wppete Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Changing captains was so stupid. Never heard of that before. Rex will never be a HC in the NFL again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Refreshing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 This sounds like a really good thing. But without knowing who's on it and how it works, who knows? Â And regards to Sammy... I can see how he plays and I know what he says to the media. That's it. I have no idea what kind of influence he has on the sidelines, on the practice field, in the weight room or locker room. So I have no idea if he should be on the Leadership Council. Watkins has made several comments about a lack of leadership under Rex and guys stepping up, including himself. So Sammy has that desire to be more than just a great WR on the field. He truly sounds like he wants this team to win and be a leader in the locker room. I think the injuries have frustrated him but I love his desire to be a leader, if he stays healthy , he's the total package. Â And it's well known that Taylor demands the respect of the rest of the offense, many teammates have publicly stated this. These things matter , it takes more than talent to win in this league. Â Man, how can you not be impressed by McD so far, I have a Gut feeling he proves to be a steal and a coach for a very long time here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Quick! Someone find a reason to mock this. We could have a mock vote for Leadership Council. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Watkins has made several comments about a lack of leadership under Rex and guys stepping up, including himself. So Sammy has that desire to be more than just a great WR on the field. He truly sounds like he wants this team to win and be a leader in the locker room. I think the injuries have frustrated him but I love his desire to be a leader, if he stays healthy , he's the total package. Â And it's well known that Taylor demands the respect of the rest of the offense, many teammates have publicly stated this. These things matter , it takes more than talent to win in this league. Â Man, how can you not be impressed by McD so far, I have a Gut feeling he proves to be a steal and a coach for a very long time here... I'm very impressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 This is a good idea. I also don't want to give McDermott more credit than is due just because he is not making the same mistakes as Ryan. Still, I like this. Â Re: Watkins, no. I have not seen the maturity necessary to be a leader. Talent =/= leadership. To echo what has been said -- show me. Â Taylor? Yes. He has proven in less time than Watkins that he is a leader of men. By example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Obviously  Listening to Lorax speak right now... he's pretty inspiring and exactly what I would want around young playersMcD also mentioned they had a Leadership Council in CarolinaI believe Marrone had one here (if I recall correctly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Every coaching staff there is some kind of news like this. Change the locker room, change the culture....way easier said than done. Show me the playoffs or its just noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 *yawn.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 As evidenced by their deep playoff run.... Â Â Â Listen, anytime we can get Fitzy to be another teams QB, especially in the division, it's good for the Bills. So you think Geno was going to throw for more than 3,900 yards and 31 TDs en route to the playoffs? That's more TD's than he's thrown in his entire career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 The Stadium Wall Leadership Council: Yolo No Saint Bandit Beerball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 How cute... Pretty sure his punch improved their QB play for 2015. We could have a mock vote for Leadership Council. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I'm very impressed  all systems go, just don't demand an 11-5 or better season too soon from the team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Really more interested if HE can coach on Sundays. Nice to have a quality human being/refreshing as HC but we need to hold the brakes just a little about his coaching decisions. Hiring of Leslie "Bend but don't break" Frazier doesn't inspire me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Under Rex:  Discipline issues among players (not on time, sleeping, etc.) Lack of work ethic from the head coach Poor execution of the basics -- knowing alignments, getting plays in on time, etc Despite this lack of foundation -- a cocky arrogance Under McD: Player friendly but also player driven Attention to detail Great work ethic from the coaching staff Humility Focus on the fundamentals - coaches prepared, player discipline, blocking and tackling, maximum effort Give me McD--I like what we are seeing......but all that matters are the W's.... Rex was loved but not respected...Players don't work hard when they don't respect the leader. "Under McD" Sounds great. How on earth did you dig up so much info on a guy that has coached zero games as a HC? Besides the obligatory he is well respected in the league? He seems certainly different than the past few bozos. But I will wait until the end of the season too heap unearned praise though.  #passthekoolaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Â @buffalobills Kyle Williams: "McDermott inspired and breathed life into me with his vision. With guys like me who have been around a lot, that's exciting. Â Â If he is healthy extend him another year. So with all those that screwed off this last year, I wonder how many get benched or flat out cut? And I wonder if he is going to put up with Dareus giving half and effort in half the games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Some of us are old-time, snakebitten Bills fans. Our optimism is of the cautious variety. Â McD seems to be saying and doing a lot of good things. But until we see wins getting posted faster than losses, we withhold our stamp of approval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 So you think Geno was going to throw for more than 3,900 yards and 31 TDs en route to the playoffs? That's more TD's than he's thrown in his entire career. LOL, god no. But the JETS not knowing means that they maybe focus or invest a little less in the QB position while he's still on the team. Anything to perpetuate the terribleness that is their current QB situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Does the leadership council answer to Whaley or McD, or Pegs? Â But really, its a good idea. After hurricane Rex swept through with a storm of goofs, gluttony, unaccountablity, poor planning, poor execution, etc, I think the team is ready for more structure. Â At the end of the day, trusting your players judgment is important, but just letting everyone do whatever they want didnt work with this team. Â The leadership council will answer to Khaleesi and her 3 Dragons of course.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I feel like this people who never played organized sports are the ones who think chemistry and culture don't matter, when it actually is essential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Refreshing! Everything I've seen about McD has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Everything I've seen about McD has been. ....agree bud.....structure, discipline and cultural unity has been SORELY lacking for years....with each development, I like McCoach even more...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Â I think Tyrod is one of those quiet lead by example guys. He's first man in every morning for workouts, year round and takes his job seriously. That's what you look for in a captain. Â He's definitely a leader by example, but he's not always quiet. I remember one game last season when a lineman was about to get flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct - Tyrod got in his face, talked him down, and saved us 15 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 The leadership council "chest thump" Everything I've seen about McD has been. Agree enough of the nonsense of the Ryan era Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 (edited) I wonder if the Pegula's are sitting around saying "Oh, yeah! THIS is what it's supposed to feel like!" Edited April 3, 2017 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 (edited) The leadership council "chest thump" Agree enough of the nonsense of the Ryan era ...can see why Pegula hired an image consultant......this is year 55 for me following this club and probably THE two largest PR gaffes I've seen that provided the urinalists with never ending cannon fodder were: Â 1. Firing of Tom DonoHOLE- after RW realized that his "Inner Circle of Trust" was woefully violated, he summons trusted confidant Marv, "re-tires" him with new Firestones and a bottle of Geritol. Next step was to promote Brandon into positions he had NO business being in. Detroit's winless season took some of the pressure off, but still OBD's patchwork FO was ripe for the mockery. 2. Hiring of Wrecks- Ticketmaster Brandon is guilty as charged and the Pegulas took the bait. For smart people taking that bait is unconscionable. The "Jets East Circus" moved to the shores of Lake Erie as the new "Jets West Circus". Letting this azzclown hire his brother in need of a paycheck made the Pegulas look even worse.The neophyte owners were made to look like "clowns in a a barrel" courtesy of Blowhard Buddy Jr and the "Ticketmaster", hardly an image they wanted to portray. Â ....I can see an image consultant , a hard nosed HC kid like McCoach as THE voice with Whaley in the background (don't recall Colbert or Teddy Thompson on the interview circuit) , and a more structured, disciplined team as only being positives....show me where this type of approach has existed during the drought and I'll shut the hell up........ Edited April 3, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 According to many he must be planning with his team of coaches on how to tank next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 What is this another episode of Survivor? It is pretty easy to tell a true leader of a pack. Williams is definitely an alpha dog who leads by example. If you need a council to define that, you might want to get everyone a participation trophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 According to many he must be planning with his team of coaches on how to tank next season ...so how is "Tankgate" any different than the whiners about the Patsies multiple "Cheatergate" scandals?....and .those FIVE tainted Lombardis?....think Goodell would not love a $20 million dollar fine for tanking to pad his "401K Plan"?.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 First thing he's doing that I admire. The team needs guys with C's on their chest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 which captain does jerry hughes report to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 which captain does jerry hughes report to? Hope he's not in a sailor cap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 which captain does jerry hughes report to? Â ...Kirk...Main Bridge............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Good! No more changing captains every game because they were born there or have played there before. Â I think it is important for players to know who they can rally around when the game is on the line. Agreed! It's seems like simple, common knowledge......but, I guess it wasn't with Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Agreed! It's seems like simple, common knowledge......but, I guess it wasn't with Rex. I hated that middle school mentality! Grow up and skip the not-so-subtle digs. It didn't get under the skin of the Big Boys, but may have pissed off a few people. That never helps, and can actually hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Under Rex: Discipline issues among players (not on time, sleeping, etc.) Lack of work ethic from the head coach Poor execution of the basics -- knowing alignments, getting plays in on time, etc Despite this lack of foundation -- a cocky arrogance Under McD:Player friendly but also player driven Attention to detail Great work ethic from the coaching staff Humility Focus on the fundamentals - coaches prepared, player discipline, blocking and tackling, maximum effort Give me McD--I like what we are seeing......but all that matters are the W's.... Rex was loved but not respected...Players don't work hard when they don't respect the leader. Agree on the differences between Rex and McD and love it. Regarding Rex....I don't think he was that loved by players or anyone. I always just thought it was built up by media before and during Buffalo without any basis.I feel like this people who never played organized sports are the ones who think chemistry and culture don't matter, when it actually is essential.Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Agree on the differences between Rex and McD and love it. Regarding Rex....I don't think he was that loved by players or anyone. I always just thought it was built up by media before and during Buffalo without any basis. Agreed! Rex was "loved" like the baby sitter who let you eat crap, stay up too late and watch things on TV your parents would have nixed. That's not really love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 ...can see why Pegula hired an image consultant......this is year 55 for me following this club and probably THE two largest PR gaffes I've seen that provided the urinalists with never ending cannon fodder were: Â 1. Firing of Tom DonoHOLE- after RW realized that his "Inner Circle of Trust" was woefully violated, he summons trusted confidant Marv, "re-tires" him with new Firestones and a bottle of Geritol. Next step was to promote Brandon into positions he had NO business being in. Detroit's winless season took some of the pressure off, but still OBD's patchwork FO was ripe for the mockery. 2. Hiring of Wrecks- Ticketmaster Brandon is guilty as charged and the Pegulas took the bait. For smart people taking that bait is unconscionable. The "Jets East Circus" moved to the shores of Lake Erie as the new "Jets West Circus". Letting this azzclown hire his brother in need of a paycheck made the Pegulas look even worse.The neophyte owners were made to look like "clowns in a a barrel" courtesy of Blowhard Buddy Jr and the "Ticketmaster", hardly an image they wanted to portray. Â ....I can see an image consultant , a hard nosed HC kid like McCoach as THE voice with Whaley in the background (don't recall Colbert or Teddy Thompson on the interview circuit) , and a more structured, disciplined team as only being positives....show me where this type of approach has existed during the drought and I'll shut the hell up........ Harsh but solid. i am highlighting my favorite bit. hardly any proof and nearly all conjecture. But there is a pattern here. and one I like so far. Sean as the Leader is worth a shot for sure. has some tooth to it i think What is this another episode of Survivor? It is pretty easy to tell a true leader of a pack. Williams is definitely an alpha dog who leads by example. If you need a council to define that, you might want to get everyone a participation trophy. It must be rather gratifying to be recognized by the new HC as a strong leader of men. I thinks that pretty cool. but i am quite bias about KW Â ...Kirk...Main Bridge............... Kirk (McD) : "Scottie!! (Hughes ) I am going to need everything you have !! we need warp speed to get out of this decaying orbit . Find a way " Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) Good! No more changing captains every game because they were born there or have played there before. Â I think it is important for players to know who they can rally around when the game is on the line. Â All they were really there for was coin toss. my question there is if we draft or sign a qb and he ends up benched what'll that do for leadership? Changing leadership mid course is difficult and not wise. I wouldn't mind boldin. But I'd rather have taken crabtree when the last group of these older vet wrs was available and bold in was also on that list. Â Other positions are drafted for and players replaced; Tony Romo was leader in Dallas. Edited April 4, 2017 by Koolaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 this is exactly what we need. Goodbye country club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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