Buffalo716 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: i think he’s talking about 2015-2020 ish with the old core like Eichel, Reinhart, Nylander, etc. It is true that the Sabres had the #1 ranked prospect pool multiple times during the previous rebuild and it never led to winning. However, I do think this time is different. Their pipeline this time is sooooo deep. Way deeper than any time in the last decade or more. And it actually seems like the kids are developing this time. Plus, they’re already having success in the NHL. I am really looking forward to this season! Eichel and Reinhart almost came straight to the NHL... eichel did Reinhardt took one year They really weren't part of our minor league pipeline system.. Reinhardt for like a year Sabers had some good young talent coming straight up.. but our minor league pipeline was absolutely still pretty bare even in 2016... Certainly not the best in the NHL It's nothing like today.. where we have future top 6 forwards in the OHL and WHL and in Rochester We didn't have that in 2016... We had two 19 year olds who were supposed to be studs.. that's about it Edited September 18, 2023 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 8 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: i think he’s talking about 2015-2020 ish with the old core like Eichel, Reinhart, Nylander, etc. It is true that the Sabres had the #1 ranked prospect pool multiple times during the previous rebuild and it never led to winning. However, I do think this time is different. Their pipeline this time is sooooo deep. Way deeper than any time in the last decade or more. And it actually seems like the kids are developing this time. Plus, they’re already having success in the NHL. I am really looking forward to this season! LOL, all those prospects were traded away by Tim Murray. Except for Brandon Hagel. Jason Botterill wasn't impressed and let him walk. I wonder how he's doing now? Oh, and this.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: Eichel and Reinhart almost came straight to the NHL... eichel did Reinhardt took one year They really weren't part of our minor league pipeline system.. Reinhardt for like a year Sabers had some good young talent coming straight up.. but our minor league pipeline was absolutely still pretty bare even in 2016... Certainly not the best in the NHL It's nothing like today.. where we have future top 6 forwards in the OHL and WHL and in Rochester We didn't have that in 2016... We had two 19 year olds who were supposed to be studs.. that's about it The Sabres still had the #1 prospect pool ranking in 2014/15, 2018 and numerous top 3 rankings too. https://theathletic.com/459786/2018/08/30/pronman-2018-19-nhl-farm-system-rankings/?amp=1 But I agree, this time is different. They have an insane amount of good prospects right now. And it’s actually transferring to the ice this time. Prospects are developing, both in the AHL and NHL. I wasn’t disagreeing with your post BTW. I was just pointing out that to a casual Buffalo Sabres fan who hasn’t been paying attention to this latest version of the rebuild, I can see why a top prospect pool doesn’t mean a whole lot to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: The Sabres still had the #1 prospect pool ranking in 2014/15, 2018 and numerous top 3 rankings too. https://theathletic.com/459786/2018/08/30/pronman-2018-19-nhl-farm-system-rankings/?amp=1 But I agree, this time is different. They have an insane amount of good prospects right now. And it’s actually transferring to the ice this time. Prospects are developing, both in the AHL and NHL. I wasn’t disagreeing with your post BTW. I was just pointing out that to a casual Buffalo Sabres fan who hasn’t been paying attention to this latest version of the rebuild, I can see why a top prospect pool doesn’t mean a whole lot to them. Well to be fair 2018 is when we drafted Dahlin.. which is when I said our pipeline actually changed.. we've became loaded from 18 to 23 Our pipeline in 2014-2015 was barren.. besides Jack eichel and Sam Reinhart.. which shot us to the top of the rankings because we had two projected superstars But they started playing in Buffalo at 19 years old ... They never really were a part of a pipeline... They were thrown right to the big leagues.. they weren't seasoned in the minor leagues... The difference between 2014 and 2023... Is we have bona fide top 6 forwards in the minor league system.. we didn't have that outside of Jack and Sam... Who basically came right away Take Reinhardt and eichel off the prospect list... And it's not great I think those two players greatly influenced the rankings... But we didn't have much outside of them in the pipeline Today... We literally have 10 plus guys who will be NHL players from the OHL WHL and Rochester Edited September 18, 2023 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Well to be fair 2018 is when we drafted Dahlin.. which is when I said our pipeline actually changed.. we've became loaded from 18 to 23 Our pipeline in 2014-2015 was barren.. besides Jack eichel and Sam Reinhart.. which shot us to the top of the rankings because we had two projected superstars But they started playing in Buffalo at 19 years old ... They never really were a part of a pipeline... They were thrown right to the big leagues.. they weren't seasoned in the minor leagues... The difference between 2014 and 2023... Is we have bona fide top 6 forwards in the minor league system.. we didn't have that outside of Jack and Sam Take Reinhardt and eichel off the prospect list... And it's horrible Yes, I agree. They’ve never had a prospect pool like this since the rebuild started in 2013. They have good prospects in juniors, the AHL, Russia, Europe… it’s crazy! I was just saying that the #1 prospect pool ranking (the ranking itself) probably doesn’t mean much to Sabres fans that haven’t really been following the team lately like pine barrens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 minute ago, BillsFan4 said: I was just saying that the #1 prospect pool ranking (the ranking itself) probably doesn’t mean much to Sabres fans that haven’t really been following the team lately like pine barrens. This is true as I am sort of in the same boat. I recognize the potential and think it's going to be for realz this time, but I am not buying in until I see it on the ice. fwiw, yesterday I just convinced DTV to cut my bill nearly in half or I was cancelling because they lost Sunday Ticket. The only reason I even considered keeping it was because it's the only place I can get Sabres games down here in Western Pennsyltucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Yes, I agree. They’ve never had a prospect pool like this since the rebuild started in 2013. They have good prospects in juniors, the AHL, Russia, Europe… it’s crazy! I was just saying that the #1 prospect pool ranking (the ranking itself) probably doesn’t mean much to Sabres fans that haven’t really been following the team lately like pine barrens. We have crazy good europeaners ! Talent in the OHL, WHL, even D1 They are stacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 ...and Savoie gets hurt in the 1st period. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 20 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: Yes, I agree. They’ve never had a prospect pool like this since the rebuild started in 2013. They have good prospects in juniors, the AHL, Russia, Europe… it’s crazy! I was just saying that the #1 prospect pool ranking (the ranking itself) probably doesn’t mean much to Sabres fans that haven’t really been following the team lately like pine barrens. At one point, we had an embarrassment of riches, especially on the blue line. Myers (still very young, but not a prospect at that time), Zadorov, Ristolainen, Pysyk, McNabb were all blue chip D 1st Round level prospects. There were also guys like Compher and Lemieux who were highly rated around that time... plus Grigorenko and Girgensons drafted in the first round, not to mention the promise of the upcoming tank picks. They also possessed a ton of draft capital at that point. Under Murray, they squandered much of that and also failed to develop, and lost organizational assets at pennies on the dollar. Now, they have the organizational/prospect depth at forward (while also have top 3 young NHL defenseman). It looks like they are developing well. I think they hit a grand slam on Benson falling to them. Still need to put it all together and get over the hump to be a relevant NHL franchise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 21 hours ago, Simon said: This is true as I am sort of in the same boat. I recognize the potential and think it's going to be for realz this time, but I am not buying in until I see it on the ice. fwiw, yesterday I just convinced DTV to cut my bill nearly in half or I was cancelling because they lost Sunday Ticket. The only reason I even considered keeping it was because it's the only place I can get Sabres games down here in Western Pennsyltucky. FYI. Here in VT, with the exception of games against the Bruins (NESN) or Rangers (MSG) which are blacked out, I get all of the Sabres games on ESPN+. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 17 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: FYI. Here in VT, with the exception of games against the Bruins (NESN) or Rangers (MSG) which are blacked out, I get all of the Sabres games on ESPN+. I have ESPN+ as well. It's a pretty good deal. I'm in Tampa, so I get all the games except Lightning games. Even Tampa games played in Buffalo are blacked out, which is stupid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Preseason less than a week away. First game at Washington 9/25. First home game 9/27 vs Philadelphia. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 17 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: FYI. Here in VT, with the exception of games against the Bruins (NESN) or Rangers (MSG) which are blacked out, I get all of the Sabres games on ESPN+. I should amend my post to insert the word "free". I don't intend on keeping DTV for all eternity so this might be a viable option. Thanks! P.S. Does it matter how far you are from Bos/NY resulting in blackouts? I'm right on the very edge of the Erie broadcast zone which is why I get Sabres games even though I'm much closer to Pittsburgh than Buffalo. Although, all my networks are P'burgh affiliates so I don't know if that is what decides my fate re: blackouts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 19 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: FYI. Here in VT, with the exception of games against the Bruins (NESN) or Rangers (MSG) which are blacked out, I get all of the Sabres games on ESPN+. 1 hour ago, Fleezoid said: I have ESPN+ as well. It's a pretty good deal. I'm in Tampa, so I get all the games except Lightning games. Even Tampa games played in Buffalo are blacked out, which is stupid. Yeah, ESPN+ coverage of the NHL has been amazing. I think I caught almost every Sabres game last year, or could have if I wanted to. Looking forward to this season as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Having Verizon and getting Disney+, Hulu and ESPN+ included has been great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Gregg said: Preseason less than a week away. First game at Washington 9/25. First home game 9/27 vs Philadelphia. They play at 2pm while the Bills are playing at 1pm. Who made that decision? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jauronimo Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 4 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Yeah, ESPN+ coverage of the NHL has been amazing. I think I caught almost every Sabres game last year, or could have if I wanted to. Looking forward to this season as well. Same. ESPN+ has nearly every game. The only exceptions are NHLNet broadcasts and the occasional Stars game because some ####### thinks Houston is in the Dallas market. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: some ####### thinks Houston is in the Dallas market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 https://x.com/ben_mathewson/status/1704643454234493221?s=46&t=aPpesQ9OFgU8cA3wnTdNeA The Ducks are being choosy [with Zegras]? They want to break it? I heard there's a team looking that way and it's the Buffalo Sabres. The Sabers have to make the playoffs this year and you solve your problem by bringing Zegras,” the journalist told JiC. um what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 27 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: https://x.com/ben_mathewson/status/1704643454234493221?s=46&t=aPpesQ9OFgU8cA3wnTdNeA The Ducks are being choosy [with Zegras]? They want to break it? I heard there's a team looking that way and it's the Buffalo Sabres. The Sabers have to make the playoffs this year and you solve your problem by bringing Zegras,” the journalist told JiC. um what? That does not excite me. Zegras has highlight reel handling but I don't think hes a complete player from the limited games of his I've seen. Ducks fans insist he cant take contact and hes a defensive zone liability. I think he'd be our 3rd line C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 22 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: They play at 2pm while the Bills are playing at 1pm. Who made that decision? Any word yet on if it will be live streamed? Hopefully the Capitals do a live stream and the Sabres pick it up. preseason coverage is always so hit or miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/kane-needs-another-month-of-rehab-sabres-among-interested-suitors-1.2010601 Patrick Kane? Not sure what to think about this...five years too late. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 On 9/20/2023 at 11:18 AM, Simon said: I should amend my post to insert the word "free". I don't intend on keeping DTV for all eternity so this might be a viable option. Thanks! P.S. Does it matter how far you are from Bos/NY resulting in blackouts? I'm right on the very edge of the Erie broadcast zone which is why I get Sabres games even though I'm much closer to Pittsburgh than Buffalo. Although, all my networks are P'burgh affiliates so I don't know if that is what decides my fate re: blackouts. Not sure about that, but I’m sure you could find out what your blackout restrictions are by calling customer service. Do you know anyone in your area that has ESPN+? If so, they also might be able to speak to that. I get why the Bruins/Sabres games are blacked out here, but I don’t understand why the Rangers games are also. Most people here hate everything NYC related. Might as well live in Massachusetts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 https://www.audacy.com/wgr550/sports/sabres/adams-sabres-championship-window-is-open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 https://www.nhl.com/sabres/news/how-to-watch-buffalo-sabres-preseason-games-2023 How to watch the Sabres' 2023 preseason games: All 7 games will be available on MSG or Sabres.com Quote Below is the team’s preseason schedule with info on how to watch each game. Sunday, Sept. 24 at Washington – 2 p.m. Watch: Sabres.com (Washington feed with Capitals commentators) Listen: WBEN 930 AM (Dan Dunleavy and Rob Ray) Tuesday, Sept. 26 vs. Boston – 7 p.m. Watch: MSG (NESN feed with Bruins commentators) Listen: WGR 550 (Dan Dunleavy and Marty Biron) Wednesday, Sept. 27 at Toronto – 6:30 p.m. Watch: MSG (Sportsnet national feed) Listen: WGR 550 (Dan Dunleavy and Rob Ray) Thursday, Sept. 28 at Pittsburgh – 7 p.m. Watch: Sabres.com (Pittsburgh feed with Penguins commentators) Listen: WGR 550 (Dan Dunleavy and Rob Ray) Saturday, Sept. 30 vs. Columbus – 3 p.m. Watch: Sabres.com (Dan Dunleavy and Rob Ray) Listen: WGR 550 (Dan Dunleavy and Rob Ray) Wednesday, Oct. 4 at Columbus – 7 p.m. Watch: Sabres.com (Columbus feed with Blue Jackets commentators) Listen: WGR 550 (Dan Dunleavy and Rob Ray) Friday, Oct. 6 vs. Pittsburgh – 7 p.m. Watch: MSG (Dan Dunleavy and Rob Ray; pregame starting at 6:30 p.m.) Listen: WGR 550 (Radio Simulcast) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Zach Benson looks amazing. Hard to believe he just turned 18 four months ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted September 27, 2023 Author Share Posted September 27, 2023 Rick Jenarette, in his current condition, sounds more alive than Jack Edwards 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 13 hours ago, Draconator said: Rick Jenarette, in his current condition, sounds more alive than Jack Edwards Yes, that was painful to listen to. Hadn't listened to him in a long time and my first thought was he had a stroke. Looked it up and it turns out it is a different condition; Mitochondrial Dysfunction, which I'd never heard of. It causes fatigue, muscle weakness and neurological problems. It's really too bad for him, but for fans' sake, he should retire. Or perhaps they could have him do spots on their intermission show. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Jeebus, Zach Benson is going to make the big club isn’t he?! Gosh he just reminds me of Danny Briere so much. Kids gonna be a stud. Just turned 18. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 11 hours ago, Fleezoid said: Yes, that was painful to listen to. Hadn't listened to him in a long time and my first thought was he had a stroke. Looked it up and it turns out it is a different condition; Mitochondrial Dysfunction, which I'd never heard of. It causes fatigue, muscle weakness and neurological problems. It's really too bad for him, but for fans' sake, he should retire. Or perhaps they could have him do spots on their intermission show. As sad as this sounds I’m actually glad to hear Edwards has a medical condition…it’s that bad. Best wishes for his health. This is just a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Toronto game was pretty ugly. UPL was in midseason form. Olofsson blended right in with the other AHL'ers. The lineup was certainly lacking but not a lot of positives to take away from that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 17 hours ago, eball said: As sad as this sounds I’m actually glad to hear Edwards has a medical condition…it’s that bad. Best wishes for his health. This is just a game. Same, I tuned in to catch the end of the game and assumed they had a special spot guy doing it for pre season. Man it was a tough listen, but I at least have more understanding now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 3 hours ago, QCity said: Toronto game was pretty ugly. UPL was in midseason form. Olofsson blended right in with the other AHL'ers. The lineup was certainly lacking but not a lot of positives to take away from that one. Problem. 17 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Jeebus, Zach Benson is going to make the big club isn’t he?! Gosh he just reminds me of Danny Briere so much. Kids gonna be a stud. Just turned 18. Solution. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 (edited) On 9/27/2023 at 11:23 AM, Fleezoid said: Yes, that was painful to listen to. Hadn't listened to him in a long time and my first thought was he had a stroke. Looked it up and it turns out it is a different condition; Mitochondrial Dysfunction, which I'd never heard of. It causes fatigue, muscle weakness and neurological problems. It's really too bad for him, but for fans' sake, he should retire. Or perhaps they could have him do spots on their intermission show. Same here. I hadn’t heard edwards call a game in years and my first thought was “did he have a stroke?” so I googled it and found the same thin you did. On 9/26/2023 at 8:14 PM, QCity said: Zach Benson looks amazing. Hard to believe he just turned 18 four months ago. On 9/27/2023 at 10:45 PM, Johnny Hammersticks said: Jeebus, Zach Benson is going to make the big club isn’t he?! Gosh he just reminds me of Danny Briere so much. Kids gonna be a stud. Just turned 18. Now you all can see why I was so hyped on draft night when he fell to #13! are fans still worried about his size? 😉 lol yeah, he’s going to be a good one. (edit - I get why his size was a concern. I wasn’t mocking anyone for that, just to be clear) Edited September 29, 2023 by BillsFan4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wacka Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) On 9/27/2023 at 11:23 AM, Fleezoid said: Yes, that was painful to listen to. Hadn't listened to him in a long time and my first thought was he had a stroke. Looked it up and it turns out it is a different condition; Mitochondrial Dysfunction, which I'd never heard of. It causes fatigue, muscle weakness and neurological problems. It's really too bad for him, but for fans' sake, he should retire. Or perhaps they could have him do spots on their intermission show. Mitochondria are yhe power house of all cells. They are an organelle which generates ATP, Which the cell uses for energy. From what I remember, there is no cure and you just get weaker and weaker. Edited October 4, 2023 by Wacka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 https://x.com/buffalosabres/status/1711492420846649519?s=61&t=mvFwLU5P2NuqNnOmVpYtwg Benson made the opening night roster. We will see if he just gets 9 games or actually sticks on the roster. I think if he continues to play like he did in the preseason he won’t leave much choice but to stay in Buffalo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Do we know what the lines will look like yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Do we know what the lines will look like yet? https://www.nhl.com/sabres/news/buffalo-sabres-practice-report-keybank-center-october-9-3-roster-storylines-zach-benson-rasmus-dahlin 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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