jahnyc Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Lynch was a complete a-hole when he was here. At that point in time, the Bills made the correct decision in getting rid of him. Fair point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Lynch was a complete a-hole when he was here. At that point in time, the Bills made the correct decision in getting rid of him. MAYBE the decision to get rid of him was OK. The deal was not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pondslider Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 MAYBE the decision to get rid of him was OK. The deal was not. Lynch has nothing to do with Bryce Brown, but he was on his 2nd strike at that point wasn't he? And he had played himself out of the starting job and pretty clearly didn't want to be here. RBs don't get traded for much on good terms. What should they have gotten for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I thought the reason Fluellen was cut and resigned was to get around that vested vet thing. Incorrect? To my knowledge is was just to shuffle IK and had no effect on his status. Simply a "we have to release you for 5 mins to clear this move" situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I'm not sure I get the "Whaley got fleeced" crowd either. Didn't we only give up a fourth rounder? That is correct. Wellllll, plus we swapped 7th round picks. Question: what did Philly do with that 2015 4th round pick? Trivia: with the first pick of the 2014 4th round, Philly drafted.....Jaylen Watkins, who is now on our practice squad. We drafted Russ Cockerell, who is now on the Steelers 53-man. Fourth round players are very hit and miss, and even those that make it, often aren't the "right fit" for their drafting team. Whaley, IMHO, traded for Brown because Marrone wanted a backup for the oft-injured Spiller who would provide the same speed threat, and for the 33 year old Jackson. Presumably Brown graded out better than the RB available in the 2014 4th round or later. And Jackson and Spiller were hurt, and Brown filled in, and was not quite what we hoped. He got another season to develop under a new coach and system, and got beaten out by a 5th round rookie who is 0.1s slower in the 40 yd dash, taller, heavier, and plays much bigger. He filled his niche last year, he didn't make the cut this year, goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 IIRC, they called him immediately. Fred didn't want them! Tell someone who cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Somewhere...... FredJacksonsJockstrap, BryceBrownsJockstrap and TashardChoicesJockstrap are giggling and passing notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Tell someone who cares. Tell us again about how much you love Fred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Tell us again about how much you love Fred. Old news ..History. Fred who ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Old news ..History. Fred who ??? Exactly. You can crawl back under the bridge now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Exactly. You can crawl back under the bridge now. You know where you can crawl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 That Doug Whaley is a tough nut to crack. Cierre Wood looked pretty good to me... multiples from the same formation. see the trend. who the hell knows what the pizza logs will have in them next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 One thing I think that is very telling is the timing of release of the players Jackson and Brown Jackson - we love you....we think the world of you.....we think so much that we are going to cut you at a time where you can still hook on with another team Brown ................... .................... ................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I don't love wasting assets. I think that's an ok opinion to have. The trade for Brown was a gamble that didn't work - fine. Blown trade but you have to take chances. The trade for Watkins was a gamble that may or may not have worked. If they're going to be using him as a decoy like they did last week, it's a blown trade but you have to take chances. If we make the playoffs this year, all will be forgiven. If we fall short, it will likely be because of depth issues that having extra draft picks may have solved... so, Whaley is taking a risk with his job. If he's ok with it, I'm ok with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 (edited) I don't love wasting assets. I think that's an ok opinion to have. The trade for Brown was a gamble that didn't work - fine. Blown trade but you have to take chances. The trade for Watkins was a gamble that may or may not have worked. If they're going to be using him as a decoy like they did last week, it's a blown trade but you have to take chances. If we make the playoffs this year, all will be forgiven. If we fall short, it will likely be because of depth issues that having extra draft picks may have solved... so, Whaley is taking a risk with his job. If he's ok with it, I'm ok with it. Ya gotta have a place on the roster for those depth players. I personally think the TE and WR numbers are a bit crazy, but presumably they're there because Roman wants 'em. Hard to fault Whaley for that. I don't know what they're doing with Fluellen on the roster but presumably they have their reasons. Is he a Special Teams Monster or something? Give Watkins time with Taylor. Got to build chemistry. Edited September 16, 2015 by Hopeful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 That is correct. Wellllll, plus we swapped 7th round picks. Question: what did Philly do with that 2015 4th round pick? Trivia: with the first pick of the 2014 4th round, Philly drafted.....Jaylen Watkins, who is now on our practice squad. We drafted Russ Cockerell, who is now on the Steelers 53-man. Fourth round players are very hit and miss, and even those that make it, often aren't the "right fit" for their drafting team. Whaley, IMHO, traded for Brown because Marrone wanted a backup for the oft-injured Spiller who would provide the same speed threat, and for the 33 year old Jackson. Presumably Brown graded out better than the RB available in the 2014 4th round or later. And Jackson and Spiller were hurt, and Brown filled in, and was not quite what we hoped. He got another season to develop under a new coach and system, and got beaten out by a 5th round rookie who is 0.1s slower in the 40 yd dash, taller, heavier, and plays much bigger. He filled his niche last year, he didn't make the cut this year, goodbye. I don't think Whaley is being castrated too bad here, but it's not okay how any criticism leveled at a bad move is screamed down. Sorta ridiculous. It was a risk that didn't work out. That counts as valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 If I had to guess......Brown wasn't too pleased with not being on the active roster and probably asked for his release. If Cierre Wood ends up starting for this team in November that won't do much for Whaley's approval rating. When you wanna' run the ball 35-40 times per game you need some RB's. Only thing that makes sense. No way he was the 53rd roster spot. And as has been pointed out this leaves us pretty thin at RB for a run heavy team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 no, they have 3 active and one on PS. He wasn't active Sunday. Not eligible for PS so he's just taking up a roster spot. Percy Harvin and Marcus Thigpen can also play in the backfield if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I'm ok with them cutting Brown because Karlos needs to get more of the handoffs, Shady also needs fed and there aren't many touches left beyond that. Can't see the need for 4 RB's. That whole spiel about ground and pound was before camp when we were incompetent at QB. Can you really take that talk seriously looking at our receivers? Seeing Karlos in person Sunday made me realize what a great burst he has off the line and through the hole. The man doesn't mess around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 *gets more popcorn* hows the butter here btw ? i like a good butter.. not too much salt. some salt. just not too much. sometime butter already has salt. I like salt. just not a lot of it on my popcorn. sometimes i get a soda. thats has salt too. you would not think so but it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 He gets another chance somewhere else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 BB doesn't play special teams. If he did and was productive, perhaps Dixon would have been the odd man out. Dixon offers more as a third stringer in terms of versatility, attitude, and ball security. Given the fact that the Bills have a bonafide FB, they are in pretty good shape at RB. he played ST this preseason for Bills. yes i was surprised too. Strangely enough, I'm suddenly less upset with Whaley for cutting Fred. It's easier to wrap my mind around it now. me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share Posted September 16, 2015 He gets another chance somewhere else Cleveland or Houston possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I don't think Whaley is being castrated too bad here, but it's not okay how any criticism leveled at a bad move is screamed down. Sorta ridiculous. It was a risk that didn't work out. That counts as valid. I'm trying to figure out if this is directed at my post and if so, how it matches up to anything I posted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Cleveland or Houston possibly. Or giants as coughlin solved Tiki's fumblitis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Or giants as coughlin solved Tiki's fumblitis some one wants that speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 serious question…who is whaley gonna pick up that is a valuable as jackson? they aren't going all year with 3 rb's and an fb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 serious question…who is whaley gonna pick up that is a valuable as jackson? they aren't going all year with 3 rb's and an fb. Maybe they think they are.... 2014 SF 49ers roster 3 RBs and a FB. 6 WR and 3 TE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moshermw Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Butt Fumble - Sanchez never really recovered EJ to JJ Watt - never really recovered Bryce fumbles into the EZ @ KC - Bills make the playoffs without that or EJ to JJ. As was posted - dude puts it on the ground way too much for Rex. Up to now is a career ending fumble. Fair ? - no Real ?- yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 (edited) If I had to guess......Brown wasn't too pleased with not being on the active roster and probably asked for his release. If Cierre Wood ends up starting for this team in November that won't do much for Whaley's approval rating. When you wanna' run the ball 35-40 times per game you need some RB's. How much exact difference in fan approval would there be between Bryce Brown starting and Cierre Wood? Guess Whaley ruined your "kept brown because he traded for him scenario" with Fred's release and that has you upset. Edited September 16, 2015 by jeremy2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalover4life Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Ray rice is still on the market in case of emergency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Ray rice is still on the market in case of emergency he'd be nice in this offense, but still seems no one wants to touch him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 (edited) I'm trying to figure out if this is directed at my post and if so, how it matches up to anything I posted? It's not directed at you, besides your reference to the "risk." When risks don't work out, someone answers for them. You're being fair IMO. Edited September 16, 2015 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Butt Fumble - Sanchez never really recovered EJ to JJ Watt - never really recovered Bryce fumbles into the EZ @ KC - Bills make the playoffs without that or EJ to JJ. As was posted - dude puts it on the ground way too much for Rex. Up to now is a career ending fumble. Fair ? - no Real ?- yes. Beating KC...buffalo still miss playoffs on tiebreakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moshermw Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Beating KC...buffalo still miss playoffs on tiebreakers. If you say so. Certain Oakland loss is the real big key in that analysis. In hindsight, prolly better the bIlls did miss the playoffs - set the stage for this 2015 team. Feels a world away from 2014 at the moment. Brown fumble in that game is still hard to erase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 he'd be nice in this offense, but still seems no one wants to touch him Maybe Igcognito could put in a word for him ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 10 pages on cutting Bryce Brown? Child please!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 @ChrisBrownBills Bills release RB Bryce Brown http://wp.me/plmrg-bEc I love when we waste trades on RBs, can't wait till McCoy is done in two yrs. RBs are easy to find wish Whaley would figure this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share Posted September 16, 2015 I love when we waste trades on RBs, can't wait till McCoy is done in two yrs. RBs are easy to find wish Whaley would figure this out. Speaking of trade proposals.....Mario for who???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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