John from Riverside Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 and now we just added another one Lots of linebackers with lots of experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Yay? That said, as much as I want Ragland and Shaq back right now, Manny flew under the radar and it sounds like Zach and Preston are looking good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 and now we just added another one Lots of linebackers with lots of experience Who have performed well in roles when given an opportunity to play.. Spikes - Run stopper, 2 down Bierman - Edge setter with some rush ability Hawthorne - Rush off the edge Z. Brown- Pro Bowl coverage ability Manny - Edge setter - probably most capable of 3 down play Lo Alexander - Like Manny -- not as good at edge setting but likely better in pass The key will be getting the right combination on the field at the right time...Z. Brown gets the most snaps just because of the way Offenses are going. Fans can be frustrated with the injuries but not by the way Monos and Whaley have responded to them.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 and now we just added another one Lots of linebackers with lots of experience I think it happened when all of our rookies and draft picks were declared medically DOA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I think it happened when all of our rookies and draft picks were declared medically DOA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Glad we don't have any non-vets like last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Who have performed well in roles when given an opportunity to play.. Spikes - Run stopper, 2 down Bierman - Edge setter with some rush ability Hawthorne - Rush off the edge Z. Brown- Pro Bowl coverage ability Manny - Edge setter - probably most capable of 3 down play Lo Alexander - Like Manny -- not as good at edge setting but likely better in pass The key will be getting the right combination on the field at the right time...Z. Brown gets the most snaps just because of the way Offenses are going. Fans can be frustrated with the injuries but not by the way Monos and Whaley have responded to them.. I seriously see Manny as a three Down back. Seriously though, as nice as it would be to have Ragland in to have more blitzing/hitting ability, the coverage ILB is pretty much the last person you want to pull off on nickel and dime sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Chris Draft is still out there un-signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 It's hard to play defense in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallskiWallski83 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 This team is going to struggle big time putting pressure on the qb. Our best pass rusher outside of Hughes could very well be Eric Striker. I hope he starts making an impression in preseason game 2 because he was invisible in game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 This team is going to struggle big time putting pressure on the qb. Our best pass rusher outside of Hughes could very well be Eric Striker. I hope he starts making an impression in preseason game 2 because he was invisible in game 1 You sure? I think Washington and a healthy Kyle Williams will help. Pressure is a numbers game. We had more sacks in 2013 than 2014, when we had Alan Branch plugging up two gaps. Washington looks like he can do that, and we know what Dareus can do. If you are leaving Hughes and Kyle Williams single covered, someone is having a bad day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 You sure? I think Washington and a healthy Kyle Williams will help. Pressure is a numbers game. We had more sacks in 2013 than 2014, when we had Alan Branch plugging up two gaps. Washington looks like he can do that, and we know what Dareus can do. If you are leaving Hughes and Kyle Williams single covered, someone is having a bad day. We had almost twice as many QB pressures in 2014 over 2013. http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/total-team-defensive-hurries/2014/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 and now we just added another one Lots of linebackers with lots of experience Yay!!! Great news John!!!!! Now all this defense needs to do is to increase their sack total by about 150%, and they will have almost as many as they had before Rex ruined them. It looks promising, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 We had almost twice as many QB pressures in 2014 over 2013. http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/total-team-defensive-hurries/2014/ True. But we're talking about getting back our interior pressure, replacing a gap clogger, and still having a speed rusher in Hughes. That, in and of itself ought to help. Now, I think getting Shaq back will help, but I'm not sure of the vets we've brought in to replace our draft picks will affect it all that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 You sure? I think Washington and a healthy Kyle Williams will help. Pressure is a numbers game. We had more sacks in 2013 than 2014, when we had Alan Branch plugging up two gaps. Washington looks like he can do that, and we know what Dareus can do. If you are leaving Hughes and Kyle Williams single covered, someone is having a bad day. We also had Mario, who was one of the best rushers on earth at the time. Again, he's the worst player but he had a gigantic impact on our defense. Guys like Spikes and the Beerman are fine but let's not kid ourselves. These are old street FAs who weren't exactly in demand. We went from 57 to 54 to 21 in sacks. There are some huge question marks on these defense, which was our strength and one of the best in the NFL a few years ago. And if you're counting on Manny Lawson, who I like, as a big part of the puzzle, I'm very wondered. Yay!!! Great news John!!!!! Now all this defense needs to do is to increase their sack total by about 150%, and they will have almost as many as they had before Rex ruined them. It looks promising, no? God, I hate being so negative but I agree. Again, Mario was 2nd team all pro DE. That is a huge loss. Even with him not trying, offenses respected him more than guys like IK or Beerman. But it will be great when Rex gets another year to implement his "system" because of all the injuries. Nothing like rebuilding the #4 defense in 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Who have performed well in roles when given an opportunity to play.. Spikes - Run stopper, 2 down Bierman - Edge setter with some rush ability Hawthorne - Rush off the edge Z. Brown- Pro Bowl coverage ability Manny - Edge setter - probably most capable of 3 down play Lo Alexander - Like Manny -- not as good at edge setting but likely better in pass The key will be getting the right combination on the field at the right time...Z. Brown gets the most snaps just because of the way Offenses are going. Fans can be frustrated with the injuries but not by the way Monos and Whaley have responded to them.. Dont forget, Preston Brown is a vet now too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 We also had Mario, who was one of the best rushers on earth at the time. Again, he's the worst player but he had a gigantic impact on our defense. Guys like Spikes and the Beerman are fine but let's not kid ourselves. These are old street FAs who weren't exactly in demand. We went from 57 to 54 to 21 in sacks. There are some huge question marks on these defense, which was our strength and one of the best in the NFL a few years ago. And if you're counting on Manny Lawson, who I like, as a big part of the puzzle, I'm very wondered. Look, if we can get 2013's front 7, last year's secondary, and last year's offense, we look like a contender. I think we might have 70%-100% of the front 7, an improved secondary with Williams likely back and Corey White coming along, and the offense looks the same if not better. *shrug* I'm Kool-Aid half full I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Who have performed well in roles when given an opportunity to play.. Spikes - Run stopper, 2 down Bierman - Edge setter with some rush ability Hawthorne - Rush off the edge Z. Brown- Pro Bowl coverage ability Manny - Edge setter - probably most capable of 3 down play Lo Alexander - Like Manny -- not as good at edge setting but likely better in pass The key will be getting the right combination on the field at the right time...Z. Brown gets the most snaps just because of the way Offenses are going. Fans can be frustrated with the injuries but not by the way Monos and Whaley have responded to them.. Have to agree with your take on the players. But especially so at the Pro scouting Dept. I have been banging that drum fro awhile now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Yay!!! Great news John!!!!! Now all this defense needs to do is to increase their sack total by about 150%, and they will have almost as many as they had before Rex ruined them. It looks promising, no? Everyone is so focused on those sack numbers - would rather just see lower PPG allowed, than tons of sacks (accompanied by loses)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 When you really stop and think about a veteran defense and all the benefits of having one, it kinda makes you wonder why we even draft rookies in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 This team is going to struggle big time putting pressure on the qb. Our best pass rusher outside of Hughes could very well be Eric Striker. I hope he starts making an impression in preseason game 2 because he was invisible in game 1 The pressure will likely come from the front, i might suggest. Throw in a DB now and again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Chris Draft is still out there un-signed. The Bills should stay away from anything associated with the Draft at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Look, if we can get 2013's front 7, last year's secondary, and last year's offense, we look like a contender. I think we might have 70%-100% of the front 7, an improved secondary with Williams likely back and Corey White coming along, and the offense looks the same if not better. *shrug* I'm Kool-Aid half full I guess I do not think the 'sack" stat is a great metric for Rex defenses. Pressures and stingy is fine with me. It is a numbers game WWinPhilly. Rex coaches that. I expect a very strong run defense to start the season. And am hopeful the DBs step up with turnovers. Cheers to the glass half full ! The Bills should stay away from anything associated with the Draft at this point. HA ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I do not think the 'sack" stat is a great metric for Rex defenses. Pressures and stingy is fine with me. It is a numbers game WWinPhilly. Rex coaches that. I expect a very strong run defense to start the season. And am hopeful the DBs step up with turnovers. Cheers to the glass half full ! HA ! I do sacks can be misleading. It is all about pressure and making the qb uncomfortable. Well, we were dead last in hurries, 14 behind the second worst team. http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/total-team-defensive-hurries/2015/ Rex had his work cut out. Hopefully, he is not overthinking things and just having Kyle, Marcel, and Jerry go get the qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Everyone is so focused on those sack numbers - would rather just see lower PPG allowed, than tons of sacks (accompanied by loses)... Here, here! :beer: When you really stop and think about a veteran defense and all the benefits of having one, it kinda makes you wonder why we even draft rookies in the first place. Good to see you more active, and almost in regular season form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I do sacks can be misleading. It is all about pressure and making the qb uncomfortable. Well, we were dead last in hurries, 14 behind the second worst team. http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/total-team-defensive-hurries/2015/ Rex had his work cut out. Hopefully, he is not overthinking things and just having Kyle, Marcel, and Jerry go get the qb. I would think he will over load the line anyways. His thing is deception. Opposite of Schwartz perhaps ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Many of these recent signings to play LB were so experienced, other teams had forgotten they were out there as free agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 15, 2016 Author Share Posted August 15, 2016 Many of these recent signings to play LB were so experienced, other teams had forgotten they were out there as free agents. bla bla bla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 The sarcasm is strong in this one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 This team is going to struggle big time putting pressure on the qb. Our best pass rusher outside of Hughes could very well be Eric Striker. I hope he starts making an impression in preseason game 2 because he was invisible in game 1 I watched the game a second time and focused on specific players, Striker was one, he hustled all the time. I'm not sure how many opportunities he had, may have been luck of the draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Who have performed well in roles when given an opportunity to play.. Spikes - Run stopper, 2 down Bierman - Edge setter with some rush ability Hawthorne - Rush off the edge Z. Brown- Pro Bowl coverage ability Manny - Edge setter - probably most capable of 3 down play Lo Alexander - Like Manny -- not as good at edge setting but likely better in pass The key will be getting the right combination on the field at the right time...Z. Brown gets the most snaps just because of the way Offenses are going. Fans can be frustrated with the injuries but not by the way Monos and Whaley have responded to them.. Bierman is better used as an anchor allowing others to make plays who gets his sacks due to cover and that constant effort. You sure? I think Washington and a healthy Kyle Williams will help. Pressure is a numbers game. We had more sacks in 2013 than 2014, when we had Alan Branch plugging up two gaps. Washington looks like he can do that, and we know what Dareus can do. If you are leaving Hughes and Kyle Williams single covered, someone is having a bad day. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Just please don't suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flomoe Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Yay!!! Great news John!!!!! Now all this defense needs to do is to increase their sack total by about 150%, and they will have almost as many as they had before Rex ruined them. It looks promising, no? If they give up hundreds of yards per game on the ground like they did when they were getting all those sacks, it will be a long year. Your complete negativity towards Rex is ridiculous. Bring back Pettine, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 If they give up hundreds of yards per game on the ground like they did when they were getting all those sacks, it will be a long year. Your complete negativity towards Rex is ridiculous. Bring back Pettine, right? It's a passing league and this coach destroyed our pass rush. Now we even have his loser brother to make things that much worse. Would I rather have Pettine? Yes. I like to watch aggressive defenses, not 360 pound ballerinas. But that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 and now we just added another one Lots of linebackers with lots of experience And Old. Today's NFL is all about speed especially on Defense. Do these guys have the legs to run to the football sideline to sideline. That is what players like Ragaland bring to the field. You sure? I think Washington and a healthy Kyle Williams will help. Pressure is a numbers game. We had more sacks in 2013 than 2014, when we had Alan Branch plugging up two gaps. Washington looks like he can do that, and we know what Dareus can do. If you are leaving Hughes and Kyle Williams single covered, someone is having a bad day. And don't forget Dareus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 And Old. Today's NFL is all about speed especially on Defense. Do these guys have the legs to run to the football sideline to sideline. That is what players like Ragaland bring to the field. And don't forget Dareus. Pretty sure I did I didn't mention specifically what he's doing, but from the breakdowns of the scheme I've seen he plays 1 or 2 gaps depending on the situation. He can do 2, but I want to see him 1 gap more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 This team is going to struggle big time putting pressure on the qb. Our best pass rusher outside of Hughes could very well be Eric Striker. I hope he starts making an impression in preseason game 2 because he was invisible in game 1 As long as the players are well-versed in the scheme and communicate well, they will get pressure on the QB regardless of individual pass-rushing abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 We also had Mario, who was one of the best rushers on earth at the time. Again, he's the worst player but he had a gigantic impact on our defense. God, I hate being so negative but I agree. Again, Mario was 2nd team all pro DE. That is a huge loss. lol come on. This can't be serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I do sacks can be misleading. It is all about pressure and making the qb uncomfortable. Well, we were dead last in hurries, 14 behind the second worst team. http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/total-team-defensive-hurries/2015/ Rex had his work cut out. Hopefully, he is not overthinking things and just having Kyle, Marcel, and Jerry go get the qb. Rex has such a complicated defence how ridiculous is it to hear it takes 2 years ( or more) to learn the language....and the fans eat that excuse up. There is no way an owner or GM should accept such a line of Bull..... What other endeavor on earth can you imagine you hire people to do a job and pay them $75,000,000 and let the manager prepare instructions so complicated they cannot do their job. Rex is full of Bulls... Everyone else is stupid and he is so smart they have to get their PHD before they can even listen to his theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I do sacks can be misleading. It is all about pressure and making the qb uncomfortable. Well, we were dead last in hurries, 14 behind the second worst team. http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/total-team-defensive-hurries/2015/ Rex had his work cut out. Hopefully, he is not overthinking things and just having Kyle, Marcel, and Jerry go get the qb. Still can't believe we went from near first to last in these sorts of metrics, with mostly the same line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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