SoCal Deek Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 7 minutes ago, Chicharito said: The stadium is starting to become behind schedule. No contracts for mechanical’s have been awarded yet. The contracts were supposed to be awarded on Halloween and here we are January 2nd with nothing. The more they delay the bigger the supply issues become. Interesting. Not living in WNY anymore I’m wondering how you know this. Has the local media been reporting on it? Seems like a lot of inside baseball gossip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Chicharito said: The stadium is starting to become behind schedule. No contracts for mechanical’s have been awarded yet. The contracts were supposed to be awarded on Halloween and here we are January 2nd with nothing. The more they delay the bigger the supply issues become. Take it for what is worth, poloncarz said they were ahead of schedule because of the mild winter a few days ago. https://www.wgrz.com/video/news/local/as-seen-on-tv/71-55d2756d-38bb-40a7-bff7-9ad034fa9e69 For those that don't want to watch: specifically said they poured the concrete a few weeks earlier than expected and material availability would be the only thing that they are worried about. Edited January 2 by The Wiz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 46 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Because most of you know I’m very much into this stuff, see if you can google the new year-in-construction-review progress video just posted on the New Everton Football Club waterfront stadium. I cannot help but be envious of what they’re creating and can’t help but think of how cool something like it would’ve been on a very similar downtown Buffalo waterfront site. The Everton stadium will open this coming summer and so the last months progress shows seats and video screens being installed. In a word….wow! Thanks for the heads up on this build! I checked it out and it was really cool. I’ve said it a couple times in this thread, but a lack of a VR/fly-through at this point just doesn’t make any sense. Even objectively speaking, I think you’d have to say the Bills have done a pretty poor job generating much excitement around the new facility. They’ve given us almost nothing. A few stills. Truly baffling. Now, we all know Bills fans are a rare breed who continue to show up and show out no matter what, but good luck with selling those high $ PSLs if people have zero expectation or idea of what they are getting. How hard would it be to throw a live cam up at the very least? It seems like once Kim had her unfortunate medical issue, and they moved on from Ron Raccuia, that anything stadium-related (outside of the actual construction) has been a complete afterthought. If either of them were still involved as originally planned, I think this whole thing would be going much differently from a fan experience perspective. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicharito Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 3 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Interesting. Not living in WNY anymore I’m wondering how you know this. Has the local media been reporting on it? Seems like a lot of inside baseball gossip. Buffalo building trades council 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 3 hours ago, Blank Stare said: Thanks for the heads up on this build! I checked it out and it was really cool. I’ve said it a couple times in this thread, but a lack of a VR/fly-through at this point just doesn’t make any sense. Even objectively speaking, I think you’d have to say the Bills have done a pretty poor job generating much excitement around the new facility. They’ve given us almost nothing. A few stills. Truly baffling. Now, we all know Bills fans are a rare breed who continue to show up and show out no matter what, but good luck with selling those high $ PSLs if people have zero expectation or idea of what they are getting. How hard would it be to throw a live cam up at the very least? It seems like once Kim had her unfortunate medical issue, and they moved on from Ron Raccuia, that anything stadium-related (outside of the actual construction) has been a complete afterthought. If either of them were still involved as originally planned, I think this whole thing would be going much differently from a fan experience perspective. I wonder if they just eliminated those line items from the architect/engineer budget to save some money. They already got their public funds and probably figure that a flythrough now would not influence ticket buying behavior when it opens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Listening to state sponsored Bills radio while driving. They just had Thurman on. Considering his company is playing a big role in stadium construction, you would think the topic would have come up during his two segments as a guest…nope, nada, nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 11 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Listening to state sponsored Bills radio while driving. They just had Thurman on. Considering his company is playing a big role in stadium construction, you would think the topic would have come up during his two segments as a guest…nope, nada, nothing. I didn’t listen. But what’s even more interesting hearing this. Isn’t that it wasn’t brought up to him at all. It’s that he didn’t bring it up at all. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 57 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: I wonder if they just eliminated those line items from the architect/engineer budget to save some money. They already got their public funds and probably figure that a flythrough now would not influence ticket buying behavior when it opens. Could be. Inexplicable to me to this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 the eventual new Highmark Stadium was what Churchill was really talking about when he said “An enigma, shrouded in a riddle, wrapped in mystery”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 5 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Because most of you know I’m very much into this stuff, see if you can google the new year-in-construction-review progress video just posted on the New Everton Football Club waterfront stadium. I cannot help but be envious of what they’re creating and can’t help but think of how cool something like it would’ve been on a very similar downtown Buffalo waterfront site. The Everton stadium will open this coming summer and so the last months progress shows seats and video screens being installed. In a word….wow! I couldn’t sit and watch all 16min of the vid I saw. But looked pretty cool. I’ll continue to say I have no doubt we will end up with an awesome stadium. But could have been so much more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 11 minutes ago, mrags said: I couldn’t sit and watch all 16min of the vid I saw. But looked pretty cool. I’ll continue to say I have no doubt we will end up with an awesome stadium. But could have been so much more You can fast forward to the end, or just google the renderings. What I find interesting about the Everton facility is that it's waterfront setting in that traditionally blue-collar town is virtually identical to what was being proposed for the Buffalo Waterfront site. I am not implying that what the Bills are doing now isn't going to be a vast improvement over the current stadium but if people wonder what a waterfront facility might have looked like, they need look no further than the Everton videos/renderings. Again....pretty darn cool! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 4 hours ago, Blank Stare said: Thanks for the heads up on this build! I checked it out and it was really cool. I’ve said it a couple times in this thread, but a lack of a VR/fly-through at this point just doesn’t make any sense. Even objectively speaking, I think you’d have to say the Bills have done a pretty poor job generating much excitement around the new facility. They’ve given us almost nothing. A few stills. Truly baffling. Now, we all know Bills fans are a rare breed who continue to show up and show out no matter what, but good luck with selling those high $ PSLs if people have zero expectation or idea of what they are getting. How hard would it be to throw a live cam up at the very least? It seems like once Kim had her unfortunate medical issue, and they moved on from Ron Raccuia, that anything stadium-related (outside of the actual construction) has been a complete afterthought. If either of them were still involved as originally planned, I think this whole thing would be going much differently from a fan experience perspective. It's not like the stadium opens next month. They have time. All that happened is a missed (self-imposed) deadline. But yes, it's weird. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 11 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: You can fast forward to the end, or just google the renderings. What I find interesting about the Everton facility is that it's waterfront setting in that traditionally blue-collar town is virtually identical to what was being proposed for the Buffalo Waterfront site. I am not implying that what the Bills are doing now isn't going to be a vast improvement over the current stadium but if people wonder what a waterfront facility might have looked like, they need look no further than the Everton videos/renderings. Again....pretty darn cool! That is a beautiful stadium but I really am glad the Bills decided not to build on the waterfront in Buffalo. That would have been one cold ass stadium with the wind whipping off the lake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 minute ago, Beast said: That is a beautiful stadium but I really am glad the Bills decided not to build on the waterfront in Buffalo. That would have been one cold ass stadium with the wind whipping off the lake. You said it. Tailgating would be like an Arctic expedition in December and January. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 4 minutes ago, Beast said: That is a beautiful stadium but I really am glad the Bills decided not to build on the waterfront in Buffalo. That would have been one cold ass stadium with the wind whipping off the lake. The point is it would have been a dome. 2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: You said it. Tailgating would be like an Arctic expedition in December and January. Don’t worry, with the price of tickets and PSLs in the new stadium as well as mostly team run parking, the majority of crowds at Bills games after the new stadium is built will be the wine and cheese crowd that show up 30 minutes before kickoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 11 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: It's not like the stadium opens next month. They have time. All that happened is a missed (self-imposed) deadline. But yes, it's weird. They originally said that the VR Tours would be available last March I think it was, Spring anyway. We're coming up on a year after that. We're all curious, but the big mystery seems to be why they would be holding it back. It's being built, under construction, yet no great details have been provided as to what the final product will look like. Other stadium projects have provided the info when they've had it, for sure well before now in their projects, past and current. Yet here it's some big mystery. It definitely begs the question as to why. The only logical explanation as to why they'd want to wait would be a "big reveal" of sorts, but that's no possible given the monthly or so drone updates. It's just odd. 2 minutes ago, mrags said: Don’t worry, with the price of tickets and PSLs in the new stadium as well as mostly team run parking, the majority of crowds at Bills games after the new stadium is built will be the wine and cheese crowd that show up 30 minutes before kickoff. It's definitely going to be interesting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 minute ago, PBF81 said: They originally said that the VR Tours would be available last March I think it was, Spring anyway. We're coming up on a year after that. We're all curious, but the big mystery seems to be why they would be holding it back. It's being built, under construction, yet no great details have been provided as to what the final product will look like. Other stadium projects have provided the info when they've had it, for sure well before now in their projects, past and current. Yet here it's some big mystery. It definitely begs the question as to why. The only logical explanation as to why they'd want to wait would be a "big reveal" of sorts, but that's no possible given the monthly or so drone updates. It's just odd. It's definitely going to be interesting. I think it’s going to be hilarious actually. The expectations that people have are not reasonable. The crowd at games in the new stadium is going to be significantly more tame than the barbarians that everyone expects. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) 13 minutes ago, PBF81 said: They originally said that the VR Tours would be available last March I think it was, Spring anyway. We're coming up on a year after that. We're all curious, but the big mystery seems to be why they would be holding it back. It's being built, under construction, yet no great details have been provided as to what the final product will look like. Other stadium projects have provided the info when they've had it, for sure well before now in their projects, past and current. Yet here it's some big mystery. It definitely begs the question as to why. The only logical explanation as to why they'd want to wait would be a "big reveal" of sorts, but that's no possible given the monthly or so drone updates. It's just odd. IMO it is all about the hundreds of millions in estimated cost overruns. One of three things will happen… 1 - Pegula absorbs all the overrun costs, stadium stays as designed, and speculated PSL/tix prices stay at whatever level they may have had in in mind last spring. 2 - PSL and game tix will go up even more than expected because of the overruns(this may be the reason why the VR pitch center for STH has not opened yet). 3 - Stadium amenities/bells and whistles get downgraded to minimize the amount of overruns. Edited January 2 by LabattBlue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 7 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: IMO it is all about the hundreds of millions in estimated cost overruns. One of three things will happen… 1 - Pegula absorbs all the overrun costs. 2 - PSL and game tix will go up even more than expected because of the overruns(this may be the reason why the VR pitch center for STH has not opened yet). 3 - Stadium amenities/bells and whistles get downgraded to minimize the amount of overruns. Cost was my thinking too. We already know a stadium is being built, but they’ve not gone on record with much detail (outside of the Buffalo statue) to manage expectations. In other words, certain things will be cut if these cost overruns get crazy, so don’t get your heart set on any one thing - amenity, design, feature, or otherwise - because everything is subject to change. That’s bunk from a fan perspective, but likely what’s driving the secrecy and scant details. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 19 minutes ago, mrags said: Don’t worry, with the price of tickets and PSLs in the new stadium as well as mostly team run parking, the majority of crowds at Bills games after the new stadium is built will be the wine and cheese crowd that show up 30 minutes before kickoff. You say it like it's a bad thing. My days of hard tailgating in the elements are past. 20 minutes ago, PBF81 said: They originally said that the VR Tours would be available last March I think it was, Spring anyway. We're coming up on a year after that. We're all curious, but the big mystery seems to be why they would be holding it back. It's being built, under construction, yet no great details have been provided as to what the final product will look like. Other stadium projects have provided the info when they've had it, for sure well before now in their projects, past and current. Yet here it's some big mystery. It definitely begs the question as to why. The only logical explanation as to why they'd want to wait would be a "big reveal" of sorts, but that's no possible given the monthly or so drone updates. It's just odd. It's definitely going to be interesting. I wonder if they haven't yet finalized ticket and PSL pricing? The worst thing that could happen is a lot of unsold seats because they got greedy. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: You say it like it's a bad thing. My days of hard tailgating in the elements are past. I’m not commenting on that. What I am saying, is the whole “Bills Mafia” “best fans in the league” “most rabid fan base in the nfl” type of comments that were used to hearing. Are over. It’s going to be a completely different vibe/atmosphere and most people don’t get that. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 2 minutes ago, mrags said: I’m not commenting on that. What I am saying, is the whole “Bills Mafia” “best fans in the league” “most rabid fan base in the nfl” type of comments that were used to hearing. Are over. It’s going to be a completely different vibe/atmosphere and most people don’t get that. Many Bills fans will do what many Jets and Giants fans did. Drop their season tickets to avoid PSL fees and just purchase individual game tickets throughout the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 minute ago, mrags said: I’m not commenting on that. What I am saying, is the whole “Bills Mafia” “best fans in the league” “most rabid fan base in the nfl” type of comments that were used to hearing. Are over. It’s going to be a completely different vibe/atmosphere and most people don’t get that. Sorry I missed that point. I think the fact they are staying in OP means some portion of tailgating will remain. But they definitely want a portion of fans to "tailgate" inside where the new stadium will likely have some eateries and lounges. They might even build something akin to Patriot Place but on a smaller scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 59 minutes ago, Beast said: That is a beautiful stadium but I really am glad the Bills decided not to build on the waterfront in Buffalo. That would have been one cold ass stadium with the wind whipping off the lake. Would've been fine if they built a dome 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 26 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Sorry I missed that point. I think the fact they are staying in OP means some portion of tailgating will remain. But they definitely want a portion of fans to "tailgate" inside where the new stadium will likely have some eateries and lounges. They might even build something akin to Patriot Place but on a smaller scale. I wish they would. Would have been even nicer to build it downtown and you wouldn’t have to create a city center with restaurants, bars, shopping around the stadium. Would have already been there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 39 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: You say it like it's a bad thing. My days of hard tailgating in the elements are past. I wonder if they haven't yet finalized ticket and PSL pricing? The worst thing that could happen is a lot of unsold seats because they got greedy. Well, LOL, unless they come down quite significantly from that first "survey" that they put out, that's exactly what people should anticipate happening though. Buffalo/Erie County isn't the place to be gouging people given what our fanbase is generally speaking. 34 minutes ago, Gregg said: Many Bills fans will do what many Jets and Giants fans did. Drop their season tickets to avoid PSL fees and just purchase individual game tickets throughout the season. Many long time STHs here have even stated as much. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 20 minutes ago, PBF81 said: Well, LOL, unless they come down quite significantly from that first "survey" that they put out, that's exactly what people should anticipate happening though. Buffalo/Erie County isn't the place to be gouging people given what our fanbase is generally speaking. Many long time STHs here have even stated as much. Prices will be up from when that survey came out. Making it even harder for fans to renew seats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, Beast said: That is a beautiful stadium but I really am glad the Bills decided not to build on the waterfront in Buffalo. That would have been one cold ass stadium with the wind whipping off the lake. You're probably right (at least in December) but I think the architecture of the Everton Stadium is much more in keeping with what people would envision for WNY. Everton has a really nice blend of a historically influenced base level with a really contemporary top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Cheney Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 33 minutes ago, mrags said: I wish they would. Would have been even nicer to build it downtown and you wouldn’t have to create a city center with restaurants, bars, shopping around the stadium. Would have already been there. Yup, I hope the new stadium lives up to expectations, but I'm of the personal believe that a downtown location with a dome would be one of the biggest economic booms to the city in a really long time. I understand why things were done how they were, but still can't help but feeling like it's all a bit shortsighted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, mrags said: Don’t worry, with the price of tickets and PSLs in the new stadium as well as mostly team run parking, the majority of crowds at Bills games after the new stadium is built will be the wine and cheese crowd that show up 30 minutes before kickoff. You keep saying this, but Bills tickets have gone up nearly every year (happy to show you some $30 tickets from the 90's) and somehow the "wine and cheese crowd" haven't taken over because of prices. 🤷♂️ I predict the story of the demise of Buffalo Bills Tailgating is being prematurely written by a vocal minority. The people I hang every year at the opener sure as heck aren't going to suddenly change their tailgating style because there's a new (albeit more expensive) building. 🍻 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 5 minutes ago, Dick_Cheney said: Yup, I hope the new stadium lives up to expectations, but I'm of the personal believe that a downtown location with a dome would be one of the biggest economic booms to the city in a really long time. I understand why things were done how they were, but still can't help but feeling like it's all a bit shortsighted. Careful with that thinking. The non believers will find facts from every single new stadium ever built and tell you it’s false. 4 minutes ago, Heitz said: You keep saying this, but Bills tickets have gone up nearly every year (happy to show you some $30 tickets from the 90's) and somehow the "wine and cheese crowd" haven't taken over because of prices. 🤷♂️ I predict the story of the demise of Buffalo Bills Tailgating is being prematurely written by a vocal minority. The people I hang every year at the opener sure as heck aren't going to suddenly change their tailgating style because there's a new (albeit more expensive) building. 🍻 Well. A $90 ticket and. $300 ticket should change some of that. Then there’s the fact that the Bills are buying up much of the private lots and using them for themselves. If they do decide to open those lots for fan parking they will have to abide by the NFL guidelines of when fans are able to arrive, and rules followed in the team owned lots. But keep wishing things won’t change. I’m willing to bet they will and many will be upset about it. To the point where they say we should have just built the stadium downtown anyway if we aren’t allowed to tailgate like real Bills Mafia anyway. Time will tell. I’ve expressed my opinion many times. You all have the ability to make me eat my words in just a few short years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 On 12/29/2023 at 7:19 PM, SoCal Deek said: I thought it would be taller. 🤷🏼♂️ They'll just slap some of those temporary metal bleacher seats like Jerry used in Arlington for the SB that one year, and call it done. 8 hours ago, LabattBlue said: I wonder if they are behind schedule? Drove by the site last Saturday, and they were working away(not just a skeleton crew)…on a holiday weekend no less. OT plus holiday weekend pay = $$$. Probably getting a weeks' worth of pay for one day's work. 2 hours ago, mrags said: The point is it would have been a dome. Don’t worry, with the price of tickets and PSLs in the new stadium as well as mostly team run parking, the majority of crowds at Bills games after the new stadium is built will be the wine and cheese crowd that show up 30 minutes before kickoff. Um, excuse me. I won't be that late. It'll be 45 minutes, want to beat the rush. 1 hour ago, Gregg said: Many Bills fans will do what many Jets and Giants fans did. Drop their season tickets to avoid PSL fees and just purchase individual game tickets throughout the season. That's my plan, unless by some miracle I can get equal seats to what I have now, at 2004 pricing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Hearing with overruns the roof will now cover 6.5% of seats instead of 65%. However, they will be selling in the new bars a drink called “Flaming Table”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) The original estimate for the build was $1.4 billion and any money over that estimate comes out of the Pegulas' pockets. The current cost estimate is now $1.7 billion and that is probably going to be significantly low. That means the Pegulas are already on the hook for $300 million. https://apnews.com/article/bills-new-stadium-cost-overruns-9846e00bd063cf2e8b12406af66c6ef9 Inflation continues to rise monthly. If you see reports that inflation is going down, what is actually happening is that the RATE of inflation is coming down. In layman's terms, what they're saying is that prices (inflation) went up again last month, but the amount that prices (inflation) rose last month was less than it rose the month before. A bit off semantics to put a positive spin on the fact that the cost of everything continues to go up. Before it's all said and done I wouldn't be surprised if the overage is in the $600-700 million range. I know Terry and Kim are flush, but they're not Bezos flush. That is a massive amount of money to come up with, particularly when a lot of the Pegulas' wealth isn't cash sitting in a bank vault somewhere. I don't see a construction contractor accepting a LNG lease in Pennsylvania in trade for building the stadium. If the Pegulas need to start cutting corners the promised "virtual tours" are a fine place start. I'd rather they skimp on stuff like that than the actual stadium. Edited January 2 by Inigo Montoya 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 46 minutes ago, Heitz said: I predict the story of the demise of Buffalo Bills Tailgating is being prematurely written by a vocal minority. That vocal minority consists of fans that didn't get their dome. 43 minutes ago, mrags said: The non believers will find facts from every single new stadium ever built and tell you it’s false. Imagine using facts on TBD? Crazy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Sorry I missed that point. I think the fact they are staying in OP means some portion of tailgating will remain. But they definitely want a portion of fans to "tailgate" inside where the new stadium will likely have some eateries and lounges. They might even build something akin to Patriot Place but on a smaller scale. The Bills could have built a smaller scale Patriot Place over the last 50 years. Nothing then, and if I had to guess nothing going forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 8 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: The Bills could have built a smaller scale Patriot Place over the last 50 years. Nothing then, and if I had to guess nothing going forward. Wasn't part of the reason Orchard Park's allergy to development? When there was talk of bringing the stadium back the city, I recall seeing quotes from OP town leaders about being totally gung-ho for development now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, QCity said: That vocal minority consists of fans that didn't get their dome. Imagine using facts on TBD? Crazy. The facts I’m referring to are from other cities not Buffalo. just like all the fans that don’t live in the area. Don’t have season tix. Just show up in town for 2 weekends a year. Spend roughly $600 on local wing places like Duffs, Anchor Bar, and Bar Bill. Show up to other people’s tailgates and mooch off their food. But think they have an opinion of what the stadium should be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Sources deep within have told me that it will be more difficult to reconstruct War Memorial Stadium than originally believed. They are having trouble recreating the water leaks and the stinky urinal troughs. But, the game day experience will still be similar. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 4 hours ago, LabattBlue said: 3 - Stadium amenities/bells and whistles get downgraded to minimize the amount of overruns. Urinal troughs and downgraded miniature Buffalo statues out front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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