FluffHead Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 (edited) @mikerodak: Bills hope that Chris Gragg will return by next week. Tony Moeaki will be out "significant" time with hamstring. Some guys just can't ever escape injuries Edited July 26, 2014 by FluffHead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Moekei is probably gone. Smith and Gragg will make the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Moekei is probably gone. Smith and Gragg will make the team Couldn't agree more. Moekei hasn't shown anything since coming on late last year. Smith is our best blocker and Gragg could possibly develop into a Delanie Walker type role. cya tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas55 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Couldn't agree more. Moekei hasn't shown anything since coming on late last year. Smith is our best blocker and Gragg could possibly develop into a Delanie Walker type role. cya tony. Agreed Smith is a good blocker -but he has a disturbing habit of drawing a lot of motion penalties in a limited amount of playing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Oops there goes another rubber tree plant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I don't think they will cut Moekei. If he can't play for a while they will put him on the PUP list. If they didn't believe in Moekei a lot I THINK they would have addressed the TE position in the draft or free agency. We don't need a blocking TE, we don't need Smith. It is a dying position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Agreed Smith is a good blocker -but he has a disturbing habit of drawing a lot of motion penalties in a limited amount of playing time. This position undoubtedly needs an upgrade. I don't think they will cut Moekei. If he can't play for a while they will put him on the PUP list. If they didn't believe in Moekei a lot I THINK they would have addressed the TE position in the draft or free agency. We don't need a blocking TE, we don't need Smith. It is a dying position. Why do we not need a blocking TE? They used 12 personnel quite often in the Red Zone last season. Moekei has shown zero, a significant and reoccuring injury for a player who appears to already have peaked. Smith also filled a special teams role on Kick Return last season. Can Moekei handle that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Agreed Smith is a good blocker -but he has a disturbing habit of drawing a lot of motion penalties in a limited amount of playing time. and the big holding penalty. Not a big fan of Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I don't think they will cut Moekei. If he can't play for a while they will put him on the PUP list. If they didn't believe in Moekei a lot I THINK they would have addressed the TE position in the draft or free agency. We don't need a blocking TE, we don't need Smith. It is a dying position. I don't think he's PUP eligible at this point. Couldn't agree more. Moekei hasn't shown anything since coming on late last year. Smith is our best blocker and Gragg could possibly develop into a Delanie Walker type role. cya tony. He was signed in like the 3rd quarter of the final game. Did you expect him to show you something while he was moving his stuff into camp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Moeaki is following the Shawne Merriman guide to unearned millions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I don't think they will cut Moekei. If he can't play for a while they will put him on the PUP list. If they didn't believe in Moekei a lot I THINK they would have addressed the TE position in the draft or free agency. We don't need a blocking TE, we don't need Smith. It is a dying position. just one man's opinion here, but i think a blocking tight end is a wonderful thing to have. it's nice to get a little extra push for a team that wants to run the ball as much as a lot of us think they want to run it. the ideal tight end would be the guy that could block well, contribute in the passing game, and be healthy all year. i don't think we have this guy on the roster, but i'd love to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Say hello to Dominique Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 (edited) just one man's opinion here, but i think a blocking tight end is a wonderful thing to have. it's nice to get a little extra push for a team that wants to run the ball as much as a lot of us think they want to run it. the ideal tight end would be the guy that could block well, contribute in the passing game, and be healthy all year. i don't think we have this guy on the roster, but i'd love to get him. If you want a guy that strictly a blocking TE then you may as well trot out your 6th lineman. Obviously an all around great TE is preferred to one with holes in his game though. Edited July 26, 2014 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 If you want a guy that strictly a blocking TE then you may as well trot out your 6th lineman. Obviously an all around great TE is preferred to one with holes in his game though. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I really think we should explore jermichael finley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Moeaki isnt going anywhere, so he tweaked a hamstring- we are so early in camp right now. Some teams haven't even opened camp up yet, same with the Darius stuff he has PLENTY of time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 It's a hamstring. He'll be back by week 1. Of course, he will have injured something else by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmsmystic Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 That's a shame- still it would have been a real shocker is the Bills somehow outsmarted the hole league and picked up a stud off the scrapheap:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Couldn't agree more. Moekei hasn't shown anything since coming on late last year. Smith is our best blocker and Gragg could possibly develop into a Delanie Walker type role. cya tony. Gragg will develop into a guy who constantly drops passes and has a small habit of fumbling? Boy, I hope you're wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I really think we should explore jermichael finley Unless we sign him to a long term contract it isn't happening. He's got that $10 million insurance policy he can cash in on if he never plays another down in the NFL. I was crying for us to pursue Finley in other years when he was out there. I'd love to have him here if he's healthy yet because he's not an NFL roster it tells me he's not. As a result I think we might be looking to draft a TE next year or we throw a ton of money after Vernon Davis next offseason but I doubt the 49ers would let him go easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Get rid of Smith and just carry an extra lineman. I would rather keep Hairston and an extra Guard/Center on the team, 6 WR, and Chandler/Gragg as the TE's. They don't need three TE's on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 @mikerodak: Bills hope that Chris Gragg will return by next week. Tony Moeaki will be out "significant" time with hamstring. Some guys just can't ever escape injuries Great, now we REALLY suck at TE... continuing the bargain basement approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I really think we should explore jermichael finley I'm with ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Two words: Joe Klopenstein. Git r done, dougey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 If you want a guy that strictly a blocking TE then you may as well trot out your 6th lineman. Obviously an all around great TE is preferred to one with holes in his game though. i actually kinda like the idea of the extra o-lineman in there lined up as a te. you know he can block and if he catches a td you know the ralph will erupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) We don't need to keep extra band-aids in the medicine door. We need to carry a few of those until we can get it stitched up. I like metaphors. Because, in other words, we roll with Chandler, and maybe just one more guy, and maybe even Smith, too. Play the extra OL. In fact, I really like the idea of Sentrell Henderson being used as an extra guy. He gets around well. Use him as the 12/extra TE. Don't commit extra space, extra money and waste time with someone who will not add to this roster down the line when an extra WR or TE could. I value a 7th WR with the talent we have more then I value a 3rd TE. Hogan, Easley, or Graham are more capable of contributing to this team then Gragg or Smith or Moeki. Edited July 27, 2014 by jboyst62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Agree they need to use a G or T at TE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Even though we call Smith a block tight end, he is still pass eligible. Unlike a 6th OLineman, he has the 'threat' to run a route. If you bring in a 6th OLineman, better believe its 8 in the box with no way to counter it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I really think we should explore jermichael finley Eww. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) Even though we call Smith a block tight end, he is still pass eligible. Unlike a 6th OLineman, he has the 'threat' to run a route. If you bring in a 6th OLineman, better believe its 8 in the box with no way to counter it. You could still send 4 guys into pass routes. Or send him and he has to be accounted for - probably nearly as much as smith does. Plus it gets one of our young lineman some live reps. Smith is the type of guy that I hope we don't give away a 53 man spot for. You can easily find someone with his talent later if we lose a TE or a couple lineman. Hell, you can probably sign him in November. May as well keep an extra guy somewhere else. If it's a cut one of these guys situation, who do you cut? Smith, Hairston, Pears, Henderson Smith is my odd man out in nearly any situation (barring absolute disaster striking TE ) Edited July 27, 2014 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Even though we call Smith a block tight end, he is still pass eligible. Unlike a 6th OLineman, he has the 'threat' to run a route. If you bring in a 6th OLineman, better believe its 8 in the box with no way to counter it. I think my main counter will be Sammy Watkins. Sounds like a plan coming together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Unless we sign him to a long term contract it isn't happening. He's got that $10 million insurance policy he can cash in on if he never plays another down in the NFL. I was crying for us to pursue Finley in other years when he was out there. I'd love to have him here if he's healthy yet because he's not an NFL roster it tells me he's not. As a result I think we might be looking to draft a TE next year or we throw a ton of money after Vernon Davis next offseason but I doubt the 49ers would let him go easily. If he has been cleared by his surgeon to play and no one wants him, i bet he will have a tough time collecting on disability insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryCletus Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I don't think he's PUP eligible at this point. He was signed in like the 3rd quarter of the final game. Did you expect him to show you something while he was moving his stuff into camp? The PUP... Like return after 6 regular season games type PUP.... Maybe that list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) The PUP... Like return after 6 regular season games type PUP.... Maybe that list Once you've participated at camp I think you are ineligible for that list. Cordy for example could become a candidate for that but last year kolb was not - as examples. Edited July 27, 2014 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryCletus Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Once you've participated at camp I think you are ineligible for that list. Cordy for example could become a candidate for that but last year kolb was not - as examples. I was unaware of that... I thought they could be added... My fault for ignorance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 They signed Dominique Jones. 270 lb TE. I guess Moeaki is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle flap Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 They signed Dominique Jones. 270 lb TE. I guess Moeaki is gone. That dude is simply a "body" so they have enough TEs to run all of their drills til Moeaki gets back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I think he gets one more chance & if he gets hurt again he's cut … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 They signed Dominique Jones. 270 lb TE. I guess Moeaki is gone. If I remember it right. They were high on Moeaki when they siged him.Injury history and all. I believe without looking it up he has 1 mil guarnteed this year.I don't think he would get cut for a hamstring injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 If I remember it right. They were high on Moeaki when they siged him.Injury history and all. I believe without looking it up he has 1 mil guarnteed this year. I don't think he would get cut for a hamstring injury. I was high on Moeaki once. I kept getting weird visions of pulled quadriceps, fractured shoulders, and torn knee ligaments. It wasn't for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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