Billzgobowlin Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 74 Andrew Luck 171 2012-2018clt 75 Chris Chandler 170 1988-20047TM 75 Charley Johnson 170. 1961-19753TM 77 Jon Kitna. 169. 1997-20114TM 78 Brad Johnson. 166. 1994-20084TM 79 Troy Aikman+. 165. 1989-2000dal 79 Josh Allen 165. 2018-2023buf 81 Daryle Lamonica. 164. 1963-19742TM 81 Jim Plunkett. 164. 1971-19863TM 83 Trent Green 162. 1997-20084TM 84 Jeff Garcia. 161. 1999-20095TM 84 Earl Morrall. 161. 1956-19766TM 84 Jake Plummer. 161. 1997-20062TM 87 Joe Theismann. 160. 1974-1985was 88 Tommy Kramer 159. 1977-19902TM 89 Steve Bartkowski156 6 2 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Do we have the same list for total touchdowns? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted December 25, 2023 Author Share Posted December 25, 2023 Just now, ToGoGo said: Do we have the same list for total touchdowns? I was actually looking for that but this one is from profootball reference and I don't see it. I'm guessing at least top 50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said: 74 Andrew Luck 171 2012-2018clt 75 Chris Chandler 170 1988-20047TM 75 Charley Johnson 170. 1961-19753TM 77 Jon Kitna. 169. 1997-20114TM 78 Brad Johnson. 166. 1994-20084TM 79 Troy Aikman+. 165. 1989-2000dal 79 Josh Allen 165. 2018-2023buf 81 Daryle Lamonica. 164. 1963-19742TM 81 Jim Plunkett. 164. 1971-19863TM 83 Trent Green 162. 1997-20084TM 84 Jeff Garcia. 161. 1999-20095TM 84 Earl Morrall. 161. 1956-19766TM 84 Jake Plummer. 161. 1997-20062TM 87 Joe Theismann. 160. 1974-1985was 88 Tommy Kramer 159. 1977-19902TM 89 Steve Bartkowski156 I want to see him at least at 187-190 by the time we win the superbowl this year. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted December 25, 2023 Author Share Posted December 25, 2023 Add 51 rushing and 1 receiving TD 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Billzgobowlin said: I was actually looking for that but this one is from profootball reference and I don't see it. I'm guessing at least top 50 Appreciate you checking. We’re starting to see that Allen is already at the Andrew Luck level, a guy people are already pushing for the HOF. Allen keeps this up for 10 years and he will be remembered the way Hasek is in the NHL. Known as a great goalie during his time, but only appreciated as one of the GOATs after his career ended and people became gobsmacked after looking at his stats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said: Add 51 rushing and 1 receiving TD 2receiving TD 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Allen leads the class of 2018 in rushing TDs with 51. 3 ahead of Chubb, 19 ahead of Barkley, and 22 ahead of Lamar. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted December 25, 2023 Author Share Posted December 25, 2023 20 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: I want to see him at least at 187-190 by the time we win the superbowl this year. That would be 61 all time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 33 minutes ago, ToGoGo said: Appreciate you checking. We’re starting to see that Allen is already at the Andrew Luck level, a guy people are already pushing for the HOF. Allen keeps this up for 10 years and he will be remembered the way Hasek is in the NHL. Known as a great goalie during his time, but only appreciated as one of the GOATs after his career ended and people became gobsmacked after looking at his stats. Not to derail the thread, but Luck is not a HOFer. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Shocked to hear Aikman has that few. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 It almost seems odd that Josh Allen's career overlapped with Andrew Luck's. It feels like a million years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Barring injuries, Josh will easily finish top 8 and possibly top 5, depending on how long he plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 17 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Not to derail the thread, but Luck is not a HOFer. I agree. But there are debates happening about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Applicable Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 15 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said: Shocked to hear Aikman has that few. Same...passing numbers didn't really explode until around 2000ish. It's why you really can't compare eras for QBs. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakout Squad Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, ToGoGo said: I agree. But there are debates happening about him. He quit too early. Couldn’t win big playoff games. He shouldn’t make it to the HOF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Where’s Mahomes? You always have to include his numbers when mentioning Josh, no? 😂 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 26 minutes ago, BBFL said: Where’s Mahomes? You always have to include his numbers when mentioning Josh, no? 😂 About 50 TD’s ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 this is not a knock on Allen, but man how the game has changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Nephilim17 said: Shocked to hear Aikman has that few. He was overrated because he was a Dallass Cowpoke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, peterpan said: this is not a knock on Allen, but man how the game has changed. Yeah the players got better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, peterpan said: this is not a knock on Allen, but man how the game has changed. Feels like it’s starting to tip back towards the defense a little bit…I wonder if that trend continues or this has just been an odd season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Allen is on pace to be the all time TD leader if I am not mistaken? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 37 minutes ago, FireChans said: About 50 TD’s ahead. Yeah, just checked. 217. Pretty impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Applicable Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 30 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Yeah the players got better They essentially outlawed hitting the QB and playing bump-and-run coverage on receivers, which is the main reason for the sizable statistical difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Patrick Fitzryan said: Same...passing numbers didn't really explode until around 2000ish. It's why you really can't compare eras for QBs. Hate to say it, but 84 Marino was the greatest season by a QB of all time. You gotta look at the comparisons and nobody was even coming close to that. Especially because of the fact you could mug a receiver past 5 yards. 5084 yards 48 TDS. Absolutely insane for that era and is an MVP level stat line even today. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Never thought Allen would throw as many TDs as John Kitna….but he is closing in. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 6 hours ago, Billzgobowlin said: Add 51 rushing and 1 receiving TD I thought he had 2 receiving TD (One in the playoffs in Houston and another in regular season next year) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Once he passes Andrew Luck, I'm sure everyone will finally realize Josh is a franchise QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 6 hours ago, Nephilim17 said: Shocked to hear Aikman has that few. Aikman was a pedestrian QB that played near flawlessly in the SB playoff runs. He had only one season with 20+ TDs. That same year he had 8TD passes in the playoffs. That said he probably could have had a few more passing TDs if not for Emmitt Smith He had 141 career INT or 3% INT rate. Despite 75 INT already in Allen's career he is still lower INT rate at 2.4%. 3 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Hate to say it, but 84 Marino was the greatest season by a QB of all time. You gotta look at the comparisons and nobody was even coming close to that. Especially because of the fact you could mug a receiver past 5 yards. 5084 yards 48 TDS. Absolutely insane for that era and is an MVP level stat line even today. Why hate to say it? It's true. If Marino played in this era he would be unstoppable. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 7 hours ago, ToGoGo said: We’re starting to see that Allen is already at the Andrew Luck level, a guy people are already pushing for the HOF. Allen keeps this up for 10 years and he will be remembered the way Hasek is in the NHL. Known as a great goalie during his time, but only appreciated as one of the GOATs after his career ended and people became gobsmacked after looking at his stats. 6 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Not to derail the thread, but Luck is not a HOFer. Not only is Luck not a HOFer but anyone who's even a casual fan of the NFL can clearly see that Josh's career trajectory is a HOF one. He and Mahomes are obviously on schedule for Canton. 5 hours ago, FireChans said: About 50 TD’s ahead. 4 hours ago, BBFL said: Yeah, just checked. 217. Pretty impressive. Josh Allen 165 passing 51 rushing 1 passing for 217 total in 92 games (2.36/game). Patrick Mahomes 217 passing 12 rushing 0 passing for 229 total in 94 games (2.44/game). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaenon Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 7 hours ago, ToGoGo said: Appreciate you checking. We’re starting to see that Allen is already at the Andrew Luck level, a guy people are already pushing for the HOF. Allen keeps this up for 10 years and he will be remembered the way Hasek is in the NHL. Known as a great goalie during his time, but only appreciated as one of the GOATs after his career ended and people became gobsmacked after looking at his stats. Really? Hasek won 6 Vezina trophys being voted as the leagues best goalie each time. That's second only to Jacques Plante who has 7 and played in the 50s and 60s. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Kaenon said: Really? Hasek won 6 Vezina trophys being voted as the leagues best goalie each time. That's second only to Jacques Plante who has 7 and played in the 50s and 60s. Right?!? Hasek is at a Brady, Manning, Montana level of conversation. Nobody thinks Hasek is an afterthought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 57 minutes ago, ganesh said: I thought he had 2 receiving TD (One in the playoffs in Houston and another in regular season next year) Pretty sure the regular season TD was from the Hail Murray game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 18 minutes ago, Kaenon said: Really? Hasek won 6 Vezina trophys being voted as the leagues best goalie each time. That's second only to Jacques Plante who has 7 and played in the 50s and 60s. He won the Vezinas and Harts but he was not looked at in the same historical light as Roy or Plante or Sawchuk at the time. Main reason was no cups. Second was being in small market Buffalo. And third was the European bias which was much stronger back then. Another reason is he came to the league when he was nearly 30 playing most of his early career in the Soviet controlled Czech Republic so his win totals weren’t high. It was only after retirement did he start being seen as the #1 or #1A goalie of all time (next to Roy). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMAKCruiser Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, ToGoGo said: Appreciate you checking. We’re starting to see that Allen is already at the Andrew Luck level, a guy people are already pushing for the HOF. Allen keeps this up for 10 years and he will be remembered the way Hasek is in the NHL. Known as a great goalie during his time, but only appreciated as one of the GOATs after his career ended and people became gobsmacked after looking at his stats. I must have a different memory than you but many thought Hasek was the GOAT while he played. Edited December 26, 2023 by SMAKCruiser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 17 minutes ago, Mango said: Right?!? Hasek is at a Brady, Manning, Montana level of conversation. Nobody thinks Hasek is an afterthought. He is now. It was only after he retired did the hockey buffs really accept him as GOAT level. Just now, SMAKCruiser said: I must have a different memory than you but many thought Hasek was the GOAT while he played. Maybe in Buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMAKCruiser Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, ToGoGo said: He is now. It was only after he retired did the hockey buffs really accept him as GOAT level. Maybe in Buffalo. Alright then, its settled! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, ToGoGo said: He is now. It was only after he retired did the hockey buffs really accept him as GOAT level. Maybe in Buffalo. Nope. Everywhere it was widely known that Hasek was all-time incredible. On an interesting, and related, note, he stayed at a hotel I worked in back in 2000. I had heard that he was prickly and difficult, but he was anything but. Truly gracious and had a lovely family. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 7 hours ago, ToGoGo said: Appreciate you checking. We’re starting to see that Allen is already at the Andrew Luck level, a guy people are already pushing for the HOF. Allen keeps this up for 10 years and he will be remembered the way Hasek is in the NHL. Known as a great goalie during his time, but only appreciated as one of the GOATs after his career ended and people became gobsmacked after looking at his stats. Are people seriously pushing for Luck to be in the hall? I havent seen it, but if true, my God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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