The Bills do not win one score games

[Bills!Win!]

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[Zag20]

…every time 

[RiotAct]

hell, we’ve won 3 so far this season!

 

… granted two of them were at home against the relative dregs of the NFC, but still 🤣

[Utah John]

The two earlier one-score wins were gifted to the Bills, more or less.  We beat the Giants despite not being penalized for a blatant DPI in the end zone at the end fo the game, and we beat the Bucs but could have lost if the Bucs WR had turned to see where their Hail Mary was going.

 

Today's win was a big deal for many reasons, not least because it will maybe get the monkey off the Bills back about losing close games.

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

1 minute ago, Utah John said:

The two earlier one-score wins were gifted to the Bills, more or less.  We beat the Giants despite not being penalized for a blatant DPI in the end zone at the end fo the game, and we beat the Bucs but could have lost if the Bucs WR had turned to see where their Hail Mary was going.

 

Today's win was a big deal for many reasons, not least because it will maybe get the monkey off the Bills back about losing close games.

 

You don't consider Toney lining up Offside as a gift ?

 

Broncos also gifted us a win when they missed a 41 yard FG. Unfortunately we returned the gift and gave them another shot with the 12 men penalty

 

Would be nice to see our defense close out a 1 score game without such extreme levels of drama

[ProcessTruster]

6 hours ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

You don't consider Toney lining up Offside as a gift ?

 

Broncos also gifted us a win when they missed a 41 yard FG. Unfortunately we returned the gift and gave them another shot with the 12 men penalty

 

Would be nice to see our defense close out a 1 score game without such extreme levels of drama

oh,  poor baby.   12 pack not going down so well?     Welcome to today's  NFL, this is exactly how the league has set things up with the scheduling, the draft, everything; last minute, last game of the season drama, that's the whole point of selling advertising; you keep eyeballs on the game until the final minute of the final game.

 

if you don't have the stomach for it, go watch bowling.  There are far fewer ads there as well.  

[Neo]

6 hours ago, Utah John said:

The two earlier one-score wins were gifted to the Bills, more or less.  We beat the Giants despite not being penalized for a blatant DPI in the end zone at the end fo the game, and we beat the Bucs but could have lost if the Bucs WR had turned to see where their Hail Mary was going.

 

Today's win was a big deal for many reasons, not least because it will maybe get the monkey off the Bills back about losing close games.

 

For the past seven months, I have using generative AI and a staff of interns.  The assignment is to find a single sporting event in the history of mankind that doesn’t have judgement calls or plays that might have turned out differently.  I want to see if this “gifting” is a rare event or part of the construct that applies to every game, every time.  I am paying particular attention to teams that have great success in close games, looking for the “gifts” that led to the results.

 

Forgive my statistical generalization, and recognize I’m not finished, but watching all players and every bounce on every play suggests “gifts” occur roughly 32,438 per game.

 

I will ask my team to look into the two plays you reference and get back with the results.

[BuffaloBillyG]

The negative Nancy type poster won't see it as the Bills winning a one score game, but the Chiefs lost a one score game. That's the difference.

[Scott7975]

Not sure what this thread is on a day that we just won in a one score game.

 

So I guess I will comment with... I think McD is roughly .500 which is about where most teams usually are.  I'm not really sure.  Also the Bills seem to have rotating years on that where one year they win a lot of one score games and then the next they lose a lot.  I am not really sure if that is normal as I don't pay that much detailed attention to other teams.

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

3 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

The negative Nancy type poster won't see it as the Bills winning a one score game, but the Chiefs lost a one score game. That's the difference.

they are always out in droves after a win.

[BuffaloBillyG]

6 hours ago, Utah John said:

The two earlier one-score wins were gifted to the Bills, more or less.  We beat the Giants despite not being penalized for a blatant DPI in the end zone at the end fo the game, and we beat the Bucs but could have lost if the Bucs WR had turned to see where their Hail Mary was going.

 

Today's win was a big deal for many reasons, not least because it will maybe get the monkey off the Bills back about losing close games.

Can do that for any one score game.

 

"If" the refs rightly called the AJ Brown catch/fumble play in OT the Bills end the game and win, for example. 

3 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

they are always out in droves after a win.

Yup. And I like after wins the post titles with "It was a good win...but" as the title. Those are always guaranteed to be fun rides.

[zow2]

You would think by the law of averages,... they won yesterday and will win most of the one score games left this season, including any OTs.

[Mr. WEO]

this again?  they are 3-6 this season.  every loss one score.

[Ya Digg?]

7 hours ago, Utah John said:

The two earlier one-score wins were gifted to the Bills, more or less.  We beat the Giants despite not being penalized for a blatant DPI in the end zone at the end fo the game, and we beat the Bucs but could have lost if the Bucs WR had turned to see where their Hail Mary was going.

 

Today's win was a big deal for many reasons, not least because it will maybe get the monkey off the Bills back about losing close games.

 

7 hours ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

You don't consider Toney lining up Offside as a gift ?

 

Broncos also gifted us a win when they missed a 41 yard FG. Unfortunately we returned the gift and gave them another shot with the 12 men penalty

 

Would be nice to see our defense close out a 1 score game without such extreme levels of drama

I hate this “yeah, but” thinking. The Bucs game argument is such an asinine, ridiculous argument to say the Bills were “gifted” the win because the guy didn’t turn around. Give me a break. As far as yesterday is concerned, outside of the one play everyone is talking about, the defense DID close out that game without “extreme levels of drama”

 

if you wanted to call those gifted or lucky wins then fine, but then make sure you realize that every good team in the league also has 2-3 of those this season as well 

[peterpan]

McD certainly did his dad dear to lose it but we still won!!

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

Wild season.  There's a not-so-distant reality where we're 10-3 and fighting for the bye and another not-so-distant reality where we're 4-9 and everyone has already been fired.  All things considered we're probably at neutral variance.

[C.Biscuit97]

So happy we won. But we make it way harder than it needs to be. Awful play calling at the end of the game. 

40 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:

Wild season.  There's a not-so-distant reality where we're 10-3 and fighting for the bye and another not-so-distant reality where we're 4-9 and everyone has already been fired.  All things considered we're probably at neutral variance.

Yup. You are what your record says you are.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

8 hours ago, Utah John said:

The two earlier one-score wins were gifted to the Bills, more or less.  We beat the Giants despite not being penalized for a blatant DPI in the end zone at the end fo the game, and we beat the Bucs but could have lost if the Bucs WR had turned to see where their Hail Mary was going.

 

Today's win was a big deal for many reasons, not least because it will maybe get the monkey off the Bills back about losing close games.

Omg you people with this almost Hail Mary 😂. Not a single wr knew where the ball was… that was probably one of the least likely to be completed Hail Marys of all time.  I’d agree with the giants game but we also got screwed by the refs late in the game in the jets and pats games so it sort of evened out 

[bobobonators]

9 hours ago, Bills!Win! said:

Comment here 

[mrags]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

The negative Nancy type poster won't see it as the Bills winning a one score game, but the Chiefs lost a one score game. That's the difference.

I wouldn’t go that far. But maybe they see it as we won, but man it kind felt like at the end that we almost gave it to them. Kinda lucky at the end the way things turned out. But with 2 TOs and over a minute left, I have no doubt we would have went down the field and “had a chance” to take the lead again if that was the case. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, mrags said:

I wouldn’t go that far. But maybe they see it as we won, but man it kind felt like at the end that we almost gave it to them. Kinda lucky at the end the way things turned out. But with 2 TOs and over a minute left, I have no doubt we would have went down the field and “had a chance” to take the lead again if that was the case. 

Can’t find a good replay angle maybe the all 22 will help…but it seemed to me like a pretty questionable pick by Toney set that big lateral play up

 

they also had 4 other plays to pick up at least a first down on that series with the lateral td and they gained a whopping 0 yards lol 

 

I’ve gotta give the defense some credit they did the same to Philly on that final drive of regulation but Philly hit that prayer of a fg.  If that fg misses,  the bills will have stopped two of the best offenses in the league in 4 down territory needing a fg to tie which is no easy task.  Would’ve partially made up for a lot of their shenanigans earlier in the season 😂

Edited December 11, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[mrags]

1 hour ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Can’t find a good replay angle maybe the all 22 will help…but it seemed to me like a pretty questionable pick by Toney set that big lateral play up

 

they also had 4 other plays to pick up at least a first down on that series with the lateral td and they gained a whopping 0 yards lol 

 

I’ve gotta give the defense some credit they did the same to Philly on that final drive of regulation but Philly hit that prayer of a fg.  If that fg misses,  the bills will have stopped two of the best offenses in the league in 4 down territory needing a fg to tie which is no easy task.  Would’ve partially made up for a lot of their shenanigans earlier in the season 😂

There’s no question that some of these close games could have easily gone the other way. I think the bigger point is why are they close to be determined the way they are. In this games case, it was a shame that Allen threw the pick before the half. Could have been 17-0 or 21-0 at the half and getting the ball. Could have came out in the 2nd half with a McDermott style ground and pound offense and taken a good 8 minutes off the game clock. Would have really helped seal the game. Again, it sucked that Allen threw the pick, however imo it looked like McD really changed his defensive philosophy after that. Played a more bend but don’t break style of defense. All a prevent defense does is prevents the other team from scoring quickly. Unfortunately there was a ton of time left and imo was the wrong way to go about it. 
 

I also believe with Hyde being out it hurt them as well. Bit that’s an issue that should have been foreseen by the HC and GM prior to the season imo. To expect Hyde coming back from a serious neck injury at his age was not likely. Actually he’s done better and played more than I expected but I don’t think they should have expected anything. A bigger issue is how much Poyer has dropped off the face of the earth. He’s been virtually invisible all year. To sign him to a 2 year deal was not a good idea. I wanted Rapp but he hasn’t looked as good as I hoped he would. But hes likely going to be back next year. At least I hope, because if he’s not, that means McD is going to draft 2 safeties pretty early in the upcoming draft imo. 

[Bills!Win!]

Should I change the topic title to “Kadarius Toney does not win one score games”?

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

12 hours ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

You don't consider Toney lining up Offside as a gift ?

 

Broncos also gifted us a win when they missed a 41 yard FG. Unfortunately we returned the gift and gave them another shot with the 12 men penalty

 

Would be nice to see our defense close out a 1 score game without such extreme levels of drama

Lol the defense allowed 17 points against the best QB in the NFL and the pass rush turned it on during the final drive where the Chiefs only needed a FG to tie. They played excellent. 

[Mark80]

12 hours ago, Utah John said:

The two earlier one-score wins were gifted to the Bills, more or less.  We beat the Giants despite not being penalized for a blatant DPI in the end zone at the end fo the game, and we beat the Bucs but could have lost if the Bucs WR had turned to see where their Hail Mary was going.

 

Today's win was a big deal for many reasons, not least because it will maybe get the monkey off the Bills back about losing close games.

 

Can say the same crap about the ones we lost.  But, hey, pick your examples selectively to support your argument, we get it.

[ngbills]

We are 3-6 in one score games. That is not a positive. I am confused...

[Yockopondowsk]

Dang WR a full yard off the ball in the wrong direction, and six men in the backfield, what’s not to call. 

[SMAKCruiser]

Why is nobody talking about the fact that we finally won a game against a good opponent in blue bottoms and white tops????

[jkeerie]

8 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Can’t find a good replay angle maybe the all 22 will help…but it seemed to me like a pretty questionable pick by Toney set that big lateral play up

 

they also had 4 other plays to pick up at least a first down on that series with the lateral td and they gained a whopping 0 yards lol 

 

I’ve gotta give the defense some credit they did the same to Philly on that final drive of regulation but Philly hit that prayer of a fg.  If that fg misses,  the bills will have stopped two of the best offenses in the league in 4 down territory needing a fg to tie which is no easy task.  Would’ve partially made up for a lot of their shenanigans earlier in the season 😂

Yes.  It was a pick.  Tasker talked about it and originally the Bills thought that was what the flag was for.

[Freddie's Dead]

We almost lost this one score game due to bad clock management by McDummy.  At 2:12 in the 4th, we should have run the ball to burn clock and/or force KC to burn TOs.  Instead, we dial up two INC passes which gave KC free timeouts, then a 1 yard pass to Kincaid to get to the two minute warning.  KC had plenty of time and TO's to go the length of the field.  We escaped because Kadarius Toney is dumber than a box of rocks.

[stuvian]

Sometimes karma works for us not against us 

Edited December 12, 2023 by stuvian

[harmonkillebrew]

On 12/11/2023 at 8:22 AM, peterpan said:

McD certainly did his dad dear to lose it but we still won!!

That's the rub. We got a gift from Toney for sure, but McD also almost choked it away with bad clock management. 
It's not that we can't win one score games, it's that too often, far too often, the coaches (and players) choke. McD's OT record speaks for itself.

 

You need a killer instinct to win championships. There is just too much parity in the NFL. 

McDermott's teams have just never had it.