Dragonborn10 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Best player overall: LeSean McCoy. Best QB: Bledsoe even though it was short lived. Best WR: Sammy Watkins...Sorry, he is a better player than Moulds, and I love Moulds. Just basing this on talent, not injury history. Watkins is an elite talent when healthy that can do it all. Best RB: McCoy Best OL: Reuben Best DL: Schobel: This one is tough as you could argue Kyle, Mario, Adams, or Dareus. Just felt he did it for longer and more consistently and might have been most underrated DE of his era. Best DB: Winfield/Clemens...Take your pick here really. Best LB: Fletcher Best TE: Clay (sadly) Best ST: Moorman Best Legend: Kiko lmao Very good list. I would put Winfield over Clemens but their careers in Buffalo were fairly close. I would put Spikes over Fletcher. I would add Terrence McGee for returner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) RB - Le Shady, but Fred Jackson will always be #1 with me DT - KW/PW/Mt. Washington/Sam Adams (sorry Tub o' Goo) DE - Schobel/MW CB - Clements/Winfield KR/PR - Terrence McGee, with a nod to Leodis My Man ILB - Cowart/Takeo with a nod to London Fletcher OLB - Lotta nothin' here, Jerry Hughes is listed as a DE WR - Moulds/Price (Sammy? C'mon man) TE - Jay Riemersma, Chandler a distant second QB - Flutie, with a nod to Bledsoe, FB - Gash/Centers (that is a really tough choice, can't make it) C - Woody LT - Peters (gagging a little here, throwing up in my mouth) G - Ruben/Richard S - AW/Jim Leonhard K - Rian Lindell P - Brian Moorman LS - Dorenbos/Sanborn (again, tough call) Edited December 14, 2016 by Freddie's Dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Best player overall: LeSean McCoy. Best QB: Bledsoe even though it was short lived. Best WR: Sammy Watkins...Sorry, he is a better player than Moulds, and I love Moulds. Just basing this on talent, not injury history. Watkins is an elite talent when healthy that can do it all. Best RB: McCoy Best OL: Reuben Best DL: Schobel: This one is tough as you could argue Kyle, Mario, Adams, or Dareus. Just felt he did it for longer and more consistently and might have been most underrated DE of his era. Best DB: Winfield/Clemens...Take your pick here really. Best LB: Fletcher Best TE: Clay (sadly) Best ST: Moorman Best Legend: Kiko lmao You're so wrong on Watkins and moulds. Moulds produced. Watkins sat on a training table Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Favorite Player? Fred no question. Best Player? Shady or Kyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthBuffaloKid Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Best player overall: LeSean McCoy. Best QB: Bledsoe even though it was short lived. Best WR: Sammy Watkins...Sorry, he is a better player than Moulds, and I love Moulds. Just basing this on talent, not injury history. Watkins is an elite talent when healthy that can do it all. Best RB: McCoy Best OL: Reuben Best DL: Schobel: This one is tough as you could argue Kyle, Mario, Adams, or Dareus. Just felt he did it for longer and more consistently and might have been most underrated DE of his era. Best DB: Winfield/Clemens...Take your pick here really. Best LB: Fletcher Best TE: Clay (sadly) Best ST: Moorman Best Legend: Kiko lmao This^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 I was going to play this game but then I thought... Why do I care about the best of the losers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) Drew Bledsoe? Seriously? He sucked. It's all Relative. We're talkin' Bills here. Do you prefer JP, Trent, Kyle Holcomb, Brian Brobm, Levi Brown, EJ, Kyle Orton, or Hotrod Taylor? Am I missing anyone? Edited December 14, 2016 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 It's all Relative. We're talkin' Bills here. Do you prefer JP, Trent, Kyle Holcomb, Brian Brobm, Levi Brown, EJ, Kyle Orton, or Hotrod Taylor? Am I missing anyone? Well, Levi Brown was undefeated in his tenure. That has to count for something, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 It's all Relative. We're talkin' Bills here. Do you prefer JP, Trent, Kyle Holcomb, Brian Brobm, Levi Brown, EJ, Kyle Orton, or Hotrod Taylor? Am I missing anyone? Alex VanSmack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Yes Moorman was good, but he got clocked by Sean Taylor. And look what happened to Taylor. Don't mess with the fast white guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Also we had a rising star in Damian Covington, who if I believe had a 20 tackle game, before he blew his knee out. That guy was going to be something. Undersized but vicious. Were you aware he was shot and killed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 I'm going with Aaron Schobel, but the sad part is that I'm not sure that a playoff drought all star team could even make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Yes Moorman was good, but he got clocked by Sean Taylor. Yeah - but he got up and gave him a nice butt tap and said "good hit" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) Fred Jackson, Eric Molds, Shady McCoy, Kyle Williams are top-of-mind for me. I'd be remiss if I didn't also mention Takeo Spikes, Aaron Shoebel and Mario's two good years. Sammy might have more potential than Moulds but hasn't done enough yet for me to put him on my list. Edited December 14, 2016 by hondo in seattle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 I was going to play this game but then I thought... Why do I care about the best of the losers...No doubt. All they knew was how to lose. Honestly I'd take Orton over Bledsoe... At least while he was here. Put 2014 Orton on the 2004 Bills and they beat the 3rd-string Steelers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPappy Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Kyle Williams Aaron Schobel Fred Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) Very good list. I would put Winfield over Clemens but their careers in Buffalo were fairly close. I would put Spikes over Fletcher. I would add Terrence McGee for returner. Yeah, I thought about it and Clemens and Winfield careers while in Buffalo were so similar, both excellent corners who went on to continue being good corners. It was a coin flip. I went Fletcher over Spikes in what was also almost a coin flip as well, I wouldn't have any real argument against Spikes either. I love McGee, but Moorman was the best ST player overall...I probably should have did best K/P and best KR/PR on my list rather than just one category of best ST player. So yes, if I do that, Moorman is still best K and then I would agree and put McGee as best returner for sure. So agree with all your points You're so wrong on Watkins and moulds. Moulds produced. Watkins sat on a training table So I guess you missed the note next Watkins that said I am not considering injury history, only most talented as requested by OP. I love Moulds, one of my all time favorite players, but Sammy is the more talented WR. And I am not going to assume Sammy will continue to be injured the rest of his career, he had no history of injury issues prior to the NFL, and the main injury is one that takes a long time to properly heal but also is one that he should make a full recovery from and doesn't pose any risk to his long term career. Its not like he keeps blowing his knees out or something. So again, I am basing it on talent and not his foot issue this year. Edited December 14, 2016 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Best Offensive player- McCoy Best defensive player - Mario (2013-14) Pretty much exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Lawyer Milloy? T.O.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 When he wanted to play it was easily Mario Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Drew Bledsoe? Seriously? He sucked. He willed the 2002 team to 8-8. Greg ( Rex Ryan) Williams' vaunted D was putrid. He was the only QB we have had since Jimbo who I believed always had a shot to make a first and Or score no matter the down and distance. He smoked Kelly's 91 passing yardage record. So, yeah, I guess he was a joke..... what was I thinking🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Honestly I'd take Orton over Bledsoe... At least while he was here. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirginiaMike Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Here is my top 10 nominees (in no specific order). I know I am missing someone. -Eric Moulds -Lesean McCoy -Ted Washington -Jairus Byrd (dont flame me) -Peerless Price (let the flames continue) -Travis Henry (im fully lit now) -Takeo Spikes -Drew Bledsoe (i feel odd writing that) -Lee Evans -Marshawn Lynch Hon. mention-Sam Cowart I would add Kyle Williams and Jason Peters. Plenty on the list to knock off to add Kyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) Moulds,Schoebel,Cowart,Byrd,Moorman,Jackson,Kyle Williams Edited December 15, 2016 by mob16151 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 TJ GRAHAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Alex VanSmack. Alex played for Ralph. He was pre last playoff game so he is ineligible. Honestly I'd take Orton over Bledsoe... At least while he was here. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 So many mentions of McCoy, who's really only been awesome for a season. McGahee was even more awesome in 2004. Do you guys remember Damian Covington? Had a 20 tackle game, then blew out his knee.Yes, on a playoff team. RB - Le Shady, but Fred Jackson will always be #1 with me DT - KW/PW/Mt. Washington/Sam Adams (sorry Tub o' Goo) DE - Schobel/MW CB - Clements/Winfield KR/PR - Terrence McGee, with a nod to Leodis My Man ILB - Cowart/Takeo with a nod to London Fletcher OLB - Lotta nothin' here, Jerry Hughes is listed as a DE WR - Moulds/Price (Sammy? C'mon man) TE - Jay Riemersma, Chandler a distant second QB - Flutie, with a nod to Bledsoe, FB - Gash/Centers (that is a really tough choice, can't make it) C - Woody LT - Peters (gagging a little here, throwing up in my mouth) G - Ruben/Richard S - AW/Jim Leonhard K - Rian Lindell P - Brian Moorman LS - Dorenbos/Sanborn (again, tough call) Flutie never played after their last playoff appearance.Any list that doesn't include Kyle Williams can be dismissed immediately, crumpled up and thrown in the garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Sam Cowart was a warrior before his knee injury. Just as good as Ray Ray, if not better imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Here is my top 10 nominees (in no specific order). I know I am missing someone. -Eric Moulds -Lesean McCoy -Ted Washington -Jairus Byrd (dont flame me) -Peerless Price (let the flames continue) -Travis Henry (im fully lit now) -Takeo Spikes -Drew Bledsoe (i feel odd writing that) -Lee Evans -Marshawn Lynch Hon. mention-Sam Cowart um, Kyle Williams Also Aaron Schoebel Sam Adams Cordy Glenn Eric Wood Ritchie Antoine Winfield London Fletcher Phil Hansen Only listing ones I haven't seen on here yet: Kyle Williams Jason Peters Aaron Schobel Sam Adams Mike Schneck Who? When he wanted to play it was easily Mario Williams. Screw Mario, two years of great two yrs of lazy ass. Greatest Athlete yes, Football player not even close. He willed the 2002 team to 8-8. Greg ( Rex Ryan) Williams' vaunted D was putrid. He was the only QB we have had since Jimbo who I believed always had a shot to make a first and Or score no matter the down and distance. He smoked Kelly's 91 passing yardage record. So, yeah, I guess he was a joke..... what was I thinking we did have a 3rd ranked D but then they thought they should let Pat Williams go, oops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) Alex played for Ralph. He was pre last playoff game so he is ineligible. I agree. AVP played for the Bills until 2003. He straddled the playoffs, but so did Moulds. You gonna make Moulds ineligible? So many mentions of McCoy, who's really only been awesome for a season. McGahee was even more awesome in 2004. Yes, on a playoff team. Flutie never played after their last playoff appearance. Any list that doesn't include Kyle Williams can be dismissed immediately, crumpled up and thrown in the garbage. Doug Flutie played in 11 games in 2000, and I have KW at DT. Look up your stuff guys. And "I Didn't Know It Was 4th Down" McGahee? C'mon man. Edited December 15, 2016 by Freddie's Dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Robert Royal Langston Walker Chris Watson Mike Pucillo Jeff Posey Chris Williams Aaron Maybin TJ Graham Duke Williams Kelly Holcomb You forgot Keith Ellison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Travis henry over McCoy by a mile. He completed seasons. He was a better Bill and had more yards on a much better passing team. That he got as many yards as he did while we still passed a !@#$ton is ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Mike GAndy, Tuten Reyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 um, Kyle Williams Also Aaron Schoebel Sam Adams Cordy Glenn Eric Wood Ritchie Antoine Winfield London Fletcher Phil Hansen Who? Screw Mario, two years of great two yrs of lazy ass. Greatest Athlete yes, Football player not even close. we did have a 3rd ranked D but then they thought they should let Pat Williams go, oops! Bledsoe second year we had a good D but he SUCKED. Thread said best player, the only other consistently dominant ant player for at least a season was Teddy Washington. Favorite player is a different thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Kyle Reuben Brown Antoine Winfield Shady Stevie Moulds Schobel London fletcher Pat Williams Nate Clemens Lee Evans And they say the NFL doesn't have a developmental league that's true but they have the Bills & the Browns !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Moorman. an aside, read a great article about the LA Rams punter, http://deadspin.com/johnny-hekker-is-the-punter-every-punter-wants-to-be-1789931094 this guy is astounding. bellicheck was gushing over him prior to playing the Rams this weekend. what a weapon. former college QB. had a 76 yard in the air punt in the NE game, his third over 70 this season, is going to break his own NFL punt avg record he sent in 2012. just ridiculous. oh and the Rams have the second least amount of punt return yards allowed, only 4 yards behind new england, YET they have punted 20 more times!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogger Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Robert Royal Langston Walker Chris Watson Mike Pucillo Jeff Posey Chris Williams Aaron Maybin TJ Graham Duke Williams Kelly Holcomb Great list Hey everyone remember that time we had that solid Kelly, Thomas and Reed combination a few years ago... Kelly Holcomb Anthony Thomas and Josh Reed Shame...shame...shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Great list Hey everyone remember that time we had that solid Kelly, Thomas and Reed combination a few years ago... Kelly Holcomb Anthony Thomas and Josh Reed Shame...shame...shame Shaud Williams < Anthony Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurna Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) Aaron Schobel needs more love Edited December 15, 2016 by Spurna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) AVP played for the Bills until 2003. He straddled the playoffs, but so did Moulds. You gonna make Moulds ineligible? Doug Flutie played in 11 games in 2000, and I have KW at DT. Look up your stuff guys. And "I Didn't Know It Was 4th Down" McGahee? C'mon man. I wasn't talking to you, that was a general post to everyone. I was mistaken about Flutie apparently. But you don't remember how dynamic McGahee was in '04?? Not to mention, Henry had some baller seasons as well. Edited December 15, 2016 by metzelaars_lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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