Draft night I can see this coming

[Putin]

On 3/14/2024 at 12:46 PM, Prospector said:

No 

[Solomon Grundy]

On 3/14/2024 at 1:34 PM, oldmanfan said:

Somewhere between picks 4-8 Roger walks up to the microphone and announces:  We have a trade.  Buffalo has traded (a small boatload of picks) to (team to be named) and is now on the clock.  And we get one of the top 3 rated WRs in the draft.

 

Beane and McD have said they need to get more explosive.  And they’ll do that by getting more explosive with their moves to draft an explosive WR for Josh.

Stevie Wonder? Ray Charles? Jose Feliciano? 

[Pete]

Beane trades up to low 20s to grab our #1 WR going forward IMO.  Mitchell is the guy we trade up for IMO

[nosejob]

22 minutes ago, Pete said:

Beane trades up to low 20s to grab our #1 WR going forward IMO.  Mitchell is the guy we trade up for IMO

I don't know. A guy who admittedly (conserves his energy) when he knows the ball ain't coming to him....and not noted for "making himself available to the QB on

busted plays, does not give me the process feeling.

 

On the other hand Legette who has faced a lot of trials and adversity, worked his butt off to get to this point, screams process and character. The kind of guy who

could look like an Eric Moulds...ish....and it's possible to maybe trade down a little, pick up a 3rd.

[BobbyC81]

On 3/14/2024 at 10:42 AM, MasterStrategist said:

Agreed.  Those day 3 picks will be valuable for moving up in Rd 2 though.

 

Say to jump ahead of Steelers, move from Pick 60 to Pick 50.  Both Steelers and Bills have very similar positional needs: WR, Safety, Center

Trade lower picks for a 3rd.  Right now, we’re looking at going 67 picks between our 2nd and the first 4th round pick.

 

 I hope Beane can control himself this year and not give up picks to move up a few spots for a guy he wants.  I have some doubts and his track record hasn’t been good.

[frogger]

This draft might be the most important draft Buffalo has had in 3 years. We need every pick, we need the scouts to be extra scoutie.  We need need our middle rounders to make the team.  

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

Everyone saying we need the picks to fill out the roster. How many players did we sign last offseason for 1.7 mil? They were proven NFL players too, not unknown rookies. Buffalo fans' obsession with draft picks and cap space is annoying and clearly residual mental damage from the drought.

[Orlando Tim]

On 3/14/2024 at 1:39 PM, LabattBlue said:

Any idea how much draft capital is needed to go from 28 to top 10?  
 

IMO…very very small chance of this happening. 

The Bills got the minimum from  KC a  on the pick  for Mahomes and that was the next years 1st along with the current 1st and a 3rd rounder. 

[Mat68]

I wouldnt go up more than a few spots.  Roster is too thin to trade up too high.  Need probably 9 of the 11 picks minimum. 

[aristocrat]

Get up high enough for Brian Thomas

[LABILLBACKER]

On 3/14/2024 at 10:44 AM, SCBills said:

 

Completely agree.  I don't expect us to move up in RD1.. maybe even moving back given the league's shenanigans with our RD3 vanishing pick.  However, I expect us to be very active on Day 2. 

 

 

If realistically we have no shot at Thomas or Mitchell,  then yes by all means trade the 28th for an extra 2nd and 3rd.

[BigAl2526]

I can see that not coming.

 

[Mat68]

4 hours ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:

Everyone saying we need the picks to fill out the roster. How many players did we sign last offseason for 1.7 mil? They were proven NFL players too, not unknown rookies. Buffalo fans' obsession with draft picks and cap space is annoying and clearly residual mental damage from the drought.

Day 3 guys are half the price and on the roster for 4 years. Going the merc route is fine but you are in the same place the following year.   This year Buffalo should be players with UFA’s aswell.  Less packed 53 so more chances for guys to make the roster.   

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

3 hours ago, Mat68 said:

Day 3 guys are half the price and on the roster for 4 years. Going the merc route is fine but you are in the same place the following year.   This year Buffalo should be players with UFA’s aswell.  Less packed 53 so more chances for guys to make the roster.   

Ignored my point about day 3 guys being unproven. They're unlikely to even make the roster. 

[PauleeeWalnuts]

On 3/14/2024 at 1:39 PM, LabattBlue said:

Any idea how much draft capital is needed to go from 28 to top 10?  
 

IMO…very very small chance of this happening. 

Probably 28 plus Diggs (never happening) is the only thing that could move them up that far. Not enough high picks 

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

JSN fell to 20 last year. Wouldn't cost too much to get to that range if someone falls. 

[NewEra]

17 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:

JSN fell to 20 last year. Wouldn't cost too much to get to that range if someone falls. 

How much is “not too much”?  We don’t have a 3rd.  

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

13 minutes ago, NewEra said:

How much is “not too much”?  We don’t have a 3rd.  

 

2 2nds, this years and next, probably gets it done. Obviously for the right player.

 

I was speaking relative to those discussing getting up in the top ten.

 

Actually, looking at this chart I just googled, one 2nd would be enough to get to 20. https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:

 

2 2nds, this years and next, probably gets it done. Obviously for the right player.

 

I was speaking relative to those discussing getting up in the top ten.

 

Actually, looking at this chart I just googled, one 2nd would be enough to get to 20. https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp

If that’s the decision, I’m behind it.  I just don’t see Beane being ok waiting til rd 4 for his 2nd selection.  

[LabattBlue]

4 hours ago, PauleeeWalnuts said:

Probably 28 plus Diggs (never happening) is the only thing that could move them up that far. Not enough high picks 

Diggs included in a package to move up would get Beane an instant hangup. 

[NickelCity]

This draft screams trade down, to me. But it takes two to tango. 

[BarleyNY]

16 hours ago, PauleeeWalnuts said:

Probably 28 plus Diggs (never happening) is the only thing that could move them up that far. Not enough high picks 

 

Any team in the top 10 that wants a WR is just going to take one of the top 3 there. Also Diggs has much less trade value than people think. He’s a one year rental type of player now. Big contract, 31 this season, already showing a decline to his skill set and he’s been a bit of a PITA. That last one is particularly important since teams picking top 10 aren’t exactly SB contenders and we know how Diggs feels about that. That all doesn’t scream “big trade value”. Nor does it give the Bills a lot of options as far as teams to trade him to. Diggs likely is a Bill this season, but that will be it. 

[transient]

I can see them trying to move up to late teens early 20s to get the last of the WRs with a first round grade on their board. Otherwise, with their FA WRs and a deep WR draft, I see them going BPA rd 1 with WR in rd 2. 
 

The only way I see them moving to early teens is if a can’t miss prospect in their minds falls outside of the top 10 for some reason… but that is a long shot.

[BuffaninSarasota]

On 3/14/2024 at 7:27 PM, oldmanfan said:

Today might have just changed my mind.  

How so ?

[billsfan_34]

On 3/14/2024 at 1:34 PM, oldmanfan said:

Somewhere between picks 4-8 Roger walks up to the microphone and announces:  We have a trade.  Buffalo has traded (a small boatload of picks) to (team to be named) and is now on the clock.  And we get one of the top 3 rated WRs in the draft.

 

Beane and McD have said they need to get more explosive.  And they’ll do that by getting more explosive with their moves to draft an explosive WR for Josh.

The draft class this year is deep at WR. No way im giving up a ton of picks to move up that far. The value is not there, it won’t happen. If it does, I will gladly eat some crow.

[oldmanfan]

28 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

How so ?

samuel

[BuffaninSarasota]

18 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

samuel

Samuel does not fill the X (boundary) role - at all. Still need that in this draft, preferably in the first round. Getting the role filled with a cost-controlled rookie contract at a premium position is an imperative and makes too much sense - especially with this top end WR draft talent.

 

The AFC is an arms race (esp. with KC in our way) and we cannot afford to not give Allen every weapon possible. 

[transplantbillsfan]

On 3/14/2024 at 7:34 AM, oldmanfan said:

Somewhere between picks 4-8 Roger walks up to the microphone and announces:  We have a trade.  Buffalo has traded (a small boatload of picks) to (team to be named) and is now on the clock.  And we get one of the top 3 rated WRs in the draft.

 

Beane and McD have said they need to get more explosive.  And they’ll do that by getting more explosive with their moves to draft an explosive WR for Josh.

 

That would obviously be for Odunze... maybe Nabers.

 

In 2011 when the Falcons traded up from 27 to 6, they gave up 5 draft picks: 2011 1st, 2nd & 4th round picks and 2012 1st & 4th.

 

I know Beane loves trading up, but I absolutely can't see that happening. The outside outside thing I wonder about is Daboll, Schoein and the Giants sitting there at #6. 

 

How much does Daboll like Diggs? Would it be possible to rework Diggs's contract so it would be possible to trade him as part of a package that doesn't consist of an early draft pick next year?

 

I absolutely don't think it happens because I really believe McBeane still think Diggs is a #1 and they're trying to retool this year while still winning, but that’s the only scenario I see where this is a non-zero chance.

[T master]

On 3/14/2024 at 12:39 PM, LabattBlue said:

Any idea how much draft capital is needed to go from 28 to top 10?  
 

IMO…very very small chance of this happening. 

 

I'm with you !!! This would have to resemble the draft where Ditka gave up every pick to get Williams & although that was a historical draft Beane is in no way going to do that !

 

If there was a player worth it Beane still wouldn't do it, the Bills have more reason to get a boat load of good players to keep it rolling for the future while Josh is still here in order to have any shot at bringing the Lombardi to Buffalo .

 

So even though the OP can fantasize about a move like this it's never going to happen !! 

[BarleyNY]

18 hours ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

Samuel does not fill the X (boundary) role - at all. Still need that in this draft, preferably in the first round. Getting the role filled with a cost-controlled rookie contract at a premium position is an imperative and makes too much sense - especially with this top end WR draft talent.

 

The AFC is an arms race (esp. with KC in our way) and we cannot afford to not give Allen every weapon possible. 

 

I agree. I think that’s the smart play. However I can see the Bills going DE in round 1 and WR in round 2. Right now this team has virtually no pass rush juice. None of our DEs can pressure the QB with any reliability and at DT it’s pretty much just Oliver. Admittedly, there are a lot less quality DE prospects than quality WR prospects this draft so there is certainly a defensible logic to going DE first. But the risk of undermining the offense isn’t worth it IMO. That’s what I’m concerned about. I don’t know that McDermott will be able to help himself. He’s always prioritized his defense.