Tyler Dunne story on McDermott - 3 parts, 25 interviews, one damning conclusion

[Dick_Cheney]

Just now, TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th said:

My conspiracy theory : Pegula wants McDermott gone, but he knows firing a coach who's made 4 straight playoffs is a dangerous idea. This gives him the ability to do it without being second guessed by some in the media. Tyler Dunne is fed all of the juicy stories and the rest is history. Buffalo will instantly become the top head coaching position. 

 

THIS IS NOT A COINCIDENCE:
 

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/michigan-finalizing-massive-contract-offer-for-jim-harbaugh-amid-potential-nfl-interest-per-reports/

 

 

There's no way that this happens, but if it did, it would be absolutely hilarious.

[OZBILLS]

1 minute ago, TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th said:

My conspiracy theory : Pegula wants McDermott gone, but he knows firing a coach who's made 4 straight playoffs is a dangerous idea. This gives him the ability to do it without being second guessed by some in the media. Tyler Dunne is fed all of the juicy stories and the rest is history. Buffalo will instantly become the top head coaching position. 

 

THIS IS NOT A COINCIDENCE:
 

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/michigan-finalizing-massive-contract-offer-for-jim-harbaugh-amid-potential-nfl-interest-per-reports/

 

 

We're not that smart, or lucky

[Mikie2times]

1 minute ago, TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th said:

My conspiracy theory : Pegula wants McDermott gone, but he knows firing a coach who's made 4 straight playoffs is a dangerous idea. This gives him the ability to do it without being second guessed by some in the media. Tyler Dunne is fed all of the juicy stories and the rest is history. Buffalo will instantly become the top head coaching position. 

 

THIS IS NOT A COINCIDENCE:
 

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/michigan-finalizing-massive-contract-offer-for-jim-harbaugh-amid-potential-nfl-interest-per-reports/

 

 

That Michigan is throwing the sink at Jim because they know he's sick of the NCAA and he beats the Ohio team? I could have told you this a few weeks ago. Not news. 

Edited December 8, 2023 by Mikie2times

[WEATHER DOT COM]

3 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

It's an interesting question.  I listened to Dunne on the Schopp and Bulldog show this afternoon and it sounded very targeted (I won't say biased but that's probably the closest word).

 

He said all the people quoted had positive comments about Sean but even more positive about Beane and even said that Beane probably put out more fires than most people know about because of Sean.

 

Made references to Allen being the best thing since sliced bread and Sean was always going to hold him back. (paraphrasing).

 

 

I honestly do think that the digging and info that came out wasn't true and all happened but at the same time, I also believe that Dunne has an axe to grind with McD since he doesn't give "new media" media credentials.

 

 

 

My tinfoil hat theory is it wasn't meant to be targeted at McDermott but was meant to target legacy Buffalo media that reported last week Sean is 100% safe. Would explain some of the criticism from his peers. They know it's personal against them.

[CaliBills]

I hate when people put out an article 4 F'ing years after it happened....

 

It is a personal vendetta against McD.

 

I could care less about this.  

[K-9]

10 minutes ago, QCity said:

 

Nah, he's been sitting on this for years waiting for juuuuust the right moment.

Why is this moment more right than any other moment?

[Governor]

4 minutes ago, TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th said:

My conspiracy theory : Pegula wants McDermott gone, but he knows firing a coach who's made 4 straight playoffs is a dangerous idea. This gives him the ability to do it without being second guessed by some in the media. Tyler Dunne is fed all of the juicy stories and the rest is history. Buffalo will instantly become the top head coaching position. 

 

THIS IS NOT A COINCIDENCE:
 

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/michigan-finalizing-massive-contract-offer-for-jim-harbaugh-amid-potential-nfl-interest-per-reports/

 

 

Well, it’s not like the organization wasn’t contacted numerous times to refute the claims. That’s how this works. They knew these stories were dropping at some point. They either shrugged it off, or like you said….lol

Edited December 8, 2023 by Governor

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

14 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Now That's Funny.

 

Here, let me embed it

 

 

Why can't I embed tweets anymore 

[OZBILLS]

2 minutes ago, CaliBills said:

I hate when people put out an article 4 F'ing years after it happened....

 

It is a personal vendetta against McD.

 

I could care less about this.  

 

A real Salute to Service

[Success]

Just now, CaliBills said:

I hate when people put out an article 4 F'ing years after it happened....

 

It is a personal vendetta against McD.

 

I could care less about this.  

 

I simply cannot "not care" about this.

 

It is such a colossally stupid thing to say. I've said stupid things. I try to be understanding about it. But my god.

 

And a week after the Von story broke, the Bills are AGAIN the subject of negative conversation, and ridicule. 

 

It's too much.  How am I supposed to be proud of this right now?  I hate being so melodramatic, but I'm punch drunk at this point.

 

[FireChans]

1 minute ago, K-9 said:

Why is this moment more right than any other moment?

Probably because we are on the knife's edge of the most disappointing/worst season of McD's tenure and his job has never been more vulnerable

[CaliBills]

2 minutes ago, OZBILLS said:

 

A real Salute to Service

 

I served during 9/11.  Lets keep it real..  

 

I was talking about someone putting out info 4 years after it happened.  

Edited December 8, 2023 by CaliBills

[Brand J]

For McD’s sake, he better beat the Chiefs Sunday. A win would quiet the chatter a bit, a loss would ignite his seat with kerosene.

[WotAGuy]

McDermott to the team:

”They are coming after me like I called for the genocide of Jews at Harvard!  Amirite?  Guys…….?”

[Peter]

In case anyone still had any doubts about who was calling the defense at the end of the 13 second game against the Chiefs:

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That night, of course, the Bills defense also surrendered 19- and 25-yard completions to set up the game-tying field goal. One defensive starter is still pissed McDermott didn’t instruct DBs to press the Chiefs’ receivers on those two completions (“Get in front of their face,” he laments, “and challenge them!”) He’s currently loving life on a new team, but admits these two plays still serve as a 3 a.m. nightmare. Before each play, McDermott called a timeout to set the defense. That “Kodak” logic again.

He is clearly communicating into his headset as 71 seconds of real time pass before one completion and 110 seconds the next. At best, he signed off on the lax coverage. At worst, what three team sources told Go Long is true: McDermott flat-out seized playcalling from [then-defensive coordinator] Frazier those final two plays. Once [Tyreek] Hill took a quick-hitter 19 yards — to the KC 44-yard line — one coach on that staff believes McDermott’s thinking changed. “Now,” he said, “he’s worried about losing. In his mind, overtime is OK.” So, the Bills lined up in another prevent coverage. One safety was 31 yards off the ball; the other 26. Cornerback Levi Wallace was instructed to line up with outside leverage, vs. Travis Kelce, and the tight end accepted this free release to get KC in field-goal range.

Said one coach: “Imagine not being the playcaller all year long and then at a critical moment, ‘Hey, let me take the wheel.’”

 

 

 

"The strangest stories from Ty Dunne's blockbuster story on Sean McDermott"

Edited December 8, 2023 by Peter

[OZBILLS]

Just now, CaliBills said:

 

I served during 9/11.  Lets keep it real..

 

I was talking about someone putting out info 4 years after it happened.  

 

Can only get released when it was discovered.

[Einstein]

7 minutes ago, FireChans said:

He's just not that impressive. Bleacher Report was a crowd-sourced website and a joke for years.  He worked at the Buffalo News and the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

 

You’re purposefully ignoring his mentions on ESPN, NY Times, Sports Illustrated, Yahoo, PFT, Adam Schefter, etc. 

 

Also ignoring his 1 on 1 interviews with dozens upon dozens of current and former NFL players. In the last two months alone, he has been with Kurt Warner, Orlando Brown Jr, Wyatt Teller, and KJ Osborn.

 

Where do you think he got these sources? Why do you think they trust him?

 

PS, Here is the NFL editor for USA Today talking about how good Dunne is:

 

If you want to pretend that he isnt widely respected, that’s fine. It just makes you wrong.

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

6 minutes ago, TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th said:

My conspiracy theory : Pegula wants McDermott gone, but he knows firing a coach who's made 4 straight playoffs is a dangerous idea. This gives him the ability to do it without being second guessed by some in the media. Tyler Dunne is fed all of the juicy stories and the rest is history. Buffalo will instantly become the top head coaching position. 

 

THIS IS NOT A COINCIDENCE:
 

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/michigan-finalizing-massive-contract-offer-for-jim-harbaugh-amid-potential-nfl-interest-per-reports/

 

 

It better be Harbaugh. There's no reason why it can't be.

[billybob71]

3 minutes ago, CaliBills said:

I hate when people put out an article 4 F'ing years after it happened....

 

It is a personal vendetta against McD.

 

I could care less about this.  

exactly,  i care more about his strategy late in games then a bunch of he said she said stuff 

[OZBILLS]

1 minute ago, WotAGuy said:

McDermott to the team:

”They are coming after me like I called for the genocide of Jews at Harvard!  Amirite?  Guys…….?”

 

 

Just now, billybob71 said:

exactly,  i care more about his strategy late in games then a bunch of he said she said stuff 

Funny enough it's been a downward spiral for the past 4 years.

Edited December 8, 2023 by OZBILLS

[JaCrispy]

Loser HC and loser owner don’t make for a good combination…

[ToGoGo]

Let’s just beat the Chiefs. 

[QCity]

2 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Why is this moment more right than any other moment?

 

This is the hottest McD's seat has ever been i.e. his best chance to get that $8 sub.

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

3 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said:

For McD’s sake, he better beat the Chiefs Sunday. A win would quiet the chatter a bit, a loss would ignite his seat with kerosene.

Bills under .500 and all this stuff swirling around... I really think it's on the verge of being over.

[Peter]

1 minute ago, billybob71 said:

exactly,  i care more about his strategy late in games then a bunch of he said she said stuff 

 

If you are interested in McClappy's strategy late in games, you may want to check this out:

 

 

[Einstein]

Just now, ToGoGo said:

Let’s just beat the Chiefs. 

 

That’s the only reason i’m really mad about this. I hope it galvanizes the team instead of distracts them.

[K-9]

3 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Probably because we are on the knife's edge of the most disappointing/worst season of McD's tenure and his job has never been more vulnerable

Then dropping it after the Denver game would have been the better time to do it. 

[Beck Water]

3 minutes ago, Peter said:

 

And Dorsey was if you did not fall for the agenda that was being pushed by some to deflect from McClappy's defense giving up multiple game losing drives that put us in the position that we are in:

 

2022 Buffalo Bills Offense

 

2023 Buffalo Bills Offense:

 

 

 

Jaguars:  Bills scored 7 points in the first 3Q. 

Giants: Bills scoreless for first 3Q.  Scoreless.  Against the #26 defense in the NFL

NE: 3 points in 1st half, 10 points in first 3Q - against a 2-5 team

Tampa: 24 points in first 3Q against #10 D.  Looked good.

Bengals: 7 points in 1st half, whole team looked horrid

Denver: 8 points in 1st half.

 

I don't think we need a bunch of FrankenStats to tell us that the Offense looked disjointed and often ineffective until far too late in the game for a 6 week stretch.

[Governor]

3 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

Loser HC and loser owner don’t make for a good combination…

Don’t forget the GM that basically said “Von has never assaulted me personally so I think he’s probably a good guy.”

Edited December 8, 2023 by Governor

[Success]

Just now, Einstein said:

 

That’s the only reason i’m really mad about this. I hope it galvanizes the team instead of distracts them.

 

Could go either way.  The only way it doesn't go is "no impact."

 

 

[Negan]

3 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

It better be Harbaugh. There's no reason why it can't be.

Benjamin Albright just said, if Buffalo job becomes open he believes Ben Johnson will go there instead of Chargers someone just asked on Twitter.

[Peter]

Just now, Beck Water said:

 

Jaguars:  Bills scored 7 points in the first 3Q. 

Giants: Bills scoreless for first 3Q.  Scoreless.  Against the #26 defense in the NFL

NE: 3 points in 1st half, 10 points in first 3Q - against a 2-5 team

Tampa: 24 points in first 3Q against #10 D.  Looked good.

Bengals: 7 points in 1st half, whole team looked horrid

Denver: 8 points in 1st half.

 

I don't think we need a bunch of FrankenStats to tell us that the Offense looked disjointed and often ineffective until far too late in the game for a 6 week stretch.

 

Go ahead and ignore reality and non-biased metrics. Got it.

 

I see that you ignored the stats from last year as well.

 

The fact is that, without McClappy's defense giving up so many game losing drives, we would be sitting pretty for the playoffs.

[balln]

Just now, K-9 said:

Then dropping it after the Denver game would have been the better time to do it. 

It’s def interesting timing. Makes me think Ty dunne is more bills fan / McD hater and less journalism

 

def more editorial. But there’s def smoke here ppl

lets not pretend it’s JUsT a hit piece. 
 

the ONLY thing I care about is that it portrays as McD as a bumbling fool and I worry it impacts critical thinking on the fly in big games 

[Donuts and Doritos]

He's staying. This is a hit piece w/ old news from seasons past. Terry isn't divorcing Sean this year.

[billybob71]

4 minutes ago, Peter said:

 

If you are interested in McClappy's strategy late in games, you may want to check this out:

 

 

oh i dont need to read this to know what my eyes tell me, his late game strategy sucks lol i want him replaced and dont need an article to come to that conclusion, history speaks for itself lol

[I Am The Liquor]

0:00- Breaking The Drought

0:12-0:35-2018 through AFC Championship Game

0:36-0:48- 2021 Season through 13 Seconds

0:50-1:15- 2022 Season through Present

1:17-End-After Coaching Change

Edited December 8, 2023 by I Am The Liquor

[Peter]

Just now, billybob71 said:

oh i dont need to read this to know what my eyes tell me, his late game strategy sucks lol i want him replaced and dont need an article to come to that conclusion, history speaks for itself lol

 

Indeed.

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

How dare the offense score an average amount of points for a 6game stretch! 

 

When you have a top 5 QB, you don't want a 6 game stretch of average.  Especially during the weak portion of your schedule.

[TheFunPolice]

26 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

Said this earlier, but listening to NYC sports radio guys getting hot and bothered about this on my way home from work was an eye opener. I tune in to bask in the latest Zach/Saleh/Jets bashing and instead I get this? 

 

 

Imagine if this story came out right before week 1 this season.

 

McDermott would not have been safe in that stadium. 

[Beck Water]

16 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

It's an interesting question.  I listened to Dunne on the Schopp and Bulldog show this afternoon and it sounded very targeted (I won't say biased but that's probably the closest word).

 

He said all the people quoted had positive comments about Sean but even more positive about Beane and even said that Beane probably put out more fires than most people know about because of Sean.

 

Made references to Allen being the best thing since sliced bread and Sean was always going to hold him back. (paraphrasing).

 

 

I honestly do think that the digging and info that came out wasn't true and all happened but at the same time, I also believe that Dunne has an axe to grind with McD since he doesn't give "new media" media credentials.

 

 

 

I'm having trouble parsing that - do you mean "info that came out was true and all happened"?

 

I believe it probably happened, but I also think as you allude there are probably a bunch of positive things that didn't make it into the article.

 

Like I said, Dunne makes his living by publishing controversial takes.  A nuanced or balanced take wouldn't gain him subscriptions.  I think in this case, it may not have had as good a result since it's gotten so much media airplay that people will roll with that and not go subscribe.