Diggs cryptic comments - 2024 edition

[SoonerBillsFan]

7 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said:

Seems like Diggs has been sort of waging war with the Bills for a while. Can’t be helping chemistry. 
 

Wasn’t there a rumor that Allen hooked up with his girlfriend, or ex or something? There’s definitely been some bad blood there anyway. 

I'm just ready to move on from him.  He has regressed on the field, dissappears every KC game, and he isn't an impact come the playoffs.

 

We are paying a #2 WR #1 money. Just move on.  Hell KC doesn't have Diggs and not only makes,but wins superbowls. We will be fine without him.

[What a Tuel]

I came to see what he said that was so cryptic bc i dont want to feed the media, and this has got to be the most ridiculous "cryptic" tweet to go on lmao. "ready for whatever" gets fans to say "IM DONE WITH THIS DRAMA QUEEN" "TRADE HIM" "GET RID OF HIM"

 

Like honestly at this point he is trolling the media, and the media is trolling you.

[FireChans]

22 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said:

Seems like Diggs has been sort of waging war with the Bills for a while. Can’t be helping chemistry. 
 

Wasn’t there a rumor that Allen hooked up with his girlfriend, or ex or something? There’s definitely been some bad blood there anyway. 

Many folks have reported that there was a point where Allen and Diggs were not on speaking terms and that Allen had to be the bigger person and cobble together some kind of working relationship.

[SaulGoodman]

29 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I'm just ready to move on from him.  He has regressed on the field, dissappears every KC game, and he isn't an impact come the playoffs.

 

We are paying a #2 WR #1 money. Just move on.  Hell KC doesn't have Diggs and not only makes,but wins superbowls. We will be fine without him.

Weird season for him. A bunch of 100 yd games in the first half, but barely a factor in most games down the stretch. 

[Boatdrinks]

44 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Many folks have reported that there was a point where Allen and Diggs were not on speaking terms and that Allen had to be the bigger person and cobble together some kind of working relationship.

What “ folks are these ? Do we know if there is any validity to this at all ? 

[Man with No Name]

11 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

That ship has sailed.  With his salary probably a mid round pick 

while his cap hit is enormous for us, he is only making 18 mill per season, next two. a bargain if you think Diggs is still Diggs. 

[Einstein's Dog]

1 hour ago, What a Tuel said:

I came to see what he said that was so cryptic bc i dont want to feed the media, and this has got to be the most ridiculous "cryptic" tweet to go on lmao. "ready for whatever" gets fans to say "IM DONE WITH THIS DRAMA QUEEN" "TRADE HIM" "GET RID OF HIM"

 

Like honestly at this point he is trolling the media, and the media is trolling you.

The "Ready for watever" would be a reasonable tweet if you think Beane approached Diggs for a pay cut and Diggs turned him down.

[FireChans]

19 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

What “ folks are these ? Do we know if there is any validity to this at all ? 

Folks that I trust that definitely have sources within the org.

 

I have no idea the “why” behind it and neither did they.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

You know what would be funny?

 

If Diggs was actually totally happy here (like he’s said) and planned on retiring here (like he’s said) and was a great teammate (like players have said). 

 

 

Yet the constant BS from the sports media and seemingly 50% of the fan base that fall for it made him decide to go elsewhere. He would probably never have a good thing to say about ‘Bills Mafia’ after, and rightfully so. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

18 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

The "Ready for watever" would be a reasonable tweet if you think Beane approached Diggs for a pay cut and Diggs turned him down.

I hope so and he said no. Then we can trade him.

[FireChans]

3 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

You know what would be funny?

 

If Diggs was actually totally happy here (like he’s said) and planned on retiring here (like he’s said) and was a great teammate (like players have said). 

 

 

Yet the constant BS from the sports media and seemingly 50% of the fan base that fall for it made him decide to go elsewhere. He would probably never have a good thing to say about ‘Bills Mafia’ after, and rightfully so. 

Ah the old “running them out of town” argument. Because Brandon Beane and Stef are deciding their futures based on TBD commentary.

 

This is the same type of comment we got with Trent and Fitz and Tyrod and Mario Williams all the other dudes who sucked who got “ran out of town by the fans.” Spoiler alert: they still ***** sucked after they left.
 

Let’s make it simple. If you are going to make the argument that the fans are “running a player out of town,” that’s proof positive the player sucks. You are admitting Diggs sucks.

[Ya Digg?]

3 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

You know what would be funny?

 

If Diggs was actually totally happy here (like he’s said) and planned on retiring here (like he’s said) and was a great teammate (like players have said). 

 

 

Yet the constant BS from the sports media and seemingly 50% of the fan base that fall for it made him decide to go elsewhere. He would probably never have a good thing to say about ‘Bills Mafia’ after, and rightfully so. 

I wonder how poorly past athletes would be viewed if social media was around when they played. Think of those Bills teams that went to the Super Bowl-they weren't good dudes. Even in other sports, I guarantee you Michael Jordan would not be as revered and worshipped like he is. Outstanding competitor but countless stories of him being an extreme POS. Sometimes fans believing they should have all of this access to the players is not a good thing 

[SCBills]

Just now, TheyCallMeAndy said:

You know what would be funny?

 

If Diggs was actually totally happy here (like he’s said) and planned on retiring here (like he’s said) and was a great teammate (like players have said). 

 

 

Yet the constant BS from the sports media and seemingly 50% of the fan base that fall for it made him decide to go elsewhere. He would probably never have a good thing to say about ‘Bills Mafia’ after, and rightfully so. 

Yea, this is not it, but even if it was.. his play on the field last year didn’t come close to warranting his $$$.  What do NFL teams usually do when that becomes the case?  They move on, if possible.  For us, it may or may not be possible.

 

My guess.. Diggs is available, but due to the cap pain we’d face by trading him, it has to be worth it .. and I’m guessing we’ve gotten offers that aren’t worth it. 
 

Props to him for owning up publicly to the drop against KC.. a big part of my change in view from him post-CIN (favorable) to post-KC (unfavorable) is that he doesn’t step up in the biggest moments and, on top of it, seems incapable of owning up to that.  Seeing some self-reflection from him is a welcome sight.. now if he’s here this season and could step up in a big playoff moment, that would be great. 

[Coach Tuesday]

This is you:

 

[Einstein's Dog]

3 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I hope so and he said no. Then we can trade him.

I think that's what Diggs is preparing for, something to possibly happen to him because his employer asked him to take a pay cut and he wouldn't do it.  Diggs isn't saying he wants out, he is saying he is not going to give up the contracted money.  But saying no to your employer can make you uneasy.

 

By most accounts it seems a toothless threat.  If the spotrac numbers are to be believed the Bills lose way more than they gain by cutting Diggs loose or trading him (caveat - spotrac doesn't know all the details of the contracts).

 

So yeah, Diggs may be poking Beane, but you know, maybe Beane deserved it.  If Beane crafted the contract the way it's reported by spotrac (when there are ways to structure deals that have tradeable pieces in them), that's on Beane.  And as Diggs showed, he has been living up to WR1 #s the last 4 years.

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, Einstein's Dog said:

I think that's what Diggs is preparing for, something to possibly happen to him because his employer asked him to take a pay cut and he wouldn't do it.  Diggs isn't saying he wants out, he is saying he is not going to give up the contracted money.  But saying no to your employer can make you uneasy.

 

By most accounts it seems a toothless threat.  If the spotrac numbers are to be believed the Bills lose way more than they gain by cutting Diggs loose or trading him (caveat - spotrac doesn't know all the details of the contracts).

 

So yeah, Diggs may be poking Beane, but you know, maybe Beane deserved it.  If Beane crafted the contract the way it's reported by spotrac (when there are ways to structure deals that have tradeable pieces in them), that's on Beane.  And as Diggs showed, he has been living up to WR1 #s the last 4 years.

WR1’s step up in the playoffs.

 

Even Hill had 5 for 62 and a TD against KC in a game where his QB couldn’t even throw the ball in the cold. 

[BillsFan4]

12 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

It's a different day and age. This is what people born in the mid 90s and 2000's do. It is what it is. 

 

 

It's not so different than a lot of players. Ever looked at Rasul Douglas' Twitter account?

 

The difference is Diggs is an NFL Celebrity. Everything he says or does captures the fan and medias attention. Is it his fault that everyone chooses to play the Da Vinci Code with everything he says or does? Should he stop being him just bc people hold him to a different standard?

Exactly.

 

Simple solution for everyone:

 

just stop reading into/paying attention to every little thing Diggs tweets.

Problem solved! 😮‍💨 

 

 

people read into every little thing Diggs tweets, then blame him for it… 🤷‍♂️ even though he’s said over & over he wants to retire a Buffalo Bill.

Edited March 17 by BillsFan4

[SinceThe70s]

18 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Ah the old “running them out of town” argument. Because Brandon Beane and Stef are deciding their futures based on TBD commentary.

 

This is the same type of comment we got with Trent and Fitz and Tyrod and Mario Williams all the other dudes who sucked who got “ran out of town by the fans.” Spoiler alert: they still ***** sucked after they left.
 

Let’s make it simple. If you are going to make the argument that the fans are “running a player out of town,” that’s proof positive the player sucks. You are admitting Diggs sucks.

 

Do you think Diggs sucks?

[oldmanfan]

None of us have a clue what’s really going on in the locker room.  If he’s a distraction trade him and set up the offense around Kincaid and Knox, and draft a potential #1 WR this year.  If he’s not a distraction then roll with it.

[zow2]

If Diggs stays fine, if they can find a way to trade him fine.   Either way the Bills will be OK.  

[Einstein's Dog]

3 minutes ago, SCBills said:

WR1’s step up in the playoffs.

 

Even Hill had 5 for 62 and a TD against KC in a game where his QB couldn’t even throw the ball in the cold. 

Pretty small sample size.

 

If Diggs is moved this year we would have to call it a rebuild year with a goal of sneaking into the playoffs.

[SoonerBillsFan]

4 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

I think that's what Diggs is preparing for, something to possibly happen to him because his employer asked him to take a pay cut and he wouldn't do it.  Diggs isn't saying he wants out, he is saying he is not going to give up the contracted money.  But saying no to your employer can make you uneasy.

 

By most accounts it seems a toothless threat.  If the spotrac numbers are to be believed the Bills lose way more than they gain by cutting Diggs loose or trading him (caveat - spotrac doesn't know all the details of the contracts).

 

So yeah, Diggs may be poking Beane, but you know, maybe Beane deserved it.  If Beane crafted the contract the way it's reported by spotrac (when there are ways to structure deals that have tradeable pieces in them), that's on Beane.  And as Diggs showed, he has been living up to WR1 #s the last 4 years.

No he hasn't.  He has put up what I call "fluff stats" during the regular season ( at least until the 2nd half of23') . Where has he been when it mattered? KC,Cincinnati,Playoffs?  He has been taken out of the game and or just disappeared.  I don't want to hear him say he wishes he had the deep ball drop back.  I want this alleged #1, all pro to make the damn catch.

 

He is a #2 at best when the stakes are biggest, but paid like a #1.   Beane needs to take the hit and get what he can for him.

 

And Josh doesn't need Diggs anymore.  He isn't a 2nd year player, he is a veteran going into his 7th season.  He doesn't need a "Diggs" to hold his hand or help him develop any longer.

[FireChans]

Just now, SinceThe70s said:

 

Do you think Diggs sucks?

Nah, I think he’s declining. Not sure if he sucks yet. We will likely see in 2024 if his last ten games were an aberration or a reflection of his current ability. 
 

However, this phenomenon is well documented. If a player is purported to be “run out of town,” they do obviously suck. EJ got “ran out of town.” It’s the kiss of death for a career. Arguing that Diggs is being run out of town by the fans is very bad.

 

The sister clause is “if there’s a huge amount topics about you being a franchise QB, you aren’t one.”

 

When was the last time Josh had a “is he the guy” topic? Probably 2019?
 

How many did Tyrod and Fitz get? Thousands.

 

How many did Fields get? Thousands. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

1 minute ago, Einstein's Dog said:

Pretty small sample size.

 

If Diggs is moved this year we would have to call it a rebuild year with a goal of sneaking into the playoffs.

Diggs isn't good enough to say that.  We have Allen, Kincaid, Samuel, milano, Oliver etal.

 

Allen,not Diggs, is why we make the playoffs.

[harmonkillebrew]

Didn't Diggs catch 100+ balls again this year? He owns the top...what...4 receiving seasons in Bills history? The guy is good, still good

But he needs a better sidekick.  

Time to invest a 1st in a WR.

[Einstein's Dog]

3 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

No he hasn't.  He has put up what I call "fluff stats" during the regular season ( at least until the 2nd half of23') . Where has he been when it mattered? KC,Cincinnati,Playoffs?  He has been taken out of the game and or just disappeared.  I don't want to hear him say he wishes he had the deep ball drop back.  I want this alleged #1, all pro to make the damn catch.

 

He is a #2 at best when the stakes are biggest, but paid like a #1.   Beane needs to take the hit and get what he can for him.

 

And Josh doesn't need Diggs anymore.  He isn't a 2nd year player, he is a veteran going into his 7th season.  He doesn't need a "Diggs" to hold his hand or help him develop any longer.

If Beane takes the hit on Diggs this year then the Bills as a team will be worse for it this year.  They will have another hole to fill.

[BananaB]

4 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

Pretty small sample size.

 

If Diggs is moved this year we would have to call it a rebuild year with a goal of sneaking into the playoffs.

Yes, he had a huge hand in their 7 game winning streak after the bye. His performance was unmatched. Lmafao

[BarleyNY]

13 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Didn’t Dallas and Cleveland do a trade with Cooper that involved a partial dead cap hit transfer or am I recalling that wrong?  
 

Or maybe a deal could involve a reworked contract to lessen the hits? 
 

No idea how that works

 

There is no possible way to trade away dead cap from money that has already been paid to a player. If a player with future guaranteed salary or bonuses is cut, then that amount becomes dead cap. So trading away a player with future guaranteed money is a way to avoid taking that as dead cap. Take the situation with Diggs and his now guaranteed salary as a good example. If we were to cut him, that adds to the dead cap. If we were to trade him, it would not

 

As for the Amari Cooper trade, he didn't have any guaranteed money left on his deal when Dallas traded him to Cleveland. 

[Ya Digg?]

4 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

No he hasn't.  He has put up what I call "fluff stats" during the regular season ( at least until the 2nd half of23') . Where has he been when it mattered? KC,Cincinnati,Playoffs?  He has been taken out of the game and or just disappeared.  I don't want to hear him say he wishes he had the deep ball drop back.  I want this alleged #1, all pro to make the damn catch.

 

He is a #2 at best when the stakes are biggest, but paid like a #1.   Beane needs to take the hit and get what he can for him.

 

And Josh doesn't need Diggs anymore.  He isn't a 2nd year player, he is a veteran going into his 7th season.  He doesn't need a "Diggs" to hold his hand or help him develop any longer.

So by your own thinking Diggs value has never been lower, so why would they trade him now? You don’t get “what you can” for him, if you trade him it’s because you are getting some value back, otherwise keep him. Getting “what you can” will tank this team a lot sooner than keeping him will. He’s a distraction, so what? Literally every other top receiver in the league is a distraction too 

[FireChans]

Just now, Ya Digg? said:

So by your own thinking Diggs value has never been lower, so why would they trade him now? You don’t get “what you can” for him, if you trade him it’s because you are getting some value back, otherwise keep him. Getting “what you can” will tank this team a lot sooner than keeping him will. He’s a distraction, so what? Literally every other top receiver in the league is a distraction too 

Because his value can get even lower still?

[SCBills]

6 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

If Beane takes the hit on Diggs this year then the Bills as a team will be worse for it this year.  They will have another hole to fill.

That’s why I think he’s available but for a pick worthwhile.

 

I don’t think anyone is offering us that.

 

…but if someone were to offer us a 2nd, allowing us to double dip in the Top 60 of a potentially all-time WR class, I’d have to think that’s appealing to Beane. 
 

And im not writing off the season with that infusion of talent just because it’s young. 

[Hsker4life]

I don’t think Diggs sucks. He’s a WR1, but not a Top10-15 one anymore IMO. But what bothers me the most about last year is seeing him check himself out of the game so often and on very key downs.

[Einstein's Dog]

20 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Diggs isn't good enough to say that.  We have Allen, Kincaid, Samuel, milano, Oliver etal.

 

Allen,not Diggs, is why we make the playoffs.

C'mon, a penciled in starting WR duo of Samuel and Shakir would have to be in consideration for the worst WR duo in the league. 

 

That's unfair to Josh and Bills fans across the nation,.

[FireChans]

1 minute ago, Einstein's Dog said:

C'mon, a penciled in starting WR duo of Samuel and Shakir would have to be in consideration for the worst WR duo in the league. 

 

That's unfair to Josh and Bills fans across the nation,.

If there was ever a year to take some medicine on Diggs and have 2-3 rookie WR’s learning and growing with Josh, it’s probably this year.

[Einstein]

36 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

Pretty small sample size.

 

If Diggs is moved this year we would have to call it a rebuild year with a goal of sneaking into the playoffs.

There are no rebuild years when you have a franchise QB.

The Chiefs lost Tyreek Hill, Byron Pringle and Demarcus Robinson in one offseason.

That was a loss of 178 receptions.

They then won the Super Bowl. 

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said:

What “ folks are these ? Do we know if there is any validity to this at all ? 

 

Some people on this board who are known to have some inside sources in the Bills posted this.  I'll try to find the posts.

But they aren't "LAMP"ers and it wasn't brought up in a gossipy way, so I'm inclined to give it some credibility.

[Einstein's Dog]

15 minutes ago, FireChans said:

If there was ever a year to take some medicine on Diggs and have 2-3 rookie WR’s learning and growing with Josh, it’s probably this year.

From a Diggs contract perspective, from what we see from spotrac, this is not a good year to move him.

 

And there doesn't have to ever be year of total rebuild with Josh.  Draft a WR this year and have him grow and be groomed to take over. 

 

Constantly contending should be the plan with a franchise QB like Josh.

[SoonerBillsFan]

22 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

C'mon, a penciled in starting WR duo of Samuel and Shakir would have to be in consideration for the worst WR duo in the league. 

 

That's unfair to Josh and Bills fans across the nation,.

We are drafting 28th.  And I remember Brady making his wr's better.  

 

 

5 minutes ago, Einstein said:

There are no rebuild years when you have a franchise QB.

The Chiefs lost Tyreek Hill, Byron Pringle and Demarcus Robinson in one offseason.

That was a loss of 178 receptions.

They then won the Super Bowl. 

Exactly

[Einstein's Dog]

5 minutes ago, Einstein said:

There are no rebuild years when you have a franchise QB.

The Chiefs lost Tyreek Hill, Byron Pringle and Demarcus Robinson in one offseason.

That was a loss of 178 receptions.

They then won the Super Bowl. 

On the flip side, the last year at Green Bay, A Rodgers did not make the playoffs- they were rebuilding.

[FireChans]

1 minute ago, Einstein's Dog said:

From a Diggs contract perspective, from what we see from spotrac, this is not a good year to move him.

 

And there doesn't have to ever be year of total rebuild with Josh.  Draft a WR this year and have him grow and be groomed to take over. 

 

Constantly contending should be the plan with a franchise QB like Josh.

I guess the disconnect is you still think Diggs is this necessary puzzle piece to contention.

 

I’ve watched him no show against KC enough, I don’t mind if some rookie puts up 4 catches for 32 yards. What’s the difference, except they will get much needed experience and better faster?

 

We will contend as long as Allen is QB and McD is coach. Legit no one else matter that much.