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He actually mentioned it in his post game, but said it wasn't an excuse. But by mentioning it, you are actually using it as an excuse. Don't even say anything about it...say no excuses and we didn't get it done.

 

While you can point to injuries in this game as a reason as to why they couldn't get it done, we have factual evidence that anytime a McDermott led team faces a top contender, they get pushed around and they have their way with his defense.

 

We also had maybe the worst fake punt decision ever in the playoffs that would have been the reason we lost if it wasn't for a miraculous play by Poyer.

 

If you don't think that KC out coached us by a wide margain in the second half, then you aren't using your brain. Spags adjusted and dared Brady to beat them with the passing game, and it worked. McDermotts defense came out and gave up a TD with zero resistance. 

 

We finally had the advantage yesterday being at home and playing a KC offense that wasn't very dangerous, and we blow it again.

 

When does it end? Where does it stop? 

 

The definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. 

 

There should be zero expectations for this team starting next season if we don't overhaul the coaching staff

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McDermott's limited offensive strategy and philosophy will continue to hinder this team until he is gone as head coach.

 

It might take Pegula 5 more years to realize this.

 

 

Just now, TheFunPolice said:

what happened all the other times in the playoffs against KC and Cincy? 

 

If the answer is everyone on defense needs to be 100% healthy then forget about it. It's never going to happen. 

McDimwit's approach leaves a TINY margin for error.  It's why we have lost the big ones.  

 

Why not build an approach with a large margin for error?

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Nextmanup said:

McDermott's limited offensive strategy and philosophy will continue to hinder this team until he is gone as head coach.

 

It might take Pegula 5 more years to realize this.

 

 

McDimwit's approach leaves a TINY margin for error.  It's why we have lost the big ones.  

 

Why not build an approach with a large margin for error?

 

 

 

Because Terry likes he is a good Christian man. Last time I checked, that has nothing to do with winning Football games. God doesn't care about Football (as Bills fans we know this all too well). 

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Just now, Nextmanup said:

McDermott's limited offensive strategy and philosophy will continue to hinder this team until he is gone as head coach.

 

It might take Pegula 5 more years to realize this.

 

 

Hinder? People need to focus. Why do people think hitting the easy button and firing the head coach will magically help us beat a dynasty team like KC?

 

It’s about the players. They come up short in the big moments vs KC. Not Allen, he steps up. It’s the other guys. They have to find someone other than Allen that steps up in the playoffs consistently. 

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2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Hinder? People need to focus. Why do people think hitting the easy button and firing the head coach will magically help us beat a dynasty team like KC?

 

It’s about the players. They come up short in the big moments vs KC. Not Allen, he steps up. It’s the other guys. They have to find someone other than Allen that steps up in the playoffs consistently. 

Its not magically going to make us champions, but we have gotten as far as we can with McDermott. Enough is enough and its time for a change

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Injuries were very much a factor.  There is no denying that.  
 

Doesn't mean it’s an excuse for McD, but it is factual that injuries hit us hard.  We still had opportunities to win the game so it’s not an excuse, but let’s not pretend the injuries didn’t impact us.  KC attacked and exploited our depleted LBs all game.  
 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Hinder? People need to focus. Why do people think hitting the easy button and firing the head coach will magically help us beat a dynasty team like KC?

 

It’s about the players. They come up short in the big moments vs KC. Not Allen, he steps up. It’s the other guys. They have to find someone other than Allen that steps up in the playoffs consistently. 

No offense, but who picks the players and coaches them?  It's organizational.  The players weren't the luck of the draw.  It's the team the Bills built.  

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14 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Hinder? People need to focus. Why do people think hitting the easy button and firing the head coach will magically help us beat a dynasty team like KC?

 

It’s about the players. They come up short in the big moments vs KC. Not Allen, he steps up. It’s the other guys. They have to find someone other than Allen that steps up in the playoffs consistently. 

Pretty much spot on. It's Allen too though. It seems like Brady was trying to protect him from one of his dumb INTs. Our only chance is to gamble that big plays outweigh his bonehead plays. Can't be so conservative.

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3 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

It’s not magically going to make us champions, but we have gotten as far as we can with McDermott. Enough is enough and its time for a change

Think about it. You want a coach that’s going to beat Mahomes in the playoffs. 
 

We’re only losing to ELITE QBs in the playoffs. I know that it’s not good enough but trying to find a coach that beats elite QBs in the playoffs is difficult. We’re right there with the Chiefs IMO we just have lacked what it takes to put them away. We can put 13 seconds on McDermott sure, but there’s a lot more to it. I don’t think new coaching gets us closer to beating KC than we are right now.

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5 minutes ago, JimmyNoodles said:

No offense, but who picks the players and coaches them?  It's organizational.  The players weren't the luck of the draw.  It's the team the Bills built.  

The management, coaches, and players we have are close as you can get to championship quality without winning one.

 

We’re missing 1-2 impact players to go with Allen that step up in the playoffs. I was so disappointed when Bernard went down because I was hoping he would be one of those players. Von was brought in to be one but blows out his knee. 
 

KC has Kelce and Chris Jones that step up for Mahomes every playoffs. Who does Allen have? That’s what we’re missing.

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10 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Injuries were very much a factor.  There is no denying that.  
 

Doesn't mean it’s an excuse for McD, but it is factual that injuries hit us hard.  We still had opportunities to win the game so it’s not an excuse, but let’s not pretend the injuries didn’t impact us.  KC attacked and exploited our depleted LBs all game.  
 

 

 

Thinking about it last night I think the injury situation doubly impacted McDermott both in a way he couldn't really help and in a way he definitely needed to be better in. Your teams injured so the scheme you're trying to run doesn't work like you want it sucks but it is what it is. Problem was it got in the way of something McDermott has been doing really well most of the season and especially on this late season run.

 

He's been doing a great job adjusting in game when the offense is getting the better of his scheme and finding a way to shut things down. This time though McDermott got stuck trying to find a way to get his original scheme to work with the broken pieces he had to work for way too long. He needed to move on and adjust much quicker, he seemingly did towards the end, and it was more effective, Mahomes still got things done I mean it's Mahomes, but we actually got a stop.

 

At least that's what it felt like.

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30 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

what happened all the other times in the playoffs against KC and Cincy? 

 

If the answer is everyone on defense needs to be 100% healthy then forget about it. It's never going to happen. 

We don’t have to be 💯 healthy, we just need to be healthier than what we’ve been.  
 

Take away Milano and Tre- 30M+ in contracts. Our best defender and our original CB1-  We could’ve won without them.  Even if we just had Bernard out there, I think the game ends with a W.  Kelce was killing Klein.


In all, we lost 2 of our top 3 corners.  3 of our top 4 linebackers, a rotational DT and S.

 

take that away from KC and this game end differently.  How many players did they have starting that were on the couch 12 days ago?

 

The injuries aren’t the only reason we lost, but they impacted the outcome of the game.  

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9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

The management, coaches, and players we have are close as you can get to championship quality without winning one.

 

We’re missing 1-2 impact players to go with Allen that step up in the playoffs. I was so disappointed when Bernard went down because I was hoping he would be one of those players. Von was brought in to be one but blows out his knee. 
 

KC has Kelce and Chris Jones that step up for Mahomes every playoffs. Who does Allen have? That’s what we’re missing.

Completely agree on the players.  We need more on both sides of the ball.  Also agree that we are "close" with championship quality coaches...but they are not.  Too many screw ups of all varieties.  Riding the same horse isn't going to make it faster.  Don't get me wrong, I like Beane and McD as people but too many mistakes by both at this point.  Got to rip the bandaid off.    

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44 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

McDimwit's approach leaves a TINY margin for error.  It's why we have lost the big ones.  

 

Why not build an approach with a large margin for error?

 

 

 


 

And how exactly do you go about doing that…?

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2 minutes ago, JimmyNoodles said:

Completely agree on the players.  We need more on both sides of the ball.  Also agree that we are "close" with championship quality coaches...but they are not.  Too many screw ups of all varieties.  Riding the same horse isn't going to make it faster.  Don't get me wrong, I like Beane and McD as people but too many mistakes by both at this point.  Got to rip the bandaid off.    


 

Yeah but that isn’t the actual issue. The actual issue comes down to scheme and adjustments. 
 

Spags over there completely shut us down. The only way you can’t shut down this team is when Josh is able to get the deep ball connecting. It’s a stretch that teams go to where they play a shell with everything in front and then collapse on it. 
 

If Sherfield or Diggs come down with any of those 4 deep shots that turned into drops/incompletions, I honestly think we win the game. KC are forced into a TD position again. 

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11 minutes ago, NewEra said:

We don’t have to be 💯 healthy, we just need to be healthier than what we’ve been.  
 

Take away Milano and Tre- 30M+ in contracts. Our best defender and our original CB1-  We could’ve won without them.  Even if we just had Bernard out there, I think the game ends with a W.  Kelce was killing Klein.


In all, we lost 2 of our top 3 corners.  3 of our top 4 linebackers, a rotational DT and S.

 

take that away from KC and this game end differently.  How many players did they have starting that were on the couch 12 days ago?

 

The injuries aren’t the only reason we lost, but they impacted the outcome of the game.  

 

for sure, but what about all the other playoff losses to KC and the Bengals? Basically the same result: Allen played great but it doesn't matter.

 

It looked like a pretty similar game overall

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4 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

 

for sure, but what about all the other playoff losses to KC and the Bengals? Basically the same result: Allen played great but it doesn't matter.

 

It looked like a pretty similar game overall

Allen was awful vs the bengals and pretty good vs KC in the AFCCG.  Masterful vs Kc in the other 2 games

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58 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

what happened all the other times in the playoffs against KC and Cincy? 

 

If the answer is everyone on defense needs to be 100% healthy then forget about it. It's never going to happen. 

 

Yep. KC lost Gay and their starting safety in the game... 

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51 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Hinder? People need to focus. Why do people think hitting the easy button and firing the head coach will magically help us beat a dynasty team like KC?

 

It’s about the players. They come up short in the big moments vs KC. Not Allen, he steps up. It’s the other guys. They have to find someone other than Allen that steps up in the playoffs consistently. 

They need a coach that doesn't have his guys fold on defense every time.

 

It would be great if Diggs actually caught the ball...same with Sherfield, Cook, and Davis when he's actually healthy. 

 

Problem is that if Mahomes or Burrow have the ball at the end, they will absolutely get whatever they want against our defense. 

 

That falls on the coach

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1 hour ago, Nextmanup said:

McDermott's limited offensive strategy and philosophy will continue to hinder this team until he is gone as head coach.

 

It might take Pegula 5 more years to realize this.

 

 

McDimwit's approach leaves a TINY margin for error.  It's why we have lost the big ones.  

 

Why not build an approach with a large margin for error?

 

 

 

When you play good teams there’s always a tiny margin for error on either side.  We just are usually the team that commits one of those tiny errors and lose 

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7 minutes ago, BBFL said:


 


 

Yeah but that isn’t the actual issue. The actual issue comes down to scheme and adjustments. 
 

Spags over there completely shut us down. The only way you can’t shut down this team is when Josh is able to get the deep ball connecting. It’s a stretch that teams go to where they play a shell with everything in front and then collapse on it. 
 

If Sherfield or Diggs come down with any of those 4 deep shots that turned into drops/incompletions, I honestly think we win the game. KC are forced into a TD position again. 

Scheme and adjustments are coaching.  Our offense pounded them the first half.  When they stacked the box and run blitzed in the 2nd half, no real adjustments to take advantage.  We stalled out on too many drives.  But still, it wasn't the offense.  The defense was a joke, injuries or not.  Same every year.  I was out on McD last year, and I'm doubly out now.  Next year, I'll be triply out as they rerun this nonsense.    

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4 minutes ago, BeastMaster said:

They need a coach that doesn't have his guys fold on defense every time.

 

It would be great if Diggs actually caught the ball...same with Sherfield, Cook, and Davis when he's actually healthy. 

 

Problem is that if Mahomes or Burrow have the ball at the end, they will absolutely get whatever they want against our defense. 

 

That falls on the coach

KC wasn’t able to get what they wanted in 3 of the last 4 games played vs our D.  
 

They certainly did yesterday. Attacking AJ Klein 

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1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said:

what happened all the other times in the playoffs against KC and Cincy? 

 

If the answer is everyone on defense needs to be 100% healthy then forget about it. It's never going to happen. 

I'd settle for 90%. Losing Milano, Tre, Bernard, et al., that's more than we should reasonably expect. McD did a great job wringing out quality starts from average depth pieces, but it caught up to us in the end. I do believe if Frazier was calling the D, we lose by 3 scores yesterday fwiw. 

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6 minutes ago, BeastMaster said:

Playoffs, my guy

 

Totally different story

And the injuries were a totally different story as well, my guy.  

 

when we played them in the regular season each year, we had Bernard and Benford. 

 

13 seconds, our corners were Levi and Dane.  We had Tre during the regular season and pounded them.  
 

last year, we had a healthy von and he wrecked them. 

 

That’s my point-  McD has proven he’s able to stop them…..when he has a somewhat healthy roster.  Missing Milano, Bernard, Tre, Benford, Rapp and JP hurt.  Big time.   Hell, even losing Spector hurt last night 
 


 

 

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Just now, NewEra said:

And the injuries were a totally different story as well, my guy.  

 

when we played them in the regular season each year, we had Bernard and Benford. 

 

13 seconds, our corners were Levi and Dane.  We had Tre during the regular season and pounded them.  
 

last year, we had a healthy von and he wrecked them. 

 

That’s my point-  McD has proven he’s able to stop them…..when he has a somewhat healthy roster.  Missing Milano, Bernard, Tre, Benford, Rapp and JP hurt.  Big time
 


 

 

I disagree

 

He hasn't proven a damn thing against the top QB's in the playoffs...they have abused his defense...healthy or not.

 

You will make excuses every year and say x person was out, they had injuries, etc

 

This time they had the home game, and they had a KC offense that hadn't shown anything all season. 

 

This was their best shot, and they laid an egg again. Your evidence is regular season wins, but my evidence is postseason losses.

 

We are talking postseason here, so my evidence is more compelling

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11 minutes ago, JimmyNoodles said:

Scheme and adjustments are coaching.  Our offense pounded them the first half.  When they stacked the box and run blitzed in the 2nd half, no real adjustments to take advantage.  We stalled out on too many drives.  But still, it wasn't the offense.  The defense was a joke, injuries or not.  Same every year.  I was out on McD last year, and I'm doubly out now.  Next year, I'll be triply out as they rerun this nonsense.    


I agree. Too many drives doing what the opposing team wanted us to. Absolutely need to get a deep threat who can win balls. 
 

Still can’t believe some of those drops by Diggs man… That caliber of player should be coming away with most of them. They weren’t otherworldly catches to be made…

 

Once you box Allen into an underneath passer you’re making his supporting cast win the game, and they never have. 
 

Why give the guy a chance to go 25-30+ yards downfield where to cover, you have to have your back to the play. Once you do, game over. He’s picking up the first. 
 

Need to get Allen someone legit if we can, options are tough for a FA. Mike Evans might be the only option for what is needed…

Looks like drafting someone so we can run a complete offense is what’s needed. 
 

 

Also wonder if he goes back to the DLine for our first couple of picks given the complete no show they’ve been with Pitt and KC…

 

Just now, BeastMaster said:

I disagree

 

He hasn't proven a damn thing against the top QB's in the playoffs...they have abused his defense...healthy or not.

 

You will make excuses every year and say x person was out, they had injuries, etc

 

This time they had the home game, and they had a KC offense that hadn't shown anything all season. 

 

This was their best shot, and they laid an egg again. Your evidence is regular season wins, but my evidence is postseason losses.

 

We are talking postseason here, so my evidence is more compelling


 

I don’t think anyone is making excuses. They know what they get with McD. 
 

Personally, I give him one more season. He did an exceptional job of turning this season into the #2 seed and still could have/should have won it. 
 

He gets a final year. If you can’t get to the AFCC and be in it during the final seconds at worst, then it’s time to move on. 
 

He has earned that parting gift. 

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1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Injuries were very much a factor.  There is no denying that.  
 

Doesn't mean it’s an excuse for McD, but it is factual that injuries hit us hard.  We still had opportunities to win the game so it’s not an excuse, but let’s not pretend the injuries didn’t impact us.  KC attacked and exploited our depleted LBs all game.  
 

 

 

 

All teams have injuries, but when down to 4th stringers against what is still a very good KC team it will make a difference.  Many here seem to be forgetting that many of the players who were out this week with injury or playing but not close to 100% were already playing for the original injured starter.

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1 hour ago, ScottLaw said:

Which is what many of us have been preaching…. Stack the offense. 

Not true. I was told on this board it was gods will to have the Bills play outdoors when the new stadium is built. 

Right?  I mean God forbid a dome and excellent conditions for playoffs because Superbowls are played in terrible, freezing weather...

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4 minutes ago, BBFL said:


I agree. Too many drives doing what the opposing team wanted us to. Absolutely need to get a deep threat who can win balls. 
 

Still can’t believe some of those drops by Diggs man… That caliber of player should be coming away with most of them. They weren’t otherworldly catches to be made…

 

Once you box Allen into an underneath passer you’re making his supporting cast win the game, and they never have. 
 

Why give the guy a chance to go 25-30+ yards downfield where to cover, you have to have your back to the play. Once you do, game over. He’s picking up the first. 
 

Need to get Allen someone legit if we can, options are tough for a FA. Mike Evans might be the only option for what is needed…

Looks like drafting someone so we can run a complete offense is what’s needed. 
 

 

Also wonder if he goes back to the DLine for our first couple of picks given the complete no show they’ve been with Pitt and KC…

 


 

I don’t think anyone is making excuses. They know what they get with McD. 
 

Personally, I give him one more season. He did an exceptional job of turning this season into the #2 seed and still could have/should have won it. 
 

He gets a final year. If you can’t get to the AFCC and be in it during the final seconds at worst, then it’s time to move on. 
 

He has earned that parting gift. 

Insanity 

 

We have all the evidence we need on McDermott and his failures in the playoffs against legit QB's and coaches 

 

McDermott beats up on lesser teams and QB's until it comes playoff time...then he gets undressed

 

I'm out on a McDermott led Bills team next season. Not doing it

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1 hour ago, BeastMaster said:

He actually mentioned it in his post game, but said it wasn't an excuse. But by mentioning it, you are actually using it as an excuse. Don't even say anything about it...say no excuses and we didn't get it done.

 

While you can point to injuries in this game as a reason as to why they couldn't get it done, we have factual evidence that anytime a McDermott led team faces a top contender, they get pushed around and they have their way with his defense.

 

We also had maybe the worst fake punt decision ever in the playoffs that would have been the reason we lost if it wasn't for a miraculous play by Poyer.

 

If you don't think that KC out coached us by a wide margain in the second half, then you aren't using your brain. Spags adjusted and dared Brady to beat them with the passing game, and it worked. McDermotts defense came out and gave up a TD with zero resistance. 

 

We finally had the advantage yesterday being at home and playing a KC offense that wasn't very dangerous, and we blow it again.

 

When does it end? Where does it stop? 

 

The definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. 

 

There should be zero expectations for this team starting next season if we don't overhaul the coaching staff

Prepare for zero expectations

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1 hour ago, BeastMaster said:

He actually mentioned it in his post game, but said it wasn't an excuse. But by mentioning it, you are actually using it as an excuse. Don't even say anything about it...say no excuses and we didn't get it done.

 

While you can point to injuries in this game as a reason as to why they couldn't get it done, we have factual evidence that anytime a McDermott led team faces a top contender, they get pushed around and they have their way with his defense.

 

We also had maybe the worst fake punt decision ever in the playoffs that would have been the reason we lost if it wasn't for a miraculous play by Poyer.

 

If you don't think that KC out coached us by a wide margain in the second half, then you aren't using your brain. Spags adjusted and dared Brady to beat them with the passing game, and it worked. McDermotts defense came out and gave up a TD with zero resistance. 

 

We finally had the advantage yesterday being at home and playing a KC offense that wasn't very dangerous, and we blow it again.

 

When does it end? Where does it stop? 

 

The definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. 

 

There should be zero expectations for this team starting next season if we don't overhaul the coaching staff

 

Well, he is out of coordinators to blame. 

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2 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

All teams have injuries, but when down to 4th stringers against what is still a very good KC team it will make a difference.  Many here seem to be forgetting that many of the players who were out this week with injury or playing but not close to 100% were already playing for the original injured starter.

What makes you so confident that even if by some amazing luck we play Mahomes or Burrow with a healthy team, that we will win?

 

McDermott routinely gets out coached and his defense gets trounced every playoffs against these guys

 

You're talking hypotheticals with zero evidence that any McDermott defense can beat those teams in the playoffs. We now have four years of his defense getting absolutely worked

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11 minutes ago, BBFL said:


I agree. Too many drives doing what the opposing team wanted us to. Absolutely need to get a deep threat who can win balls. 
 

Still can’t believe some of those drops by Diggs man… That caliber of player should be coming away with most of them. They weren’t otherworldly catches to be made…

 

Once you box Allen into an underneath passer you’re making his supporting cast win the game, and they never have. 
 

Why give the guy a chance to go 25-30+ yards downfield where to cover, you have to have your back to the play. Once you do, game over. He’s picking up the first. 
 

Need to get Allen someone legit if we can, options are tough for a FA. Mike Evans might be the only option for what is needed…

Looks like drafting someone so we can run a complete offense is what’s needed. 
 

 

Also wonder if he goes back to the DLine for our first couple of picks given the complete no show they’ve been with Pitt and KC…

 


 

I don’t think anyone is making excuses. They know what they get with McD. 
 

Personally, I give him one more season. He did an exceptional job of turning this season into the #2 seed and still could have/should have won it. 
 

He gets a final year. If you can’t get to the AFCC and be in it during the final seconds at worst, then it’s time to move on. 
 

He has earned that parting gift. 

I agree on all but keeping McD.  We're going to lose a lot of pieces this year, or should lose a lot of pieces.  Just as well start fresh now.  

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1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said:

what happened all the other times in the playoffs against KC and Cincy? 

 

If the answer is everyone on defense needs to be 100% healthy then forget about it. It's never going to happen

Correct 

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