YoloinOhio Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) "Calvin Johnson Confirms He Retired Because the Lions Were Hopeless" http://thebiglead.com/2017/07/12/calvin-johnson-confirms-he-retired-because-the-lions-were-hopeless/ He was "stuck" in his contract with the Lions "It wasn't worth my time to keep on beating my head against the wall" Edited July 12, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 He went the Barry Sanders route. I don't blame him, but, I see why some fans here worry about people not wanting to play here or stay here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Same things Barry Sanders did. The Lions ruin great players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 And then the Lions got better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Eric Moulds Aaron Schobel Takes Spikes Bills waste great players too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 But, if he truly felt like he could still produce and wanted to play, then force a trade. Everything is negotiable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Lions were better without him so that's a tough sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 how can you fault a guy for wanting to hang'em up a little early, rather than too late? these guys know what's waiting for them if they hang around too long. and, for the record, the idea that the lions were better off without him is laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 @corryjoel If Calvin Johnson really wanted out of Detroit, he should've played out his rookie contract. Lions weren't franchising him for $25M in 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCD Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Did you just compare these fellas to Megatron? Eric MouldsAaron SchobelTakes SpikesBills waste great players too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Basically confirming what we already knew... There is one organization worse than we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Did you just compare these fellas to Megatron? Good. That post left me speechless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 @corryjoel If Calvin Johnson really wanted out of Detroit, he should've played out his rookie contract. Lions weren't franchising him for $25M in 2013. This. He didn't have to sign that contract extension CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamsnoops Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) He could come back and still be a top 10 maybe 5 WR in the NFL! Of course he would still be under contract with the LIONS! Edited July 12, 2017 by snamsnoops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 This. He didn't have to sign that contract extension CBF True. But the Lions made the playoffs right before he signed the extension. Maybe he was feeling a little better about the franchise at the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 And then the Lions got better... But not by much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Eric Moulds Aaron Schobel Takes Spikes Bills waste great players too Did you just compare these fellas to Megatron? Good. That post left me speechless. No. He compared those players to Calvin Johnson AND Barry Sanders..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 but Srafford has a lot of yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 The Bills are already in that position if not worse. They better hope they get lucky at some point here to stop the cycle or all they're going to have is rookies, rent-a-veterans...and over the hill, play out their contract guys. I'm praying that 2017 is the year the blind squirrel finds that nut!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 I'm thinking that the best thing that can happen for the long term success of the Bills is for Tyrod to figure it out under a new scheme in 2017. They simply have to stabilize that roster spot...or it will be years before a Rookie gets his act together in a meaningful way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBud420 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 I'm thinking that the best thing that can happen for the long term success of the Bills is for Tyrod to figure it out under a new scheme in 2017. They simply have to stabilize that roster spot...or it will be years before a Rookie gets his act together in a meaningful way. Tyrod sucks. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 The Bills are dangerously close if not already at the Lions state of hopelessness and irrelevance. The Pegula's get more time as owners as they just put in their GM and coach. However, if an answer is not found at QB soon the Bills will be nothing more than a practice game for the cheats* twice a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 He went the Barry Sanders route. I don't blame him, but, I see why some fans here worry about people not wanting to play here or stay here. ....exactly.....if your personal finances/investments say you can survive without football, why not?....FA means potential to uproot your family/kids, start over elsewhere, wonder how long before you get cut as you age or a potentially nomadic life.....sad to see Barry go but cannot blame him.....he left with his health so far....ditto for Johnson IMO......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Well isn't Calvin Johnson a great role model. When life doesn't go your way, just quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 He went the Barry Sanders route. I don't blame him, but, I see why some fans here worry about people not wanting to play here or stay here. There is a difference, at one time we were THE team in the AFC. We won all the time, playoffs were just a thing that happened every year and superbowl was a real possibility. It will take getting there again with draft picks and I believe we can. The lions for decades (outside of their QB) have sucked at drafting. Plus who wants to live in a city that is half shut down? Detroit is disgusting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 There is a difference, at one time we were THE team in the AFC. We won all the time, playoffs were just a thing that happened every year and superbowl was a real possibility. It will take getting there again with draft picks and I believe we can. The lions for decades (outside of their QB) have sucked at drafting. Plus who wants to live in a city that is half shut down? Detroit is disgusting Football players don't have to live in the city where they play during the offseason. Johnson made enough money to get out of Detroit any chance he wanted. It's not as if Detroit doesn't have wealthy suburbs either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Basically confirming what we already knew... There is one organization worse than we are. Two. Browns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grb Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Well isn't Calvin Johnson a great role model. When life doesn't go your way, just quit. Of course the other side of the coin is this : Suppose you were financially set for life and didn't enjoy your job anymore? What would you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Well isn't Calvin Johnson a great role model. When life doesn't go your way, just quit. Framed another way: don't waste your life being miserable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 True. But the Lions made the playoffs right before he signed the extension. Maybe he was feeling a little better about the franchise at the time? If he wasn't already very wealthy then he would have felt much better about the lions. Was it a factor? Sure. Was it *the* reason? No way. He would have worked with them or demanded a trade to a contender in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Of course the other side of the coin is this : Suppose you were financially set for life and didn't enjoy your job anymore? What would you do? I understand. I just know that a lot of hall of famers played on losing teams their entire careers. Of course every competitive athlete wants to win, but some guys love the game too much to quit. Johnson must be wired differently than some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Two. Browns Yep. Both have never been to a SB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Eric Moulds Aaron Schobel Takes Spikes Bills waste great players too yeah none of those players where great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Well isn't Calvin Johnson a great role model. When life doesn't go your way, just quit. Why would he stay and risk further damage to his health for no reason... I don't fault him one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 I understand. I just know that a lot of hall of famers played on losing teams their entire careers. Of course every competitive athlete wants to win, but some guys love the game too much to quit. Johnson must be wired differently than some. A few distinctions-- With at most very limited exceptions I'd guess his last contract was worth more than almost all those guys career earnings combined He has access to better medical information than any that came before him To be totally honest- I sometimes wonder if the guys that hang on past the point of being reasonable are just as much fear of leaving as love of staying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 A few distinctions-- With at most very limited exceptions I'd guess his last contract was worth more than almost all those guys career earnings combined He has access to better medical information than any that came before him To be totally honest- I sometimes wonder if the guys that hang on past the point of being reasonable are just as much fear of leaving as love of staying I'm not going to bash Johnson for his decision to retire. I just think that some guys are wired to love the game too much to walk away. It's hard to walk away from something you love, no matter how harmful it may be to oneself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 yeah none of those players where great Eric Moulds was. He was phenomenal. God what he could have done with decent QBs throughout his career... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Franklin Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) Eric Moulds was. He was phenomenal. God what he could have done with decent QBs throughout his career... He was good. Amani Toomer level. Buffalo is jacked on him because he was the only bright spot on a lot of blah team's. Mounds had tremendous physicality and athleticism. Good speed. Average to below hands. At a league wide level, he was top ten in his era. Schoebel had good stats but no one missed him when he left. Spikes about the same. Losses but not huge. Edited July 13, 2017 by Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 No. He compared those players to Calvin Johnson AND Barry Sanders..... Does my post suggest I compared these players? The point of the post was that Buffalo wasted talent as much or more than Detroit has. The sad part is those are the three best players I could think of in almost 15 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Does my post suggest I compared these players? The point of the post was that Buffalo wasted talent as much or more than Detroit has. The sad part is those are the three best players I could think of in almost 15 years. If those were the best three, I guess you could actually say that we haven't wasted that much talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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