Warriorspikes51 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: If I have to spell it out for you I will We do not have a personnel problem on defense. Our defense routinely bodybags the regular season. We have a postseason coaching/philosophy problem on defense this may be part of the problem for sure. Getting a player who has been to multiple Super Bowls from a great defense can certainly help 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: with the way we value rotation and versatility on the DL Beane was probably going crazy when he found out about Armstead. Not to mention the guy is a multi-year team Captain on a great defense & Walter Man of the Year nominee 4 times Once we hear his best offer, Beane can pull whatever levers are needed I see you dodged the second part 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 This happens every year. He is this years DHop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 41 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Apparently his wife is a local gal. That might be all there is to this. Local gal ? You mean she's 5'1 and 180 ? She's all hips and lips.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, BillsFanForever19 said: I see you dodged the second part 😆 okay you, that tears it! Letsgo!! Outside put em up duke it out🤣 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag of Milk Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 18 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Over Oliver? No way. Like I said if you actually follow football you would know he would be a starter on the Bills. Yes way. Add up snap percentage and by the end of the year his would be higher than Olivers or Jones. Edited March 14 by Bag of Milk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 2 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: It would have to be a financial sacrifice that would still result in a decent payday, where the payoff is greater domestic happiness, and an appreciative wife. Somehow, I don't find that notion completely impossible to believe. Human flourishing can't just be summed up by purely economic calculation. Again, I find it very funny to me how quickly everyone is to once again pile all sorts of money into the Defensive Line after years of running Beane over the coals for it. Now it's just like - "big name FA?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Local gal ? You mean she's 5'1 and 180 ? She's all hips and lips.... Leave my wife's name out your mouth!👋 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 28 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Who ever does? Not Ed Oliver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobilz Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 3 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Local gal ? You mean she's 5'1 and 180 ? She's all hips and lips.... Electric boys 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, BuffAlone said: Leave my wife's name out your mouth!👋 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: okay you, that tears it! Letsgo!! Outside put em up duke it out🤣 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, BillsFanForever19 said: Again, I find it very funny to me how quickly everyone is to once again pile all sorts of money into the Defensive Line after years of running Beane over the coals for it. Now it's just like - "big name FA?" What I want are difference makers. If we can add one that makes a difference on the DL, and grab another at WR in the draft, I think I'm okay with that. And probably it won't happen, but you know, life is too short not to have fun with something that doesn't really cost anything but permitting a little bit of hope, even if it's unlikely. 4 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 17 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: In the eternal battle between Warriorspikes51 and BillsFanForever19, I think you have more ammo than usual on this one. Post of the day goes to you sir! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 11 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: It would have to be a financial sacrifice that would still result in a decent payday, where the payoff is greater domestic happiness, and an appreciative wife. Somehow, I don't find that notion completely impossible to believe. Human flourishing can't just be summed up by purely economic calculation. 💯 great post. His family and future generations are set for life. If you reach that point in life, I feel one should live where they can spend as much time as possible with their loved ones. 8 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: What I want are difference makers. If we can add one that makes a difference on the DL, and grab another at WR in the draft, I think I'm okay with that. And probably it won't happen, but you know, life is too short not to have fun with something that doesn't really cost anything but permitting a little bit of hope, even if it's unlikely. Not on @BillsFanForever19’s watch!! He’s got this on lockdown my man!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 29 minutes ago, Bag of Milk said: Also,despite being injured he still had 8 or 9 pressures, so there's that. Armstead WOULD be starting. yes I think this is true as well. or at least getting i higher percentage of snaps due his very good abilities to play all along the line This one would have me (GM) thinking pretty hard. Even at 31 If he is back to completely healthy ? have to look hard at this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 I mean the guy is a good player but how many Dlineman do we need? Seriously..it’s nice to have these guys buy you have a lot of holes. I truly don’t even want this guy if not only because we need too much. You 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 17 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: What I want are difference makers. If we can add one that makes a difference on the DL, and grab another at WR in the draft, I think I'm okay with that. And probably it won't happen, but you know, life is too short not to have fun with something that doesn't really cost anything but permitting a little bit of hope, even if it's unlikely. A couple true Alpha difference makers vs. Rotating JAG's would be nice. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I mean the guy is a good player but how many Dlineman do we need? Seriously..it’s nice to have these guys buy you have a lot of holes. I truly don’t even want this guy if not only because we need too much. You They do need an upgrade there and Armstead is a massive talent upgrade. IMO, there are two ways to beat Mahomes…sack him or score 60 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 3 minutes ago, NewEra said: 💯 great post. His family and future generations are set for life. If you reach that point in life, I feel one should live where they can spend as much time as possible with their loved ones. Not on @BillsFanForever19’s watch!! He’s got this on lockdown my man!! If that's what Beane chooses to do, hey, it's his team. I wouldn't hate having him on the team. But if we've got the money to match the best offer in a 10 team market battle for a big star like Armstead - than that's money that should go to an Offensive piece, in my opinion. The board has been saying that for years. It's wild to me that everyone's now doing a 180. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 21 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Again, I find it very funny to me how quickly everyone is to once again pile all sorts of money into the Defensive Line after years of running Beane over the coals for it. Now it's just like - "big name FA?" The two WRs can and should come from the draft Hey i didnt get on the chargers' Mike Williams Band wagon...yet 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 16 minutes ago, Bag of Milk said: Like I said if you actually follow football you would know he would be a starter on the Bills. Yes way. Add up snap percentage and by the end of the year his would be higher than Olivers or Jones. He is not going to outsnap Ed Oliver. Oliver lead our team in snaps last year as a 25 year old. A 30 year old DT is not coming in and becoming our snap count leader. It will be Ed Oliver again, especially after his breakout year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RG Murdock Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 18 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Again, I find it very funny to me how quickly everyone is to once again pile all sorts of money into the Defensive Line after years of running Beane over the coals for it. Now it's just like - "big name FA?" Hey - loosen up Mr. tight azz. Everybody has a right to dream a little. This is highly unlikely. But it's still fun to contemplate. It's what's great about sports. You must be great at parity's. I'm sure you've never bought a lotto ticket and dreamed a little? Go watch C-Span or something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 2 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: They do need an upgrade there and Armstead is a massive talent upgrade. IMO, there are two ways to beat Mahomes…sack him or score 60 Or Both , 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I mean the guy is a good player but how many Dlineman do we need? Seriously..it’s nice to have these guys buy you have a lot of holes. I truly don’t even want this guy if not only because we need too much. You He’s a beast when healthy. Problem being, he hasn’t been very healthy for the last couple years. Battling numerous nagging injuries. He’s a massive man. Might be the body is breaking down. that said, he’s a beast when healthy and can be moved all around the line. 4th and short- Rousseau-Oliver-Daquan-Armstead. Oh my would he take 5M to play 50% of the snaps? Edited March 14 by NewEra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, NewEra said: He’s a beast when healthy. Problem being, he hasn’t been very healthy for the last couple years. Battling numerous nagging injuries. He’s a massive man. Might be the body is breaking down. that said, he’s a beast when healthy and can be moved all around the line. 4th and short- Armstead-Oliver-Daquan-Armstead. Oh my would he take 5M to play 50% of the snaps? He can play multiple positions at the same time?!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: that said, he’s a beast when healthy and can be moved all around the line. 4th and short- Armstead-Oliver-Daquan-Armstead. Oh my would he take 5M to play 50% of the snaps? he’s so good you cloned him to play both DE spots😎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: He is not going to outsnap Ed Oliver. Oliver lead our team in snaps last year as a 25 year old. A 30 year old DT is not coming in and becoming our snap count leader. It will be Ed Oliver again, especially after his breakout year. No . Nor should he But he might well be next in line for snap counts, due to versatility ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 I'd be surprised if the Bills signed him. It doesn't seem like a fit given their current cap situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 hour ago, GoBills808 said: spending what little cap we have left on an old defensive lineman how original Seriously. As if Beane would EVER spend money on an old defensive lineman!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 3 minutes ago, NewEra said: He’s a beast when healthy. Problem being, he hasn’t been very healthy for the last couple years. Battling numerous nagging injuries. He’s a massive man. Might be the body is breaking down. that said, he’s a beast when healthy and can be moved all around the line. 4th and short- Armstead-Oliver-Daquan-Armstead. Oh my would he take 5M to play 50% of the snaps? I’d guess 3 years for 36 Million with incentives to 42 is a good offer. We’d add void years and bring the hit down this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, BigAl2526 said: I'd be surprised if the Bills signed him. It doesn't seem like a fit given their current cap situation. Agreed. And they are already paying Oliver and jones pretty well Hard to imagine they pay good money to 3 DTs in a tight cap situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 58 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Who ever does? Von did. When he was Von. 58 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Who ever does? Von did. When he was Von. 58 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Who ever does? Von did. When he was Von. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 3 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: If that's what Beane chooses to do, hey, it's his team. I wouldn't hate having him on the team. But if we've got the money to match the best offer in a 10 team market battle for a big star like Armstead - than that's money that should go to an Offensive piece, in my opinion. The board has been saying that for years. It's wild to me that everyone's now doing a 180. I don’t think anyone is thinking that we’ll be matching any best offer for Armstead. If you’ve made 80M in your career and had an opportunity to take a job in the same city as your wife’s medical practice and her family, would you? I would assume she would love that. Some hubbys do what makes their wives happy. They’re swimming in $ already. Happiness. Jordan Poyer has made a fraction of what Armstead has made in his career and he signed a 2M deal to play in the city where his family lives. I bet he could’ve gotten more than 2M on the open market. But he didn’t care about the money in this case. He wanted to be home with his family. Maybe Armstead feels the same 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 58 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Who ever does? Von did. When he was Von. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 9 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: If that's what Beane chooses to do, hey, it's his team. I wouldn't hate having him on the team. But if we've got the money to match the best offer in a 10 team market battle for a big star like Armstead - than that's money that should go to an Offensive piece, in my opinion. The board has been saying that for years. It's wild to me that everyone's now doing a 180. Where are you getting ten teams competing for him from? Besides, we have zero depth at DT. I’m sorry but a draft pick isn’t going to be much of a difference maker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, Gugny said: Seriously. As if Beane would EVER spend money on an old defensive lineman!! Yes everyone knows adding old defensive lineman w super bowl pedigree like von Miller and linval Joseph is how you win championships 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 5 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: He can play multiple positions at the same time?!!! maybe? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, Green Lightning said: Von did. When he was Von. Von did. When he was Von. Von did. When he was Von. So, I think you’re trying to say Von does? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I’d guess 3 years for 36 Million with incentives to 42 is a good offer. We’d add void years and bring the hit down this year Nah, I wouldn’t pay him that much. Not even close. Dude is always broken. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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