Gunsgoodtime Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 5 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said: This is all great in theory, but until it’s done, it’s not done. Beane has until 4pm on March 13th to get his top 51 contracts under the 2024 cap. Even if he accomplishes that goal, he still needs to clear another 10-11 million to sign his draft picks and at least 20 mill more to complete his roster unless he chooses to just use draft picks and guys on futures/reserve deals as his depth next season. A team with 101 million cap space beat us with a max capped roster last year, plus Zach Wilson, and Russel Wilson. Can't wait to see what Mcdefense has to offer this year. It should open some eyes at least 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 On 3/3/2024 at 7:47 PM, Punching Bag said: And he is also a good representative to the community. Gotta keep his shirt on though😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 2 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said: This is all great in theory, but until it’s done, it’s not done. Beane has until 4pm on March 13th to get his top 51 contracts under the 2024 cap. Even if he accomplishes that goal, he still needs to clear another 10-11 million to sign his draft picks and at least 20 mill more to complete his roster unless he chooses to just use draft picks and guys on futures/reserve deals as his depth next season. Didn't you just say he has until 4pm on March 13th so it's not optional. Don't worry bud, every year he gets where he needs too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFan Posted March 6 Author Share Posted March 6 17 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Didn't you just say he has until 4pm on March 13th so it's not optional. Don't worry bud, every year he gets where he needs too. I think you missed the point of my post. Getting under the cap isn’t really the issue. Getting far enough under the cap to sign the draft picks and build roster depth is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Just now, GASabresIUFan said: I think you missed the point of my post. Getting under the cap isn’t really the issue. Getting far enough under the cap to sign the draft picks and build roster depth is. We aren't going to be players in FA for the first wave,we just can't do it. We will most likely wait until after we draft to make moves and or after June 1st cuts. When you start 50 mill over the cap,that's just how it usually pans out. We have to finally rely on the team they have already drafted and hopefully developed along with this year's draft picks. It's just time for one year to put the brakes on spending,and I for one am ok with that. Which means Beane will ha e some massive FA move day 1 on Free agency 🤣 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 2 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said: I think you missed the point of my post. Getting under the cap isn’t really the issue. Getting far enough under the cap to sign the draft picks and build roster depth is. I'm sure he'll have enough to get his draft picks signed. On the other hand, high priced FAs on opening day of FA is likely not in the works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtnatefootball11 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Can we get this thread pinned? Things are going to start moving fast here would be nice to have a concise spot to go to look at all moves. I'm sure many will contribute to keeping it updated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 (edited) Even though we don't have much cap space (currently none at all).. I'm still pretty excited about this upcoming week. For me, it's going to tell quite a bit about the direction of this organization. The Bates trade was an interesting move I hadn't really thought much about until it happened. Do we see more of that? Or do we get the Allen restructure plus a couple extensions and call it a day.. For some, that's all they want. It would signify that they're "running it back" to the extent they can. For others, like myself, I want to see a vision beyond that.. because that has not been enough. Edited March 6 by SCBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Lost a bit of my enthusiasm when Beane signalled we're keep an older costly average center in Morse. Likely he'll be extended which is just a miss in my book. All these extensions may put us in dead cap Hell again. Follow KC's lead and move on from older or expensive players. Draft well and play them, not observe them for a few years like McClappy is inclined to do. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 26 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: Lost a bit of my enthusiasm when Beane signalled we're keep an older costly average center in Morse. Likely he'll be extended which is just a miss in my book. All these extensions may put us in dead cap Hell again. Follow KC's lead and move on from older or expensive players. Draft well and play them, not observe them for a few years like McClappy is inclined to do. Morse is older - but he isn't old in terms of linemen just yet. He played great in '23 and could easily have at least 3 more years at a high level. I think the team is moving more youthful in quite a few areas, but keeping a few vet leaders around is always a good idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 3 hours ago, Success said: Morse is older - but he isn't old in terms of linemen just yet. He played great in '23 and could easily have at least 3 more years at a high level. I think the team is moving more youthful in quite a few areas, but keeping a few vet leaders around is always a good idea. True OL's can play into their 30's. I just don't think Morse is worth his cap hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospector Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I need the OP to be updated a lot faster, can someone wake him up? is he on the Buddy Nix Free agency nap time schedule? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Does anyone have any updated number for the cap and where we are at after all the moves made so far today? Please and thank you. 🤘 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 7 minutes ago, BBFL said: Does anyone have any updated number for the cap and where we are at after all the moves made so far today? Please and thank you. 🤘 It's moving so fast that nobody knows. By the end of the day we will be $100m under the cap lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Beane is now.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Anxiously awaiting one of our cap/math wizards to give us a new total w/ the flurry of moves today.... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 4 hours ago, Green Lightning said: Lost a bit of my enthusiasm when Beane signalled we're keep an older costly average center in Morse. Likely he'll be extended which is just a miss in my book. All these extensions may put us in dead cap Hell again. Follow KC's lead and move on from older or expensive players. Draft well and play them, not observe them for a few years like McClappy is inclined to do. This aged well 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 minute ago, Success said: Anxiously awaiting one of our cap/math wizards to give us a new total w/ the flurry of moves today.... Negative teens, maybe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 minute ago, Success said: Anxiously awaiting one of our cap/math wizards to give us a new total w/ the flurry of moves today.... Exactly what I came in here to try to find. Wonder where they are now, and that’s without an Allen restructure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFan Posted March 6 Author Share Posted March 6 (edited) 8 moves today - Cap savings up to a net of just over $33 million. Moves coming so fast it's hard to keep up. A Josh restructure will put us on the positive side of the ledger, but who is going to play center with Morse and Bates cut or traded? I suspect they'll re-sign Morse once the FA period starts. With Haack's return, how soon until Martin is released. Edited March 6 by GASabresIUFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtnatefootball11 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 (edited) 4 hours ago, Green Lightning said: Lost a bit of my enthusiasm when Beane signalled we're keep an older costly average center in Morse. Likely he'll be extended which is just a miss in my book. All these extensions may put us in dead cap Hell again. Follow KC's lead and move on from older or expensive players. Draft well and play them, not observe them for a few years like McClappy is inclined to do. I gave you the eyeball roll reaction but this post aged quite nicely for you, apparently Beane agrees with you! Props, I didn't see it coming. Maybe Beane was playing his cards close the vest or Morse wasn't willing to play ball with a restructure. Either way, with the news on McGovern moving to center and Edwards to LG (and of course the cap savings) I'm starting to see the light. Edited March 6 by vtnatefootball11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Success said: Anxiously awaiting one of our cap/math wizards to give us a new total w/ the flurry of moves today.... Spotrac is fully updated: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap// We are still $19,782,663 OVER the cap, but a simple restructure of Allen's contract will get us under. And there are still plenty of potential moves to be made. Edited March 6 by HappyDays 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 *Marked Safe* from being released by Brandon Beane. Seriously, Tre White is the only big ‘cap savings’ guy left. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: Spotrac is fully updated: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap// We are still $19,782,663 OVER the cap, but a simple restructure of Allen's contract will get us back in the positive. And there are still plenty of potential moves to be made. Hines still on Spotrac so not officially released yet 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 18 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said: Beane is now.. more like.. NOW DO VON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Just now, HappyDays said: Spotrac is fully updated: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap// We are still $19,782,663 OVER the cap, but a simple restructure of Allen's contract will get us under. And there are still plenty of potential moves to be made. Came to post this. Fully updated with today's move including Douglas, but Hines is oddly still there. Not sure if they don't think it's official or what. So if Hines is really released, we are at -$15m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLinALLEN Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Wheres the "I kinda wish Beane would start doing something" guy from like Monday this week? lmao 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Spotrac is fully updated: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap// We are still $19,782,663 OVER the cap, but a simple restructure of Allen's contract will get us under. And there are still plenty of potential moves to be made. Hynes is still there though. So probably closer to $15m over right now. And if Beane is cutting Poyer and Morse, gotta think Tre and Von don’t survive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtnatefootball11 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Hynes is still there though. So probably closer to $15m over right now. And if Beane is cutting Poyer and Morse, gotta think Tre and Von don’t survive. Von will survive, it's too prohibitive to cut him outright this year. Plus there is a chance he rebounds to near 2022 form and we are thin at DE on the roster as is. Tre will likely restructure but if he's unwilling then yeah he's a goner. There is just no way he can be an elite corner again after those back to back major lower body injuries. Edited March 6 by vtnatefootball11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 3 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: more like.. NOW DO VON Indeed. My pic was after Poyer but before Morse and Harty... And I think the spree will keep going... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfpack78 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 5 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: *Marked Safe* from being released by Brandon Beane. Seriously, Tre White is the only big ‘cap savings’ guy left. Tre cut per Schefter. Don't know how to embed tweets. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 (edited) 7 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Spotrac is fully updated: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap// We are still $19,782,663 OVER the cap, but a simple restructure of Allen's contract will get us back in the positive. And there are still plenty of potential moves to be made. yes, Tre is a likely the next cut as doing it before 3/18 saves us an additional 1.5 million (6 million total toward the cap instead of 4.5 after 3/18) others to watch out for are Taron who if cut would save 7.5 million (though maybe they extend him instead). Gilliam would save about $1.9 million and Sam Martin about $1.3 million. Good thing we have all those draft picks this year! Edited March 6 by LEBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 minute ago, wolfpack78 said: Tre cut per Schefter. Don't know how to embed tweets. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 After listening to that Jim Monos interview this morning, then seeing all of this, I'm pretty pumped for Free Agency... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 minute ago, The Wiz said: Someone will sign him at the vet minimum if he can pass a physical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Bills are literally almost cap complaint now with Tres release without Allen’s restructure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospector Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Players that could be Cap Casualties looking around, trying to avoid Beane today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Bates traded. Poyer, Morse, Harty, Neal and now Tre released. Beane is in total "Scorched Earth" mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Not certain if all these moves are the right ones — though I'm leaning most if not all are necessary — but the wholesale cutting spree is oddly satisfying and cathartic. Most logical people though we couldn't "run it back" and expect better results with an aging roster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Edit by BuffaloBill (moderator): I thought I would create one thread and do the following: Merge the current cap projection threads Provide a daily update for 2024 in the first post from sportrac and over the cap as being primary sources While not a reliable # yet, update daily, in the first post, the 2025 projections from the same sources The remainder of the thread will contain “normal” chatter on the topic. 2024 projections 3/7/2024 - 9:00 AM: Sportrac $7,462,633 Over Overthecap $9,052,381 Over 2025 projections 3/7/2024 - 9:00 AM: Sportrac $38,898,522 Under Overthecap $29,041,425 Under ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Original Thread Start by SoonerBillsFan: Just checked,they seem to be keeping up in real time. But...I don't see how the moves today get us from 42 over to just 19 over. Something has to have happened we haven't heard about yet? 2 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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