Warriorspikes51 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Just now, Solomon Grundy said: Who's going to be Josh's go to guy if Diggs is moved?? 🤷 Michael Pittman Jr?! They are buddies and worked out together in Orange County Cali. Probably out of our price range but never know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 I think for my own sanity, I just need to have the resolve to stay off this thread. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 8 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Someone knows something don’t the Texans and Bills have multiple guys in their front offices that have also been in the other? Would explain Jerry Hughes and Singletary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 11 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Someone knows something That’s very curious. 3 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I think for my own sanity, I just need to have the resolve to stay off this thread. I hope for your sanity, he doesn’t get moved. We’d be reading about you on the news. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I think for my own sanity, I just need to have the resolve to stay off this thread. 😂🤣 as I said…it’s the emotional aspect! you’ve stooped down to my level from the Hopkins thread😂😁 it’s not “WE CAN’T MOVE HIM!” Just depends whether one or both parties want to Edited February 22 by Warriorspikes51 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 8 minutes ago, FireChans said: That’s very curious. I hope for your sanity, he doesn’t get moved. We’d be reading about you on the news. Save for a situation where Diggs goes nuclear, I really don't see a situation where it happens in the current landscape. Regardless of how you and others twist things, there's more holes in the scenario of him being moved that make it way more unlikely to happen than you guys want to give it credit for. 10 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: 😂🤣 as I said…it’s the emotional aspect! you’ve stooped down to my level from the Hopkins thread😂😁 it’s not “WE CAN’T MOVE HIM!” Just depends whether one or both parties want to The emotional aspect isn't about the player. It's about the nonstop arguing that not only should it happen, there's more reasons to do it than reasons not. And I just don't see that being remotely accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 2 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Save for a situation where Diggs goes nuclear, I really don't see a situation where it happens in the current landscape. Regardless of how you and others twist things, there's more holes in the scenario of him being moved that make it way more unlikely to happen than you guys want to give it credit for. The emotional aspect isn't about the player. It's about the nonstop arguing that not only should it happen, there's more reasons to do it than reasons not. And I just don't see that being remotely accurate. Don’t tell me buddy, tell the oddsmakers in Vegas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) 2 hours ago, FireChans said: Don’t tell me buddy, tell the oddsmakers in Vegas. They take bets for EVERYTHING. Of course they'd take bets on this. Place bets on what team Diggs is going to. Oh, he didn't go to any of them? Cool - we get all the money. C'mon, we're really using Vegas odds makers as a smoking gun now? Do you have have any idea how many players who aren't traded have this pop up every year? They made a killing on Davante Adams last year. Edited February 22 by BillsFanForever19 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Just now, BillsFanForever19 said: They take bets for EVERYTHING. Of course they'd take bets on this. Place bets on what team Diggs is going to. Oh, he didn't go to any of them? Cool - we get all the money. C'mon, we're really using Vegas odds makers as a smoking gun? Do you have have any idea how many players who aren't traded have this pop up every year? +7500 to +1000 shift doesn’t happen unless they actually know something 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 4 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: They take bets for EVERYTHING. Of course they'd take bets on this. Place bets on what team Diggs is going to. Oh, he didn't go to any of them? Cool - we get all the money. C'mon, we're really using Vegas odds makers as a smoking gun? Do you have have any idea how many players who aren't traded have this pop up every year? Tom Pelissero agrees. https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2877076-stefon-diggs-trade-rumors-odds-of-vikings-trading-star-wr-are-pretty-long.amp.html He said this is just Diggs being Diggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beebe Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) These types of markets typically have tiny limits with huge sportsbook hold. A $100 bet....yes, $100...can often times move the odds substantially. Books offer these markets typically for the promotional value rather than actually trying to generate any sort of meaningful profit. The current favorite, along with the Texans, is the Chiefs at 10-1. The Bills would never trade him to the Chiefs, and the Chiefs would never make that trade. They have seven players on their entire roster age 30+ and five of them are backups or deep reserves. Kelce is the elder statesman on the team. Edited February 22 by beebe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) 9 minutes ago, beebe said: These types of markets typically have tiny limits with huge sportsbook hold. A $100 bet....yes, $100...can often times move the odds substantially. Books offer these markets typically for the promotional value rather than actually trying to generate any sort of meaningful profit. Great post …. These sort of markets are more gimmick than anything ..with only low maximum wager limits permitted.. here is the full market… still overwhelming odds on he stays in Buffalo Also noting the Chiefs are the same odds as the Texans …. Not sure our mate Warrior will be as excited about Diggs ending up there.. Edited February 22 by Aussie Joe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) 2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: +7500 to +1000 shift doesn’t happen unless they actually know something So the Texans move to +1000 The odds of him remaining on the Bills? -300 Hit me up when that changes. The Kansas City Chiefs have the best odds (HA!) of any team beyond the Bills. And even they're 10-1 odds in favor of him staying here over them. Furthermore, I'd figure you of all people would realize how useless betting odds are on potential trades. I seem to recall you getting all excited that we were the favorites to trade for Davante Adams. I'll say the same now that I told you then - "Vegas Odds mean nothing". Edited February 22 by BillsFanForever19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 8 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Great post …. These sort of markets are more gimmick than anything ..with only low maximum wager limits permitted.. here is the full market… still overwhelming odds on he stays in Buffalo Also noting the Chiefs are the same odds as the Texans …. Not sure our mate Warrior will be as excited about Diggs ending up there.. The Chiefs would be awesome. Can you imagine? 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 3 minutes ago, vincec said: The Chiefs would be awesome. Can you imagine? 😂 You got people here crapping themselves over the prospect of Gabe going there … imagine if Diggs ends up there 😎… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 3 to 1 odds equates to 75% chance he’s a Bill this year. Seems right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beebe Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 38 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: 3 to 1 odds equates to 75% chance he’s a Bill this year. Seems right. It's even higher than that when you take out the vig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: +7500 to +1000 shift doesn’t happen unless they actually know something The combine is this next week, where deals get done...or finalized. 59 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: You got people here crapping themselves over the prospect of Gabe going there … imagine if Diggs ends up there 😎… Why would KC want a WR who they make dissappear every time they play against him? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said: You got people here crapping themselves over the prospect of Gabe going there … imagine if Diggs ends up there 😎… Casuals would freak out. A lot of us would love it, depending on what they send back. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) 9 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: adding two potential 21 year old difference makers in the draft is anything except short sighted my friend. These Rookies aren't sure things. We could easily be like the Titans. Trading a quality vet WR (AJ Brown) and getting a bust in return (Treylon Burks). Or we could move Diggs and end up with this year's Quentin Johnston. Or we could keep Diggs, take a guy like Thomas Jr., Legette, Franklin, or Coleman - and then come back in the later Rounds and land a guy who ends up being better than someone who was drafted higher. I know you're obsessed with the guys in the first 2 Rounds. But quality Rookies are often found later. The best WR in the Draft last year went in Round 5, while others drafted in the First 2 Rounds were underwhelming. And this year with the quality of class and depth, guys taken in later rounds would probably be taken a Round earlier in a normal year. Just because they look amazing in highlights doesn't make them guarantees. And Diggs with Allen FINALLY having someone on the other side who can take coverage away, in my mind, has way more of a chance to pay dividends next year then adding another Rookie in Round 1 or 2 instead of later in Round 3 or 4. And in turn, leaving Allen with only 1 WR he's ever thrown a pass to. Edited February 22 by BillsFanForever19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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