TT is a bit over the top imo. I won't say it is because of his race but I have several times thought to myself that TT doesn't look like what many people want their qb to look like and that is their problem with him. Many people think only a traditional pocket passer can win in the league. TT relies on athleticism to supplement his passing skills which are lacking. If he didn't have those athletic skills he wouldn't be in the league. However he does possess those skills and he is in the league and is a middle of the road starter. He isn't a back up rb, he isn't a backup qb at best, he isn't the worst starter in the league. These comments often make me wonder about people's motivation but I don't concern myself with that. I can see how Tyrod perceives it to be because he is black. I can also see him feeling extra pressure as well. With the limited amount of black qbs maybe he feels extra pressure to be a role model to young qbs.

 

We aren't far removed from Rush Limbaugh's comments about Donovan McNabb.

 

It was just last year that Kaepernick singled out Buffalo as the worst place he visited last year with his treatment.

 

In a thread today someone labeled Teddy Bridgewater as mobile. He attributed it to a madden rating

 

NoSaint routinely brings up the Rockets GM and his insistence of comparing players across race. That is a GM for a professional league perhaps he has his pulse on pro sports more than message board jockeys?

 

I'm glad none of you are racist nor know of anyone who is racist but that isn't america today. People still are judged by the color of their skin. It is getting better but we still have a long way to go.

 

Lastly, I worked at a psych hosptial for children through my 20s and had a situation arise that has stuck with me to this day. A doctor was explaining to a mother all of the things she was doing wrong raising her child in the ghetto. She stopped him and not so politely explained to him that he had no idea what it was like to be her, live in her situation, be raised in her situation, or have to deal with what she has to deal with on a day to day basis. It isn't always as easy as "pulling yourself up by your boot straps" or to change from the only life you have known. So for everyone shouting down TT and stating why he is wrong and that you now hold a lower opinion of him, perhaps just perhaps, you have no idea what it is like to be him or what he is dealing with. Think about the nonsense you see publicly posted on twitter then imagine what is sent to him directly and privately. Just because you don't see it or agree with him doesn't make him wrong.

 

Very well-stated, rational post. Thanks.

[DCBongo]

That is so silly. If TT was better QB, no one other than the true haters would be upset. When it comes to your football, the color of the skin does not matter - it's your play. When Kap was playing well and the 49ers went to the SB, I do not recall too many people being critical of him.

 

This is not to say there isn't racism in America, but I do think when it comes to sports, people want good performance and care less about the color of skin.

Edited October 16, 2017 by DCBongo

[BadLandsMeanie]

I am glad Tyrod spoke up about an issue that has been ignored and swept under the rug for too long.

 

The abuse heaped upon star athletes in our society.

 

It can start even before high school. Then in high school they are singled out, identified, forced to interact with cheerleaders and other icky girl people. For some it gets crueler still where they are made to sign letters binding them to colleges and then torn from their homes. When away from the safety of their family homes, they are subjected to more harassment from girl and women people, but now there is no escape and it can last all night long. They are also subjected to the horrors of perks from people calling themselves "boosters".

 

Thankfully the most tragic outcomes are uncommon. But poor Tyrod is one of those uncommon few. Tyrod Taylor is a starting quarterback in the NFL.

 

Will the nightmare never end for Tyrod??

 

Tyrod Taylor is more than an abuse survivor. Tyrod Taylor is Hero.

Edited October 16, 2017 by BadLandsMeanie

[John from Riverside]

I am glad Tyrod spoke up about an issue that has been ignored and swept under the rug for too long.

 

The abuse heaped upon star athletes in our society.

 

It can start even before high school. Then in high school they are singled out, identified, forced to interact with cheerleaders and other icky girl people. For some it gets crueler still where they are made to sign letters binding them to colleges and then torn from their homes. When away from the safety of their family homes, they are subjected to more harassment from girl and women people, but now there is no escape and it can last all night long. They are also subjected to the horrors of perks from people calling themselves "boosters".

 

Thankfully the most tragic outcomes are uncommon. But poor Tyrod is one of those uncommon few. Tyrod Taylor is a starting quarterback in the NFL.

 

Will the nightmare never end for Tyrod??

 

Tyrod Taylor is more than an abuse survivor. Tyrod Taylor is Hero.

If your not going to be a training camp reporter for us then your not allowed to give your opinion either dammit!

 

(Im kidding)

[section122]

 

This is not to say there isn't racism in America, but I do think when it comes to sports, people want good performance and care less about the color of skin.

 

We are 70 years removed from Jackie Robinson breaking the color barrier in baseball.

We are 63 years removed from Brown vs. Board of Education.

We are 54 years removed from "I have a dream." and "segregation today, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever"

 

91 million Americans are older than 54

 

So 91 million Americans were alive during a time when it was perfectly acceptable to discriminate based on the color of skin. It would be a broad (and ignorant) stroke to say they were all racist but imo it would be just as ignorant to pretend that some of these people don't still hold onto their racist ideals sports figure or not.

 

I think we as America are making a lot of progress and the further these events get away from current events the better off we will be but they aren't that far in our rear view.

[White Linen]

 

We are 70 years removed from Jackie Robinson breaking the color barrier in baseball.

We are 63 years removed from Brown vs. Board of Education.

We are 54 years removed from "I have a dream." and "segregation today, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever"

 

91 million Americans are older than 54

 

So 91 million Americans were alive during a time when it was perfectly acceptable to discriminate based on the color of skin. It would be a broad (and ignorant) stroke to say they were all racist but imo it would be just as ignorant to pretend that some of these people don't still hold onto their racist ideals sports figure or not.

 

I think we as America are making a lot of progress and the further these events get away from current events the better off we will be but they aren't that far in our rear view.

 

You're missing it. It won't go away so long as people perpetuate a false narrative. It's not about truth or if it's going to/is better. It's about making sure people hold on to their anger by people that benefit from the anger.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

what does a person have to do to get this thread locked?

Why this hasn't crossed into PPP realm ???

[RyanC883]

Tyord: Alex Smith would like to know why he is also called a "game manager" and routinely criticized. Is he black?

[Greybeard]

Does Taylor have cause to feel frustrated how his performance is perceived? I'd say yes, but for a variety of reasons. But leaving aside the question of race in that, one general observation on black athletes :

 

They seem to have an easier time embodying any number of undesirable traits - such as "selfish" or "arrogant" or "obnoxious" - than their white peers. Given human nature, that sorta thing is never far off - so it's a bit unfair black athletes appear to have an inside track. My favorite example is "thug". I've see that term thrown around a lot in sports talk, but can't ever remember a white "thug". A few year back Virginia Tech had a very-white (honest-to-god) "thug" kicker. But I don't think anyone ever called him that.......

 

 

 

A few years back a white basketball player on the Syracuse team was called a thug. Maybe not in the newspapers but I heard several fans call him that.

Edited October 16, 2017 by Greybeard

[DC Tom]

At this point, I'll just be racist.

 

Only because I keep being told I'm racist, and I'm so goddamn tired of arguing that hating blacks is just easier.

[BadLandsMeanie]

At this point, I'll just be racist.

 

Only because I keep being told I'm racist, and I'm so goddamn tired of arguing that hating blacks is just easier.

That's the funniest thing I have read all day. But I am not sure if I am allowed to laugh.

[CardinalScotts]

I can honestly say I've never thought about him being a "black" quarterback. He does some good thing and some bad things not a franchise guy but without a doubt gives us the best chance to win. I'm not blind I also see one playmaker in McCoy. I think we lose reality of what qb play is in the NFL right now our comparison is to hall of fame quarterbacks. seriously? thats the bar?

 

Rothlisber with Bryant and Brown hasnt cracked 300 yds in 11 games- why not ?

[boyst]

This conversation has turned stupid now. No offense. But enough with the height bull ****.

 

Good prospects get drafted early; not so good prospects get drafted late.

 

Sometimes early drafts suck; sometimes late drafts turn out great.

 

He was drafted accurately and all anyone expects from him is to do the things other NFL starting QBs can do; like read defenses, make up his mind, throw accurately, call audibles ... you know ... QB stuff.

 

He can't. Not because he's black. Because he's JUST. NOT. THAT. !@#$ING. GOOD.

 

 

~ fin

of course you would be upset I talking about height

[Rob's House]

I am glad Tyrod spoke up about an issue that has been ignored and swept under the rug for too long.

 

The abuse heaped upon star athletes in our society.

 

It can start even before high school. Then in high school they are singled out, identified, forced to interact with cheerleaders and other icky girl people. For some it gets crueler still where they are made to sign letters binding them to colleges and then torn from their homes. When away from the safety of their family homes, they are subjected to more harassment from girl and women people, but now there is no escape and it can last all night long. They are also subjected to the horrors of perks from people calling themselves "boosters".

 

Thankfully the most tragic outcomes are uncommon. But poor Tyrod is one of those uncommon few. Tyrod Taylor is a starting quarterback in the NFL.

 

Will the nightmare never end for Tyrod??

 

Tyrod Taylor is more than an abuse survivor. Tyrod Taylor is Hero.

[SoCal Deek]

Wait! Tyrod is black? I hadn't noticed. (Note to self....get a new TV.)

[Rob's House]

 

We are 70 years removed from Jackie Robinson breaking the color barrier in baseball.

We are 63 years removed from Brown vs. Board of Education.

We are 54 years removed from "I have a dream." and "segregation today, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever"

 

91 million Americans are older than 54

 

So 91 million Americans were alive during a time when it was perfectly acceptable to discriminate based on the color of skin. It would be a broad (and ignorant) stroke to say they were all racist but imo it would be just as ignorant to pretend that some of these people don't still hold onto their racist ideals sports figure or not.

 

I think we as America are making a lot of progress and the further these events get away from current events the better off we will be but they aren't that far in our rear view.

There's a big difference between a handful of randos having an opinion and having systemic institutionalized discriminatory racism. If he's lying awake at night because a few senior citizens and some internet trolls have racist opinions he should grow a sack.

[John from Riverside]

At this point, I'll just be racist.

 

Only because I keep being told I'm racist, and I'm so goddamn tired of arguing that hating blacks is just easier.

I did chuckle a bit at this.....maybe im just a bad person

[CardinalScotts]

unfair standard from the Buffalo News? Without a doubt yes - the main reason is football knowledge is essentially not there. Bucky Gleason and Jerry Sullivan are going to set me straight? Good lord.... He's not a traditional quarterback and they can't figure out how to look at him. Takes knowledge why things don't work, what the defense is able to do etc. Not a clue nor do they have any interest in trying to find out. Cover one / Locked on Bills does a great job for the Bills fans with half a brain. Those without any brain Jerry, Bucky, Nick, Sal M, those are your guys !!

[section122]

I can honestly say I've never thought about him being a "black" quarterback. He does some good thing and some bad things not a franchise guy but without a doubt gives us the best chance to win. I'm not blind I also see one playmaker in McCoy. I think we lose reality of what qb play is in the NFL right now our comparison is to hall of fame quarterbacks. seriously? thats the bar?

 

Rothlisber with Bryant and Brown hasnt cracked 300 yds in 11 games- why not ?

 

I have been on this train for a while now. Brady has skewed all of our vision of what is necessary to win. Other teams in every other division in the NFL can have down years and still sneak into the playoffs. Other teams can get subpar qb play and still be a competitive team. Subpar QB play or play on the level of TT is very much the norm in the NFL. Only the Patriots bring it every single freaking game.

 

Just this season:

 

Big Ben has had a 5 int game, has thrown for 300 yards once and it took 55 attempts to do so, and Steelers lost to Jags and Bears

 

Cam Newton already has 2 games with 3 ints, 2 games completing less than 60%, and 2 games scoring 13 or less points

 

Eli has 1 game over 300 yards and it 47 attempts to do so. In fact in their only win he had 128 passing yards and less than 60% completion.

 

Russel Wilson has 3 games out of 5 with 5.85 ypa or worse, also 3 games out of 5 with less than 200 yards passing and sub 60% completions

 

Dak Prescott has less than 270 yards passing in every game and a lower ypa than TT

 

Phillip Rivers has 2 games with 50% or lower completions and 3 games sub 6 ypa,

 

Drew Brees has only broken 300 yards passing once.

 

Many members on this board admitted to only watching Bills games yet offer opinions of what a qb should be. Look at the thread about what games people will watch during the Bills bye. Those same members however are convinced that TT is terrible. It's the Brady effect since we "get" to see him twice a year. Most qbs are erratic, every qb misses throws, every qb has bad games/stretches in games. It isn't racism it is offering an uninformed opinion.

There's a big difference between a handful of randos having an opinion and having systemic institutionalized discriminatory racism. If he's lying awake at night because a few senior citizens and some internet trolls have racist opinions he should grow a sack.

 

 

I'm sorry you will forever be the guy who was upset because he didn't know how to explain to his kid 2 people of the same sex kissing in public. It is hard to discuss this topic with you without thinking about that. My post was simply to draw attention to the fact that we are not that far off from systemic institutionalized discriminatory racism and to pretend that in just 50 years it has vanished is naive at best imo.

[BeginnersMind]

What is the difference between Taylor and Flutie? Taylor is more accurate and a better deep ball.

 

And a better runner. And threw fewer interceptions.

 

Neither one was that good, but Flutie was a worse QB. Yet beloved by many.

 

Observe the white people's player jerseys at an NFL game. At a Bills game, you'll see more Alonzo, Spielman, Poz, Paup, Incognito (who outsells Tyrod!) etc than would be warranted given their tenure and quality. There's a reason for that. That's not a situation unique to Buffalo--go to Denver and join the Ed McCaffrey parade into Mile High.

Edited October 16, 2017 by BeginnersMind

[section122]

 

A few years back a white basketball player on the Syracuse team was called a thug. Maybe not in the newspapers but I heard several fans call him that.

 

Eric Devendorf I believe

Edited October 16, 2017 by section122

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

 

And a better runner. And threw fewer interceptions.

 

Neither one was that good, but Flutie was a worse QB. Yet beloved by many.

 

Observe the white people's player jerseys at an NFL game. At a Bills game, you'll see more Alonzo, Spielman, Paup, etc than would be warranted given their tenure and quality. There's a reason for that.

 

#raysisbehindeveryjersey

[BeginnersMind]

 

#raysisbehindeveryjersey

 

For some perhaps, and for others merely bias. And many others, it doesn't matter. The point is that it does matter to enough that it makes a difference. Taylor feels it and of course it's real.

 

That doesn't mean he hasn't earned the criticism he gets.

 

But most people outside Buffalo see a guy with 3 penguins for wide receivers giving it his all to grind out improbable wins. Hard not to like a guy like that. And yet the fan base is calling for Nate Peterman because he's going to transform Andre Holmes into Jerry Rice.

Edited October 16, 2017 by BeginnersMind