LabattBlue Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Removing Bates & Morse from the roster leaves the Bills with Edwards, McGovern & O’Torrence on the IOL(unless I missed a FA signing…or one of the guys listed at OT can also be a viable IOL backup). Unless they sign a couple of names before the draft, I would think IOL will be a Day 2 or early Day 3 priority. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 7 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Removing Bates & Morse from the roster leaves the Bills with Edwards, McGovern & O’Torrence on the IOL(unless I missed a FA signing…or one of the guys listed at OT can also be a viable IOL backup). Unless they sign a couple of names before the draft, I would think IOL will be a Day 2 or early Day 3 priority. They also have Alec Anderson that can play IOL and they like him a lot. I believe he's the one that made Bates expendable. I do agree that Day 3 we likely see some OL taken. They way it sits at the moment I can't see one on day 2 as we only have one pick that day and still have needs at WR and the DL. But if a guy they love is sitting there anything is possible for sure 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0neguy Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Alec Anderson is still listed on the roster. Don’t know much about him but he’s a younger guy they seem to like. Oops, late… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 A center with the ability to play guard could be an earlier pick than expected. This class is loaded with them. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 9 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: A center with the ability to play guard could be an earlier pick than expected. This class is loaded with them. or a guard that can shift to center - eric wood. i still dream of the draft getting creed humphrey instead of basham. imagine in an alternate universe we had Teller, Humphrey (at guard moved to center this year), with Dawkins & formerly Morse?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 3 minutes ago, boyst said: or a guard that can shift to center - eric wood. i still dream of the draft getting creed humphrey instead of basham. imagine in an alternate universe we had Teller, Humphrey (at guard moved to center this year), with Dawkins & formerly Morse?! Creed is a bit overrated IMO. The guy's snaps are in Mahomes shins half the game!! I'm surprised he puts up with it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 18 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Removing Bates & Morse from the roster leaves the Bills with Edwards, McGovern & O’Torrence on the IOL(unless I missed a FA signing…or one of the guys listed at OT can also be a viable IOL backup). Unless they sign a couple of names before the draft, I would think IOL will be a Day 2 or early Day 3 priority. I would not be surprised if IOL is a spot that the Bills throw a couple of Day 3 picks at. I hope they add a decent backup in FA at some point. As I see it they’ve got Van Demark backing up the OTs and pretty much no one backing up the OGs. Anderson has done nothing. It’s just speculation due to the Bates and Morse moves that he is a viable backup. I think it’s a hole on the roster. But one that should be fairly cheap to fill. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thandGoal Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 57 minutes ago, boyst said: or a guard that can shift to center - eric wood. i still dream of the draft getting creed humphrey instead of basham. imagine in an alternate universe we had Teller, Humphrey (at guard moved to center this year), with Dawkins & formerly Morse?! I wanted Creed Humphrey that draft-- not sure why because I never followed him in college. I believe he also has played C in his 3 years with the Chiefs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 59 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Creed is a bit overrated IMO. The guy's snaps are in Mahomes shins half the game!! I'm surprised he puts up with it ok, then in '22 we took Linderbaum instead of Elam. Cut Morse and save money after '22. Linderbaum moves to center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Creed is a bit overrated IMO. The guy's snaps are in Mahomes shins half the game!! I'm surprised he puts up with it He isn't the best snapper, but he is a darn good blocker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Before his 2nd season ending injury, they were experimenting with Doyle at guard. So there's that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Jackson Powers is an option at 28. Play center or guard. Closer to the size of Torrence instead of Morse. Maybe Fraizer from WVU at 60. The team obviously likes McGovern. Seems like he is excited to play center. The open spot is at guard. Who ever is drafted probably starts their career at LG even if they can play center. I think they can find a player in the 4th that is projected as guard only who could start early. Early drafted guys are those with flexibility across the line. Simply being a guard will push them down a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 We are drafting two offensive lineman this draft. One who plays interior and one that currently plays tackle but could move inside if we need him. That's my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) They are not drafting an IOL in the first round. Mid-rounds for sure, but if the IOL class is deep why would they spend and early pick on one? That mindset makes no sense. They are going to take big swings in the first and second rounds...WR then DL or vice/versa. They will have to be wary of RT Spencer Brown's impending free agency. Hopefully, they bring him back, if not they will have to start looking for his replacement. Edited March 21 by MrEpsYtown 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 hours ago, LabattBlue said: Removing Bates & Morse from the roster leaves the Bills with Edwards, McGovern & O’Torrence on the IOL(unless I missed a FA signing…or one of the guys listed at OT can also be a viable IOL backup). Unless they sign a couple of names before the draft, I would think IOL will be a Day 2 or early Day 3 priority. Brane was at the Alabama pro day. They have a couple guys that could be late round depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 hour ago, 4thandGoal said: I wanted Creed Humphrey that draft-- not sure why because I never followed him in college. I believe he also has played C in his 3 years with the Chiefs So did most of this board while the Bills were on the clock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospector Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 5 hours ago, BarleyNY said: I would not be surprised if IOL is a spot that the Bills throw a couple of Day 3 picks at. I hope they add a decent backup in FA at some point. As I see it they’ve got Van Demark backing up the OTs and pretty much no one backing up the OGs. Anderson has done nothing. It’s just speculation due to the Bates and Morse moves that he is a viable backup. I think it’s a hole on the roster. But one that should be fairly cheap to fill. I keep forgetting that we didn't get the chance to pick Nick Broeker on our practice squad... dang you Texans! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 isn't Dolphins Center Connor Williams a UFA? Could bring him in maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 5 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: They also have Alec Anderson that can play IOL and they like him a lot. I believe he's the one that made Bates expendable. I do agree that Day 3 we likely see some OL taken. They way it sits at the moment I can't see one on day 2 as we only have one pick that day and still have needs at WR and the DL. But if a guy they love is sitting there anything is possible for sure Do you know what they think about Kevin Jarvis? He's listed on some sites as an OT, but Draft Diamonds had this to say about him and the Bills have him listed as a G: https://nfldraftdiamonds.com/2022/04/kevin-jarvis/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 5 hours ago, BarleyNY said: I would not be surprised if IOL is a spot that the Bills throw a couple of Day 3 picks at. I hope they add a decent backup in FA at some point. As I see it they’ve got Van Demark backing up the OTs and pretty much no one backing up the OGs. Anderson has done nothing. It’s just speculation due to the Bates and Morse moves that he is a viable backup. I think it’s a hole on the roster. But one that should be fairly cheap to fill. They must have really felt Van Demark came on as a swing tackle. We seem pretty thin there to me as well. Our starting OLmen hung amazingly tough last year. The OLman who missed the most snaps last season (knock wood!) was Dion Dawkins - who still played >96% of the snaps! Morse played 97%. We should be as lucky this season, so I agree we need to invest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 5 hours ago, boyst said: or a guard that can shift to center - eric wood. Wood played Center in college and the pros. They also can easily find a David Edwards type in FA. This regime likes guys with NFL starting experience to build the depth, I would not rule that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) anyone here know anything about the Michigan Center? he pops as a 4-5 round pick on mock draft sims. Edited March 21 by RyanC883 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 The Bills have lost two vets that could play C … and McGovern is a question mark as to how he will fit into the position.. I think it’s likely Beane adds another FA signing here, given that two guys have moved on.. Joe Marino has mentioned former Rams C Brian Allen as someone who could be a candidate … I note he is still available … Started every game in the Rams 2021 SB year when Kromer was there … the Rams later signed him to starter money but he has had several injuries since …and they cut him a month ago.. This is a similar path that David Edwards walked on his way to the Bills … it could be Allen could sign a similiar deal around $2m that Edwards did last year to try and get his career back on track,,, plus they need a second Allen on the team since Kyle left … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 21 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Do you know what they think about Kevin Jarvis? He's listed on some sites as an OT, but Draft Diamonds had this to say about him and the Bills have him listed as a G: https://nfldraftdiamonds.com/2022/04/kevin-jarvis/ No clue what they would think, but he seems like a gritty middle round guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 17 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: Wood played Center in college and the pros. They also can easily find a David Edwards type in FA. This regime likes guys with NFL starting experience to build the depth, I would not rule that out. wood played guard for the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 8 minutes ago, boyst said: wood played guard for the Bills. As a rookie only. He also was a late 1st round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 14 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: As a rookie only. He also was a late 1st round pick. yes. and there is no reason we could not have done that to another prospect at center the last few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 6 hours ago, GunnerBill said: He isn't the best snapper, but he is a darn good blocker. He wasn't the best at pass blocking last year either... He's a tremendous athlete and run blocker but he gets shaky in pass protection occasionally Honestly more than Morse I think he's a good center but he's certainly is not this first ballot Hall of famer that we screwed the pooch on He's not Nick Mangold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 19 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: He wasn't the best at pass blocking last year either... He's a tremendous athlete and run blocker but he gets shaky in pass protection occasionally Honestly more than Morse I think he's a good center but he's certainly is not this first ballot Hall of famer that we screwed the pooch on He's not Nick Mangold For sure he isn't Nick Mangold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: isn't Dolphins Center Connor Williams a UFA? Could bring him in maybe he was awful. he has no power. he's like Morse lite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 8 hours ago, LabattBlue said: Removing Bates & Morse from the roster leaves the Bills with Edwards, McGovern & O’Torrence on the IOL(unless I missed a FA signing…or one of the guys listed at OT can also be a viable IOL backup). Unless they sign a couple of names before the draft, I would think IOL will be a Day 2 or early Day 3 priority. Absolutely, it's a strong draft for OL. Need to bring in some RT competition to develop for Spencer Brown's spot as well for when he leaves in free agency on a contract that will stagger his haters. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 6 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: We are drafting two offensive lineman this draft. One who plays interior and one that currently plays tackle but could move inside if we need him. That's my guess. I’m with you on this… just to create havoc what if Barton the Duke G is sitting at 28 and the WR are gone ? And we can’t find a partner to trade back ? Just saying our OL becomes better than ever ?? Not what I would expect the Bills to do but it’s not an impossible scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: Absolutely, it's a strong draft for OL. Need to bring in some RT competition to develop for Spencer Brown's spot as well for when he leaves in free agency on a contract that will stagger his haters. You like a tackle who still might be there at 60? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 48 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said: I’m with you on this… just to create havoc what if Barton the Duke G is sitting at 28 and the WR are gone ? And we can’t find a partner to trade back ? Just saying our OL becomes better than ever ?? Not what I would expect the Bills to do but it’s not an impossible scenario. Barton will be a NFL center for sure He might get a groomed year at guard to get acclimated.. but his athleticism and football IQ certainly will bring him to center 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 5 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: You like a tackle who still might be there at 60? I think there will be future NFL starting RT's there still, yes. But I am thinking more day 3. It's a year where you can get a Spencer Brown level prospect in round 4 or possibly 5 even. Brown was all-RAS but not much film or experience when he got drafted. He'd have gone later in this draft, for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 4 hours ago, boyst said: wood played guard for the Bills. Yeah he played G for 2 years but he was a center who could play guard vs the other way around..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 11 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: They also have Alec Anderson that can play IOL and they like him a lot. I believe he's the one that made Bates expendable. I do agree that Day 3 we likely see some OL taken. They way it sits at the moment I can't see one on day 2 as we only have one pick that day and still have needs at WR and the DL. But if a guy they love is sitting there anything is possible for sure We have many needs: WR, DT, S, DE, RB, IOL, OT, CB, LB…. I think in this order…. LOL, Ty J is a total embarrassment as a#2 RB…. I don’t know if he should even be on the PS….. Our team needs talent so freakin’ badly….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Wouldn’t be sexy be it also wouldn’t shock me if we drafted Jackson Powers Johnson if he’s there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 I thought the title was LOL Depth. Figured it’s a McD defensive pick in round one thing etc. Sorry I have nothing to add since I read it again other than I’m an idiot 😂. My snarky quips have no place here….and I’m a few martinis deep so there’s that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) IMO we have a starting 5 set. Then you have Tackles Van Denmark, Tommy Doyle on the roster and Gouraige on a futures deal. Doyle was working interior last pre season as well. IOL it’s Alec Anderson as a rostered player, and Kevin Jarvis on a futures deal. Both guys are college right tackles playing inside. Both can play center and guard. The Bills will have to add here. I assume the 5 starters plus Van Denmark and Anderson have a leg up to make the team. And if he is healthy, Doyle as well. That’s 7 guys and they usually keep 9-10 guys. There are a ton of mid level guys in free agency and I assume they draft some people. I think we are in a good place. Edited March 22 by MrEpsYtown 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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