PirateHookerMD Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I have not heard a single rumor about this guy yet. Is he asking for too much? Overrated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBillsForLife Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 (edited) BBMB---er, TBD hero. He'll get picked up by somebody on a deal similar to what he got with us last year. Edited March 12, 2017 by BuffBillsForLife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 He's just not in the first wave of FA. He will certainly be signed by someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateHookerMD Posted March 12, 2017 Author Share Posted March 12, 2017 BBMB---er, TBD hero. He'll get picked up by somebody on a deal similar to what he got with us last year. He's just not in the first wave of FA. He will certainly be signed by someone. I mean he made the pro-bowl, granted as an alternate. The pundits had me believing we could not afford the guy. Clearly we can with our cap space, and we let Klein go without apparently any interest. I wonder if we are waiting to see what happens with Kendricks, or have a 5-6 million/year offer out to Brown who is also waiting to see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Yeah from what I've heard it sounds like a forgone conclusion that he isn't getting resigned by us. Not sure why we have the cap space as well as the need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Maybe teams saw how he quit during the last part of the 2016 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 ...OBD paid him $1.25 mil in 2016......what would you do to re-sign him?.......Spikes got $760K and he won't be re-signed.....so would you roll that $$ into a Zach offer, let's say $2 mil/yr which is Alexander money?...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKellyTryouts Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 His twitter conversation with Preston Brown (something along the lines of going to miss playing together) all but assures that the current staff doesn't have them in their plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 He whiffed on a lot of tackles just like a lot of guys did, I wouldn't mind bringing him back but not break the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Might we replace him with Zach Cunningham? We seem to have more urgent first round needs. WR and CB/safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 He has tremendous range. We have nobody that can go sideline to sideline as a LB. I would live to have him back and see what real D coaches can do with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Grid Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 From the outside as a fan I'd have said if Alexander is with $4M plus per year than why big pay Brown $6M per. But the fact that the Bills only have to commit to 2 years with Alexander while Brown wants 4-5 could be an issue. Also there could always be a chance McDermmot just doesn't think Briwn is worth it / a scheme fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 There was a rumor yesterday that the bills were inquiring about him It sounds like the bills simply let him test the free agency waters...there is still a chance he could come back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Miami is interested The word is that he's waiting to see what Hightower signs for to set the market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateHookerMD Posted March 12, 2017 Author Share Posted March 12, 2017 Miami is interested The word is that he's waiting to see what Hightower signs for to set the market "Hightower wants to become the NFL's highest-paid inside linebacker. Luke Kuechly currently is at over $12 million per year." If Brown thinks he is going to sniff anything close to 12 million he's crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I think he likes Wegmans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 (edited) "Hightower wants to become the NFL's highest-paid inside linebacker. Luke Kuechly currently is at over $12 million per year." If Brown thinks he is going to sniff anything close to 12 million he's crazy. Honestly, I'd say the same about Hightower. Paying him an eight-figure annual salary wouldn't be smart business. As far as Zach, I've said for a while that I could see him on both ends of the market spectrum. It depends on if they're more impressed with him before the bye or disappointed after it. Player with a history of not sustaining failing to play a full season at peak performance? I would've capped my offer around what Lorenzo got paid. Edited March 12, 2017 by Blokestradamus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Honestly, I'd say the same about Hightower. Paying him an eight-figure annual salary wouldn't be smart business. As far as Zach, I've said for a while that I could see him on both ends of the market spectrum. It depends on if they're more impressed with him before the bye or disappointed after it. Player with a history of not sustaining failing to play a full season at peak performance? I would've capped my offer around what Lorenzo got paid. I agree with this If Whaley has shown a strength at something it is his ability to find linebacker's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I've said all along that Zach will get about 80% of what Hightower gets. I still believe that to be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Kind of reminds me of the London Fletcher deal a few years back You remember, the Bills said he was to old for a bigger contract THEN he went on to make the Pro Bowl 4 times in a row Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Kind of reminds me of the London Fletcher deal a few years back You remember, the Bills said he was to old for a bigger contract THEN he went on to make the Pro Bowl 4 times in a row I think it has more to do with how terrible he played the last month of the season. Definitely looked like he "mailed it in" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 He played well in the first half of the season but he reached a point where you could tell he was done buying in. He started playing less aggressively, "self-preservation" mode they call it. Knew the team was likely out of the playoffs, he was on a one-year deal, wasn't going to risk getting hurt and was/is hoping his good start in 2016 will be enough to cash in somewhere. I read earlier before free agency started that they had interest in retaining him but I'm betting they didn't offer him a great deal. And maybe McDermott picked up on that lack of effort he displayed at times and it's pretty clear, even with what little has been stated by OBD since they hired him, that he's not going to tolerate guys who wanna coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 His twitter conversation with Preston Brown (something along the lines of going to miss playing together) all but assures that the current staff doesn't have them in their plans. i did not know this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 i did not know this. https://twitter.com/ZachBrown_55/status/839547157254385664 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Kind of reminds me of the London Fletcher deal a few years back You remember, the Bills said he was to old for a bigger contract THEN he went on to make the Pro Bowl 4 times in a row I thought it was because he was too small? https://twitter.com/ZachBrown_55/status/839547157254385664 Thank you very kindly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 "Hightower wants to become the NFL's highest-paid inside linebacker. Luke Kuechly currently is at over $12 million per year." If Brown thinks he is going to sniff anything close to 12 million he's crazy. It means he would want to see what DT gets so he can have a better idea of his value within the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateHookerMD Posted March 12, 2017 Author Share Posted March 12, 2017 It means he would want to see what DT gets so he can have a better idea of his value within the market. Was Philly Brown waiting to see what Alshon Jeffrey got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 (edited) Was Philly Brown waiting to see what Alshon Jeffrey got? No, but Terrelle Pryor was, which is the more apt comparison here. Edited March 12, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 (edited) His twitter conversation with Preston Brown (something along the lines of going to miss playing together) all but assures that the current staff doesn't have them in their plans. SMH Edited March 12, 2017 by muppy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 He is overvaluing himself. Just think about it, his first two years in the league were good. Even after having those two good years, he got a small contract from the Bills this past year. Teams know what he is about, and it probably hasn't changed much based on another season of play. Good player, but I think a lot of teams aren't interested, just like last season when he was on market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateHookerMD Posted March 12, 2017 Author Share Posted March 12, 2017 No, but Terrelle Pryor was, which is the more apt comparison here. hah was just playing around, I see your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGBillsFan Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Honestly, I'd say the same about Hightower. Paying him an eight-figure annual salary wouldn't be smart business. As far as Zach, I've said for a while that I could see him on both ends of the market spectrum. It depends on if they're more impressed with him before the bye or disappointed after it. Player with a history of not sustaining failing to play a full season at peak performance? I would've capped my offer around what Lorenzo got paid. I agree with this.......I think mailing it in at the end of the season hurt him....I would offer something similar to Lorax deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBills Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 I think he'll resign with the Bills once he realizes he isn't going to get paid a **** ton by another team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Kind of reminds me of the London Fletcher deal a few years back You remember, the Bills said he was to old for a bigger contract THEN he went on to make the Pro Bowl 4 times in a row He should have gone to the Pro Bowl when he was with the Bills. But they kept sending Zach Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 "Hightower wants to become the NFL's highest-paid inside linebacker. Luke Kuechly currently is at over $12 million per year." If Brown thinks he is going to sniff anything close to 12 million he's crazy. Might as well just trade for Kuechly now and get it over with. We have the space for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmonkillebrew Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 He has tremendous range. We have nobody that can go sideline to sideline as a LB. I would live to have him back and see what real D coaches can do with him. Agree with this. I think there are a few ILBs that haven't signed yet - Hightower, Mincer - market is still being set. Sure Z will get his $ shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Idk if he'll really fit a 43 and be able to do what he did under Rex. If anyone noticed the players that are getting signed and paid, mostly o line. I think people like the LBS in this class. Dnt need to rush and over pay for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 He really did fall off a lot in the second half of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 He whiffed on a lot of tackles just like a lot of guys did, I wouldn't mind bringing him back but not break the bank. There's whiffing like every player does at one time or another and then there's not making the effort to try. Not surprised in the least McD and Co. looked at the tape and thought ZB isn't their kind of player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 My guess is that he'll be somewhere in the $7.5-$8.5 M a year range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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