Logic Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) I know this is already in the "NFL draft rumors" thread, but given that it involves the team this forum is based on, and involves the position we all know they desperately need, and given that it's based on the reporting of at least one credible source....surely it deserves its own thread, no? I can't be the only one who doesn't regularly check the draft rumors thread. If it gets merged, so be it. Edited April 24 by Logic 9 1 2 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 We all would assume they are 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 so this means they aren’t 4 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Yes, I bet they are. Nabers. That’s my guy, two days before the draft. I think he’ll be the best WR. Monsterish good. I’d like one of those types. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I’ll allow it 1 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 If it’s not for a big 3….please don’t 7 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 24 Author Share Posted April 24 I think it's down to what Tyler Dunne said today: The two scenarios for the Bills are either: 1) Trade up for Rome Odunze 2) Xavier Worthy It's gonna be one of those two things. I like the idea of both. A true alpha X receiver would be great. A truly electrifying Z receiver with terrifying speed to open up the middle for Kincaid, Shakir, Samuel, and Cook is great. Either one would improve the Bills offense greatly. Two different flavors, but both would make us more dynamic. I really believe it's down to those two options as the most likely. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, zevo said: If it’s not for a big 3….please don’t If Beane believes Worthy or BTJ is their guy, I’m fine with giving up 128, another late rounder and a 2025 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag of Milk Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) 3 minutes ago, zevo said: If it’s not for a big 3….please don’t If they want Thomas or Worthy I think they still have to move up from 28 I'd be surprised if they had much interest in Mitchell. Edited April 24 by Bag of Milk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I have a felling Beane and Shoen have something cooking. 🤞🏻 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 It's definitely not happening then. LOL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Beane trades up but drafts a DB 1 21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: It's definitely not happening then. LOL. Allbright is the Broncos insider. It’s legit. Doesn’t mean it will happen obviously, but it’s not some random person 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Get BTJ. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 5 minutes ago, wppete said: I have a felling Beane and Shoen have something cooking. 🤞🏻 Beane should call in a 15% discount on the trade for helping get Schoen to where he is 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Beane trades up … for Jared Verse .. TBD ecstatic … 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: Get BTJ. MHJ or bust 1 2 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I would be in favor of trading up to #20 for Brian Thomas, but Nabers and Odunze would have to fall pretty far to be within range of a trade-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, bills6969 said: MHJ or bust it would be AWESOME. I highly doubt AZ will drop from 4 to 28 though. We’d need to make a deal into the teens first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Beane should wait to see how the draft shakes out before making any trades. It’s good idea to hear the market value for the picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Mantis_Toboggan Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) Hopefully not too aggressive. Hard to shake the ghosts of Sammy Watkins from the memory banks, but it feels like that same situation. The draft is loaded with WR potential, and Whaley wanted to get the cream of that crop… then Davante Adams goes in the second round. Point is, in a deep class I’d rather fire 2, even 3 bullets trying to find the Davante Adams, Aj Brown, DK Metcalf, or even Justin Jefferson in the late 1st, rather than risk the farm and hope Nabers or whoever is more Jamar Chase than Sammy “Can’t Miss, Generational Talent” Watkins. Edited April 24 by Dr.Mantis_Toboggan 6 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBI$111 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Hopefully the Bill's don't give up too much, they usually get fleeced and give away more than the trade value would suggest when they make moves up or generally make a trade. Other teams know they're desperate to trade up for a wide receiver, it's a huge glaring need and of course they'll take advantage of it. The Bill's are not in a good position to negotiate fair value if they want to trade up that bad and other teams know it. Maybe trade up a little bit and get Worthy and then trade for Metcalf or get another large receiver later on after they get Worthy. Can't let Miami get Worthy or Kansas City. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 minutes ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said: Hopefully not too aggressive. Hard to shake the ghosts of Sammy Watkins from the memory banks, but it feels like that same situation. The draft is loaded with WR potential, and Whaley wanted to get the cream of that crop… then Davante Adams goes in the second round. Point is, in a deep class I’d rather fire 2, even 3 bullets trying to find the Davante Adams, Aj Brown, DK Metcalf, or even Justin Jefferson in the late 1st, rather than risk the farm and hope Nabers or whoever is more Jamar Chase than Sammy “Can’t Miss, Generational Talent” Watkins. To be fair I do think it was injuries largely with Watkins... which is a huge risk in the nfl obviously. He also turned out to have some pretty let's just say interesting ideas on things iirc... kinda wonder if he brought any of that into his injury rehab? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 5 minutes ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said: Hopefully not too aggressive. Hard to shake the ghosts of Sammy Watkins from the memory banks, but it feels like that same situation. The draft is loaded with WR potential, and Whaley wanted to get the cream of that crop… then Davante Adams goes in the second round. Point is, in a deep class I’d rather fire 2, even 3 bullets trying to find the Davante Adams, Aj Brown, DK Metcalf, or even Justin Jefferson in the late 1st, rather than risk the farm and hope Nabers or whoever is more Jamar Chase than Sammy “Can’t Miss, Generational Talent” Watkins. 1. Doug should have discovered poor work ethic from Watkins 2. We had no QB 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Wonder whether we are trying to move up but for a different position 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I would think we’d only be trading up for a wr. Nabers is my unrealistic dream, but we prob would have to trade up too far for him. Odunze is prob the big trade up possibility and don’t be surprised if the smaller trade up would not be for Thomas jr, but would be for worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmonkillebrew Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 totally expect that Diggs compensation to be part of the trade package to move up. Easy justification for Beane. Not sure mortgaging the future to move way up is the right strategy though.... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Beane just throwing out rumors to find out if there are any moles in the organization 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 It’s crazy but we could be drafting Thursday anytime from 8:40 to not at all 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 14 minutes ago, HardyBoy said: To be fair I do think it was injuries largely with Watkins... which is a huge risk in the nfl obviously. He also turned out to have some pretty let's just say interesting ideas on things iirc... kinda wonder if he brought any of that into his injury rehab? One of these days, you're going to fall off the edge of the earth, and then how funny will it be? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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QLBillsFan Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I would be a bit surprised if they trade up significantly for Worthy. Odunze I can see and I’m all for. Worthy as an outside in the NFL may have some challenges with strength and getting free. Once he does watch out. Seems like a good kid as he just did a kids camp here in the Fresno area. But I would be mildly surprised if the Bills could not get him at 28. Of course that’s according to all the real and fake experts who are usually wrong 🤷🏻♂️😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 With all of the negative stuff that has been leaking out as we get closer to the draft, I would be surprised if the Bills were trying to move up for Thomas or Mitchell. Granted, this seems to happen before every draft, some of the information being true and some not so much, but given our needs, I can't see Beane using resources to trade up for a pick that does not have high character. If this is the case, and the target is a WR, it suggests that he wants Odunze. Not sure that an "aggressive" trade up would be necessary for Worthy, but if Mitchell and Thomas are falling on draft boards, I guess it is possible that Worthy would be considered by some teams to be the 4th best WR option n the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 The question isn’t whether or not the Bills are trying to get up for one of the big 3. That answer is unequivocally yes. That’s obvious. The question is, “can they make a deal that’ll work?” That’s the only question. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itaos Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) Given their needs and Beane’s propensity for trades we know and the league knows that he’ll explore trading up. Edited April 24 by itaos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 6 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: The question isn’t whether or not the Bills are trying to get up for one of the big 3. That answer is unequivocally yes. That’s obvious. The question is, “can they make a deal that’ll work?” That’s the only question. How high up do they have to get to be certain one of them is available? They could conceivably all be gone by pick 6. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I only think 5 WR's go in the first round MHJ Nabers Odunze BTJ Worthy Its either a massive move up for one of the top 3 or into the high teens or early 20's for BTJ/Worthy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, Dr. Who said: How high up do they have to get to be certain one of them is available? They could conceivably all be gone by pick 6. 6 is probably the “floor” of where they can go as of now. They could be working contingent deals though with the Titans, Falcons and Bears. I’d imagine that the Bills are calling 4 through 9. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 47 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: If Beane believes Worthy or BTJ is their guy, I’m fine with giving up 128, another late rounder and a 2025 2nd I refuse to believe my future #1 WR is a burner that's 5' 11" 165 lbs. Give me BTJ. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: 6 is probably the “floor” of where they can go as of now. They could be working contingent deals though with the Titans, Falcons and Bears. I’d imagine that the Bills are calling 4 through 9. Let's just pretend they get to 4. Who do you think they are taking in that scenario? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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