BillsFan4 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I couldn't disagree with this thread any more than I do. McDermott was not even on my list of alarming things about this game. He has this defense playing very well already, and he doesn't have all that much talent at some key positions. I have been very encouraged by McDermott so far. The offense was by far the most alarming thing today. This is a terrible thread, IMO. For three reasons: 1) we didn't lose because of clock management; it played actually no role whatsoever in the outcome of the game and so I don't get why this is a complaint. 2) in hindsight, the clock was actually managed correctly. If Zay catches that ball, we call TO and then easily have 3 Shots at the end zone while giving the panthers no chance to get the ball back. 3) if you can't appreciate how well coached the D was out there today and on the road, you are missing what coaching is all about. The game management stuff comes with experience; the fundamental coaching doesn't. Good,post. Agree for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 This is a terrible thread, IMO. For three reasons: 1) we didn't lose because of clock management; it played actually no role whatsoever in the outcome of the game and so I don't get why this is a complaint. 2) in hindsight, the clock was actually managed correctly. If Zay catches that ball, we call TO and then easily have 3 Shots at the end zone while giving the panthers no chance to get the ball back. 3) if you can't appreciate how well coached the D was out there today and on the road, you are missing what coaching is all about. The game management stuff comes with experience; the fundamental coaching doesn't. I agree. zero offense is the only issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I couldn't disagree with this thread any more than I do. McDermott was not even on my list of alarming things about this game. He has this defense playing very well already, and he doesn't have all that much talent at some key positions. I have been very encouraged by McDermott so far. The offense was by far the most alarming thing today. Good,post. Agree for the most part. I'm 100% with you, other than not calling a timeout sooner at the end he had this team ready to play and to play hard. This loss is on the OC and Tyrod as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Wait... This is hilarious. By your logic, there would never be new coaches. We'd need to resurrect Vince Lombardi and that guy who used the word "matriculating." It took Lombardi several years of coaching before he won Super Bowl I. He clearly was terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) Coaches look so much better at game management when their QB's are better, just saying... If Tyrod throws a better ball there, Bills win by one point and there is no time left for the Panthers to do anything. Edited September 17, 2017 by T-Bomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 The TO's are less of an issue than Tyrod scrambling, getting nowhere, and using up clock instead of throwing the ball away. i was absolutely SCREAMING this in my house! this was the breaking point. even if he is worse, i am ready for peterman. just run the offense. tyrod is best at scrambling and launching down field. peterman makes the quick decision. put in the rook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 We knew/know this is what Tyrod is. We knew this wasn't going to be a good offense. But I think we were hoping we finally had a coach that could manage the game properly. Clock management by McDermott was absolutely embarrassing. And I don't want to hear about how he's a rookie head coach, he's been around this game. He himself said he's been preparing for this for a long time. It's a tough reality to face that we have yet another head coach who has no idea how to manage the game. Getting high picks; Trust The Process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Getting high picks; Trust The Process. And not have enough ammo to move up to get a real qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 And not have enough ammo to move up to get a real qb. Are you gonna cry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 i was absolutely SCREAMING this in my house! this was the breaking point. even if he is worse, i am ready for peterman. just run the offense. tyrod is best at scrambling and launching down field. peterman makes the quick decision. put in the rook. So when Peterman doesn't put up 400 yards and 6 TDs in his first game, who do you want in for week 4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 2nd game ever as a head coach. 1st game on the road. Classic Bills fans overreacting. I actually blame Tyrod more for poor clock management at the end of the game. He needs to throw the ball away. McDermott was actually SMART to save the 2 timeouts. If Zay catches the ball it wouldn't be a TD, we would have needed a TO to have 2 shots at the end zone with about 9 seconds left on the clock. McDermott didn't do anything wrong in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I actually blame Tyrod more for poor clock management at the end of the game. BINGO! Why are so many Bills fans so stupid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 So when Peterman doesn't put up 400 yards and 6 TDs in his first game, who do you want in for week 4? peterman. i just think he is closer to what they want as a qb. quick, decisive throws. if he succeeds, then it is found money. if not, then we continue the process and get our guy next year while grinding out this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Are you gonna cry? Haha. The Bills haven't made me cry since I was 10. They are depressingly funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 We knew/know this is what Tyrod is. We knew this wasn't going to be a good offense. But I think we were hoping we finally had a coach that could manage the game properly. Clock management by McDermott was absolutely embarrassing. And I don't want to hear about how he's a rookie head coach, he's been around this game. He himself said he's been preparing for this for a long time. It's a tough reality to face that we have yet another head coach who has no idea how to manage the game. Nevermind the poor game management concerns... Management and coaching know what Tyrod is better than you and I do! He's terrible! And they are OK with him as our starter this year and they even doubled down by getting rid of Watkins. We're in a tank year more than I at first realized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Agreed. I am extremely encouraged by McDermott so far. This team looks organized, plays really hard, and does not beat itself with mistakes. And that was a great performance by the defense. I was a little disappointed by the hire at first, didn't see anything special on his resume. But I've come around, I think the Pegula's really got it right this time. Former DC comes in and the defense turns it around immediately. Players are playing with heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Yes, the HC that kept Carolina to 3 points (and no TDs) is ALARMING! Time management was an issue, but he'll learn. And comparing the emotions of a real game to Madden is just silly, IMO. Can't wait to see where this thread goes... o_O He will learn???? You don't pay him the big money to learn. You pay him to do. If he can't do it he should have Dennison managing the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Maybe clock management would be better if tyrod wouldnt scramble for 3 yards every other play when you are trying to conserve time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 This is a terrible thread, IMO. For three reasons: 1) we didn't lose because of clock management; it played actually no role whatsoever in the outcome of the game and so I don't get why this is a complaint. 2) in hindsight, the clock was actually managed correctly. If Zay catches that ball, we call TO and then easily have 3 Shots at the end zone while giving the panthers no chance to get the ball back. 3) if you can't appreciate how well coached the D was out there today and on the road, you are missing what coaching is all about. The game management stuff comes with experience; the fundamental coaching doesn't. Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 wow, game #2 and he's already dead. This board is a ghost of what it used to be. What a wonderful first post. Sure to be a solid contributor here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 McDermott coached his butt off and our team played great. Can't believe people are shocked we couldn't move the ball against that D in their house. We are a work in progress, but full of promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 McDermott coached his butt off and our team played great. Can't believe people are shocked we couldn't move the ball against that D in their house. We are a work in progress, but full of promise. Maybe most of the posters here are instant gratification millennials. They should be proud the Bills got their participation trophy today and stop whining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 McDermott coached his butt off and our team played great. Can't believe people are shocked we couldn't move the ball against that D in their house. We are a work in progress, but full of promise. We're the 2nd oldest team in the league. We shouldn't be a work in progress. Clock management isn't the only worrisome thing about the new coach or GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 We're the 2nd oldest team in the league. We shouldn't be a work in progress. Clock management isn't the only worrisome thing about the new coach or GM. I guess if you're that worried you could take a break from the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 We knew/know this is what Tyrod is. We knew this wasn't going to be a good offense. But I think we were hoping we finally had a coach that could manage the game properly. Clock management by McDermott was absolutely embarrassing. And I don't want to hear about how he's a rookie head coach, he's been around this game. He himself said he's been preparing for this for a long time. It's a tough reality to face that we have yet another head coach who has no idea how to manage the game. I see only Jones gets a pass today for being a rookie? i know Jones is brand new to football........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 If they make that play to Zay, they still have a TO and chances to score. This was not the worst time management we've seen and doesn't raise any red flags for me, yet. I don't know what the most concerning thing is, actually... Maybe that makes it time management by default... They lost about 15 secs in not calling timeout after one play (Tyrod scramble?). If there was more time on the clock, they wouldn't have had to go for broke on the last play instead of just getting a first down. The clock management to end the 1st half was also puzzling. They let time run off, then called a timeout after 2nd down, then called another after 3rd down to force Carolina to punt to get the ball back. Then they call a run to run out the clock? Why did they bother? Did McD just want to use up his 1st half timeouts? Were they just trying to block the punt, which they had come close to a couple of times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I guess if you're that worried you could take a break from the Bills. What are you, my life coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 So, critiques of games must be confined to only those things that actually "lost" the game for us? Bullschit. McD made two glaring clock management mistakes and looked confused doing so and that's an important thing to look at moving forward. It's just too important an aspect of the game to not hold him accountable for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) This was a piss poor display by the coaching staff. Reminds me of the Rex days as far as clock management goes. The team did play some disciplined football today though and the defense was lights out. Hopefully they can correct the easy things. Edited September 17, 2017 by RaoulDuke79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 We held Carolina to 9 points and McDermott is the problem? Hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Kaelin Clay. Why was he activated today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 We held Carolina to 9 points and McDermott is the problem? Hilarious. He's the head coach. He's responsible for the offense, defense and personnel decisions. So if the offense is crippled for whatever reason, he's accountable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 you can create threads with one post? I beg my Supervisor to beat them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Every HC gets his first HC job at some point. Should have used his timeouts a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 What are you, my life coach? I can be if you'd like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I 100 percent agree. He was terrible today on so many levels. Seeing him clap on the field after every bad play reminded me of dick jauron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) He saved the time out so Tyrod could use the whole field to get the first down. This didn't cost us the game. It wasn't the wrong call. Edited September 17, 2017 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 He was smart enough to have time outs available with 2 min. left, but dumb enough to not know when to use them. With 43 seconds he should have used that 1st time out and didn't? What if Zay makes that circus catch from the crap TT throw. We have only time for 1 play. For some reason I felt Sean McDermott would be a better time management head coach but apparently he's got a ways to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 The team was finally moving and maybe even gassing the Panthers D a little. You're moving the ball, don't stop and give the opponent time to get their breath or make substitutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Never a good idea to come on after a loss. Better to wait for the beer and testosterone to go away... I disagree. Just know what to expect and get your popcorn ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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