Mij yllek Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Their 40 times were not very impressive with only Wes Saxton running a sub 4.60. The one TE who I found interesting was Cameron Clear of A and M. He is a great blocker and at 6'6" 280 has the potential to play OT. ( Jason Peters 2.0?) Perhaps a late round pick or high priority UFA. On another note, Chris Gragg is the 4th fastest TE in the NFL at the moment, faster than any of the TE's in this years draft. Hopefully we can develop him into an offensive weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 What about the Mighty Maxx? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Maxx ran a 4.9 then a 4.77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Sounds like they would fit in well in Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 40 times are overrated for TEs. Ball skills and routes plus blocking are more important. That Said, "slower" 40 times for the TEs is very good for buffalo. Better chance one of the best is there at 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 40 times are overrated for TEs. Ball skills and routes plus blocking are more important. That Said, "slower" 40 times for the TEs is very good for buffalo. Better chance one of the best is there at 50. My thinking exactly. I am hoping Maxx is there for us in the 2nd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) Correct me if I'm wrong but a lot of these tight ends are still pretty raw and don't have much history at the collegiate level. Edited February 20, 2015 by Smooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I think 40's are overrated as well it sort of depends what your looking for I guess. If your looking for an H-Back type guy then O'Leary is your guy. Great hands but not a huge catch radius. He'll be a high volume pass catcher but it wont be for big numbers If you looking for an inline blocking tight end you might want to take a look at a Nick Boyle or Ben Koyack. I'm actually a huge fan of Clive Walford. I dont know if he will last until 81 though. He would be an ideal trade down guy from 50. Maxx Williams is a good all around tight end but I dont think he'll be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 This may mean that they lean TE in FA. Charles Clay maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 You WANT the top TE's running crap times.....better chance they drop to 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uffalo Ills Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I agree. Underwhelming about sums it up this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 God O'Leary's hands are so good. I dont care if the dude ran a 4.93. All he has to do is find seams and have a QB stick it on him and its good. Guy doesn't drop anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 From Matt miller- @nfldraftscout: Nick O'Leary is a lot like James Casey to me (but slower). He'll play a long, long time in the NFL with H-back his best fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 From Matt miller- @nfldraftscout: Nick O'Leary is a lot like James Casey to me (but slower). He'll play a long, long time in the NFL with H-back his best fit. I agree, he'd be more like Delanie Walker than Vernon Davis in Greg Roman's offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Jeff Heuerman so far at the combine: Checked in at 6'5", 254 pounds with 33 1/4" arms and 10 1/8" hands. Had 26 reps on the bench press. Didn't run because of foot. Will be a steal late!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Honestly Jesse James apart from having a cool name ran a 4.8 and has 26 reps. At least as an upgrade to Lee Smith or a fresher Chandler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofton80 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Jesse James is also Gronk sized. Probably needed another year at PSU but an interesting prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Jesse James is also Gronk sized. Probably needed another year at PSU but an interesting prospect. Good point. Their measurable are pretty close. Gronk is a bit faster (4.6 to 4.8) and James is a bit stronger (26 reps to 23). Plus you can't teach size. He'd be an interesting 3rd rounder at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 From Matt miller- @nfldraftscout: Nick O'Leary is a lot like James Casey to me (but slower). He'll play a long, long time in the NFL with H-back his best fit. I always thought he'd be a Wycheck clone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) Their 40 times were not very impressive with only Wes Saxton running a sub 4.60. The one TE who I found interesting was Cameron Clear of A and M. He is a great blocker and at 6'6" 280 has the potential to play OT. ( Jason Peters 2.0?) Perhaps a late round pick or high priority UFA. On another note, Chris Gragg is the 4th fastest TE in the NFL at the moment, faster than any of the TE's in this years draft. Hopefully we can develop him into an offensive weapon. I really like MyCole Pruitt who ran a 4.58 and moved really well. He also seemed to have soft hands in the receiving drills. I never saw him play at Southern Illinois but he seems to have great stats. I am pretty intrigued by what I saw so far. http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/mycole-pruitt?id=2552401 He was top performer in 3 of the 4 categories, but before you call him a combine workout warrior, check out his college stats: Year Team G Rush Yds Yd/Rush TDs Rec Yds Yd/Rec TDs 2011 SIU 11 0 0 - 0 43 562 13.1 3 2012 SIU 11 0 0 - 0 49 577 11.8 4 2013 SIU 10 0 0 - 0 48 601 12.5 5 2014 SIU 12 0 0 - 0 81 861 10.6 13 Career 44 0 0 - 0 221 2601 11.8 25 Edited February 20, 2015 by buffaloboyinATL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Bills need to draft Jesse James so John Murphy can call him "outlaw" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 You WANT the top TE's running crap times.....better chance they drop to 50 well, of course selfishly I want them under performing their ability.... but if its that they arent able to run fast that isnt a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Their 40 times were not very impressive with only Wes Saxton running a sub 4.60. The one TE who I found interesting was Cameron Clear of A and M. He is a great blocker and at 6'6" 280 has the potential to play OT. ( Jason Peters 2.0?) Perhaps a late round pick or high priority UFA. On another note, Chris Gragg is the 4th fastest TE in the NFL at the moment, faster than any of the TE's in this years draft. Hopefully we can develop him into an offensive weapon. Dorin Dickerson was the fastest. Remember him? Jeff Heuerman so far at the combine: Checked in at 6'5", 254 pounds with 33 1/4" arms and 10 1/8" hands. Had 26 reps on the bench press. Didn't run because of foot. Will be a steal late!!!! I'm all for taking Blake Bell in the 4th or later. He's big and athletic, played multiple positions in college and we could use a "belldozer" in the Ralph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screwball Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Rotoworld is gushing about Jesse James. http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/307150/penn-state-te-jesse-james-shining-at-combine He added a highly impressive 10-foot-1 broad jump, which betters those posted by Jimmy Graham and Rob Gronkowski prior to their respective drafts. James is a mammoth 6-foot-7 and 261 pounds with 33-inch arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 James always seemed like he was being slept on by the mock experts, he's got the prototype size and is athletic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) What are the odds that one of these guys is significantly better than Chandler? Enough to blow the only pick they have that might bring in a top prospect? Nope. Edited February 21, 2015 by HoF Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mij yllek Posted February 21, 2015 Author Share Posted February 21, 2015 What are the odds that one of these guys is significantly better than Chandler? Enough to blow the only pick they have that might bring in a top prospect? Nope. I agree. Maybe a TE in round 3 if someone drops right into your lap, more likely round 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Cameron Jordan or Julius Thomas in FA The draft needs to be OL x 2, DE, RB, and Safety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Their 40 times were not very impressive with only Wes Saxton running a sub 4.60. The one TE who I found interesting was Cameron Clear of A and M. He is a great blocker and at 6'6" 280 has the potential to play OT. ( Jason Peters 2.0?) Perhaps a late round pick or high priority UFA. On another note, Chris Gragg is the 4th fastest TE in the NFL at the moment, faster than any of the TE's in this years draft. Hopefully we can develop him into an offensive weapon. Gragg, please, how long have we waited for that. 40 time doesn't mean anything, can they catch, run routes and block Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) What are the odds that one of these guys is significantly better than Chandler? Enough to blow the only pick they have that might bring in a top prospect? Nope.They will take BPA on their board IMO. Could be TE. They identified it as a priority. Clearly if they make a move in FA at that position then things change. Edited February 21, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 My thinking exactly. I am hoping Maxx is there for us in the 2nd round. Disabuse yourself of that notion. With the dearth of TE talent this year, Maxx will go in Round 1. From Matt miller- @nfldraftscout: Nick O'Leary is a lot like James Casey to me (but slower). He'll play a long, long time in the NFL with H-back his best fit. He's an interesting prospect - not for the TE spot per se, but think of him as the H-back. He's a hell of a lot better at pass protection than CJ, and that would mean a much stronger pocket for our QB - whoever that is. He seems durable and a scrapper from what I've heard. We'd still need a combo TE though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Honestly Jesse James apart from having a cool name ran a 4.8 and has 26 reps. At least as an upgrade to Lee Smith or a fresher Chandler omg, a guy named "Jesse James", on the "Buffalo Bills". playing special teams, running down returners no less.... get er done... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Yes the Tony Gonzalez type aren't there but there are still tight ends. I agree 40 times at tight end not too important...heck Gragg can fly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Their 40 times were not very impressive with only Wes Saxton running a sub 4.60. The one TE who I found interesting was Cameron Clear of A and M. He is a great blocker and at 6'6" 280 has the potential to play OT. ( Jason Peters 2.0?) Perhaps a late round pick or high priority UFA. On another note, Chris Gragg is the 4th fastest TE in the NFL at the moment, faster than any of the TE's in this years draft. Hopefully we can develop him into an offensive weapon. The combine is overrated. A 40 time is such a small part of judging players, it is hardly worth considering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 The combine is overrated. A 40 time is such a small part of judging players, it is hardly worth considering.agree except for CBs and WRs. Still not everything obviously but means more than it does for other positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 agree except for CBs and WRs. Still not everything obviously but means more than it does for other positions. I know what you mean, and agree somewhat, but Ii guess my point is a 40 time isn't a good measure up of useful speed. But I know what you are getting at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Anyone who would take a tight end over a running back does not know the game or this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's in My Blood Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I always thought he'd be a Wycheck clone. How dare you mention that name here!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Maxx Williams & Dan O'Leary looked very good to me. Jesse James could be a sleeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Still riding on the Maxx train. O'Leary as Delanie Walker works too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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