die hard bills fan Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I know it's way early in the season and FA hasn't officially started yet but I'm getting nervous about the D. Kiko is gone and Hughes and Searcy are probably out the door too. These are good/very good players and I don't know if we can get the same quality players in FA. Factor in a new HC, DC and the potential switch to a 3-4 scheme and it's got me worried. It wouldn't be good if the D regressed this year given the ground and pound offensive strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY315 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Kiko didn't exist last year. Searcy?? Depth guy. Hughes not gone yet. Worry not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Barring injuries, the defense will be great again. Rex is a defensive genius. Would have loved to have seen Kiko back next year though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I'm a little concerned, but will wait til things happen. But if we lose Spikes, Hughes and Searcy, 3 of 11 starters, that's a legitimate concern. Not terribly difficult to address, but still not the best scenario. Kiko isn't a loss. When he played , run defense not so hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 A little nervous. Rex got whored twice by Kyle Orton last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Anyone that is concerned... Well just stop posting for a while b.c that is ludicrous. A little nervous. Rex got whored twice by Kyle Orton last year. Yes with a team that had no CBs b.c of his GM... How quickly you forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 When you have good players, keep drafting good players, make excellent trades to acquire good players - you lose good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Was the same "OMG we might regress" bull **** that happened when Schwartz took over and went fro. 3-4 to 4-3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I will be a little worried if we lose Hughes and don't get another pass rusher and CB. It will still be a good defense but we face NE twice a year so we need the best D in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perk71 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Nope not worried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 If it was me the front seven would be M Williams, Dareus, K Wiliams , G Hardy Alonso, Brown Bradham The truth is that I've loved Doug's small moves - draft rounds 3-7, stealing other teams practice squad players, finding guys on the wavier wire, Incognito etc I have not loved the Bills flashy moves- Chris Williams, Sammy Watkins, Bryce Brown, Rex Ryan, McCoy, Cassel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 A little nervous. Rex got whored twice by Kyle Orton last year. Not really. Rex got whored by his own QBs. Given chance after chance to put the game away, Orton hardly did anything. Eventually Watkins took a quick slant, cut between two defenders, and showed everyone why the Bills traded for him. But Orton was pretty substandard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I know it's way early in the season and FA hasn't officially started yet but I'm getting nervous about the D. Kiko is gone and Hughes and Searcy are probably out the door too. These are good/very good players and I don't know if we can get the same quality players in FA. Factor in a new HC, DC and the potential switch to a 3-4 scheme and it's got me worried. It wouldn't be good if the D regressed this year given the ground and pound offensive strategy. were fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I recall reading that the best defense is a good offense. Last year's D played great, with an offense that struggled to move the ball. This year the O should be better, reducing the pressure on the D. Or so one hopes. If it works out and the O improves, the D will be fine even with the losses. If we get Revis, we win the AFCE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Kiko didn't exist last year. Searcy?? Depth guy. Hughes not gone yet. Worry not... Searcy was not a depth guy. He is significantly better than Duke and was coming into his own. Highly undervalued by Bills fans. If the Bills don't fine a quality replacement I'll go WAY out on a limb and say they'll end up missing him more than Hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 A little nervous. Rex got whored twice by Kyle Orton last year. The CBs who were playing for the Jets last season would like to take your order...please speak into the clown's mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 not me. Rex and crew know how to play defense. not worried at all. and having no QB means they will build it up even more. reeeelaaaax..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I would still really like to find a way to keep Hughes. I'd like them to keep Wynn too who I think was a really underrated rotational guy. There will be at least 1 veteran added to the linbacking corps I would think, given that Kiko, Spikes and Rivers have all departed (at least we think Spikes has). At safety I think they have to draft a guy relatively high or bring in a free agent. I am not that worried about Duke and I think he is a good fit in Rex's scheme. Everyone remembers the owning by Gronkowski and is down on the kid, but I thought at times he played really well as a rotational guy last year and let's be honest - many better players than Duke have been owned by Gronk. However, there is next to no depth behind him. Bacary Rambo had the one game against Green Bay that we all know about but I'm not convinced he is more than a one hit wonder type and Meeks has shown nothing (including, for example, an ability to stay healthy). Hughes is the difficult one to replace if he walks.... the additonal LBer and safety are two of the easier positions to plug and play reasonably priced non flashy free agents in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Searcy was not a depth guy. He is significantly better than Duke and was coming into his own. Highly undervalued by Bills fans. If the Bills don't fine a quality replacement I'll go WAY out on a limb and say they'll end up missing him more than Hughes. Couldn't Corey Graham be the fill in piece? Yeah, if we lose Hughes Hardy and Shady should be two motivated players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 We'll replace Alonzo/Spikes with David Harris at LB--he's 31, but should fill that "bill" this year at least without dropoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 If Rex wants instant pressure on the QB, he'll get it when he wants it. They won't overpay for Hughes because they need a true 5-tech right now, and they just might get a decent one for a lot less than Hughes's eventual deal. Rex values interior D-lineman a lot, even more so than Corners. Rex's defense's between the hash marks is about zones and blitz's if he can man up effectively outside and set the edge against the run consistently. Many are down on Leodis right now, but the guy had his best season under Pettine. Why Is that? Press man coverage. Zones will never be Leodis's strength. In fact, it really is a big weakness. Press-man is another story entirely. He is a hip pocket player. Rex knows this already, and will build Leodis's confidence all Summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I think we'll could be back to Pettine levels of inconsistency, but still be solid overall... I liked Schwartz's scheme better than I have ever liked Rex's. That being said, maybe we'll grab a couple solid guys, and have a good draft, to mitigate losses. Not worried too much yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Couldn't Corey Graham be the fill in piece? Yeah, if we lose Hughes Hardy and Shady should be two motivated players Graham could, but his real value is at CB and he'd be missed in the nickel package in particular. I know there are lots here who love Robey but he was exposed time and time again in coverage last year. No matter how you slice is Searcy leaving has an impact on the D, whether it's with Duke taking his spot (ouch) or having to move CBs around. The guy played well last year and will be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 wait til hughes goes from the 4th best lineman on his team to the #1 guy who gets the double teams. you will never hear from him again. check the cleveland game, he literally got pancaked 6 times. his 10 sacks are mostly "coverage" sacks after 5 seconds. your not going to miss him. kiko , nice player, but didn't play at all last year and the defense improved (just sayin) searcy, nice player, but can be replaced by rambo, robey, graham and duke williams. plus i'm sure they will add defensive players via free agency.....david harris, a true NT, others ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 wait til hughes goes from the 4th best lineman on his team to the #1 guy who gets the double teams. you will never hear from him again. check the cleveland game, he literally got pancaked 6 times. I agree with this bit - I think he is a great complimentary or 2nd edge rusher. If someone wants to give him $12million per year or thereabouts to be a #1 you will see a difference. his 10 sacks are mostly "coverage" sacks after 5 seconds. your not going to miss him. This was not true last year. In his first season as an OLB he got a lot of coverage sacks. I have been through and watched last year and he turned the corner fast a lot and got to QBs quickly for a number of sacks and in a lot of QB hurries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) I will wait to see what happens in free agency and the draft before I get concerned. No point in it now before the job is done. Even as it stands there's a lot of talent on this defense so there aren't huge leaps to be made to stay where they were last season, but some moves do need to be made (obviously) for that to happen. Edited March 6, 2015 by BarleyNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Ummm...no. Defense will be just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGUNBILLS Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 The only thing I'm worried about is that I hope they get our offense fixed before our defense hits retirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 No. I am worried about the OL. That's first priority right now IMO. Fix that and we have some hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 not too much. a little if Jerry isn't retained Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 "Coverage" sacks is kind of what makes Hughes great, sure he gets some immediate pressure, but the fact that he never gives up on a play is pretty big. It keeps the QB under pressure throughout the play, giving us a large advantage. If his first move doesn't work, he'll continue churning until he gets there, and that's awesome. No. I am worried about the OL. That's first priority right now IMO. Fix that and we have some hope. Can you imagine what consistently sustained drives would do for our defensive averages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Anyone that is concerned... Well just stop posting for a while b.c that is ludicrous. Yes with a team that had no CBs b.c of his GM... How quickly you forget. Our defense also probably did as much as our offense in those games. In our first offensive explosion we had all of two long passes and a ton of points on incredibly short fields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 You know how this board gets, we are going to lose Searcy and Hughes, so let's dismiss them as not big loses or diminish their talent. They are both excellent players and all things considered, I would love to have them back. That said, we can't afford the $15+ million it would take. Rex will figure it out as he is a great defensive coach. But I find it amusing when posts dismiss their loss with a wave. The Hughes is a coverage sack guy comment particularly, that's just stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 not at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BfloBillsFan Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I would be accepting of a slight drop in the Defense's performance for a top 15 offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderstealer Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 This team could suck horribly. For years. We don't deserve it but this whole Rex thing could blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I for the record, am worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 A little nervous. Rex got whored twice by Kyle Orton last year. The Jets had a fraction of the team we had last season. The only area in which they competed was RBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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