Beane again showing why he is a top GM

[Beast]

I don’t know. GM’s do the restructure thing all the time. 
 

Basically, the only difference from the team from last year is we added a guard, a guy at WR that is a wing and a prayer, and lost Edmunds.

 

There is a ways to go before I will call this off-season successful or not. 

[Billl]

3 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Yeah…:injuries aren’t random.  Look up how many games hyde, Poyer and tredavious missed prior to 2021.  How many games had Ed and Daquan missed? How about Rousseau?  You’re talking about one guy, Von Miller   I stopped reading after that.  You’re a troll.
 

 

So you don’t think there’s a correlation between age and injuries or injury history and injuries?  I didn’t think I was exactly going out on a limb by suggesting it.  

 

More than ever, the NFL is a young man’s game.  Between the addition of a 17th regular season game and the removal of a bye in the postseason, you pretty much have to expect to play 21 games to win a championship compared to 19 in the past.  That puts a lot of strain on older players.

 

It’s a risk/reward proposition.  Beane has chosen to take his chances on some older players and/or those with injury histories.  If they stay healthy, the Bills are championship contenders and he looks like a genius.

[buffalobillswin]

Can he use his magic abilities to find us a pass rusher?

[BarleyNY]

1 hour ago, Success said:

What he has done so far is like a magic trick. This team was WAY over cap just a week ago.  Yes, a lot of contracts were set up to restructure. But we've signed a speedy receiver, a solid starter at guard and re-signed Poyer.  We didn't overpay for Edmunds, and still have some space to bring in a LB, a RB, or possibly both.  We have also retained key role players like Dane Jackson, Martin and Dodson.

 

Personally, I'm much more optimistic about 2023 than I was just a few weeks ago.  And we still have the draft ahead of us.  He DOES need to nail this draft, but I'm just feeling good about the whole deal.

 

It's good to have a capable GM. They're not plentiful in this league, and at worst, everything Beane does is well thought-out, and in line w/ a true vision for what this team needs to be.

 

 

Semi-competence or better at GM usually gets the “magician” label here. Sigh. Probably 28-30 fan bases are convinced everything their GM just did was genius. That includes fans of the GMs who didn’t do anything in FA yet and are waiting for the prices to come down. SMH

[Success]

Just now, buffalobillswin said:

Can he use his magic abilities to find us a pass rusher?

 

We've got a nice once coming back.  And that guy also made Groot, Epenesa, Oliver & the rest look a LOT better.

 

[BarleyNY]

Just now, buffalobillswin said:

Can he use his magic abilities to find us a pass rusher?

Or heal a WR’s hamstring? (Maybe he’s a cleric.)

[Toyo321]

15 hours ago, Success said:

 

The stars aligned at the right time for the Chiefs.  It doesn't mean they're a better team than the Bills.

 

The better team doesn't ALWAYS win the SB.  NFL history has taught us that.  A lot is getting hot at the right time, and getting some breaks.

 

Actually the stars didn't align and were not needed by KC.  KC is and was the better team last season,  and the better coached team won the SB period!  End of Story.  They had the better OC, DC and HC last season.  That to me makes them a better team over US last season.  No luck or getting hot was needed by them.

 

That coaching staff had KC ready to play for every playoff game,  and they won the SB, they deserve that credit.   We get McD "Mr. Clappy" and our team injuries made us look like a JV team vs the Bengals and Miami that was starting a practice squad QB in the playoffs.  We barely won against Miami twice at home and would have lost that playoff game if Tua had started.

 

We were not the team of destiny last year that everyone publicized.  We were above average against the teams we played, and we struggled against really good teams that had any offensive talent and a competent DC on the opposite side of the field.

 

Sorry but drinking all the Von Miller Kool aide and believing in the hype last year did not help, and the result was again was another loss with no AFCCG appearance.

 

Takes a lot more than than just the stars aligning and luck to win a SB. 

 

 

Edited March 16, 2023 by Toyo321

[4merper4mer]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

SB!!!

I’d think so too but you guys locked up JuJu so we’re toast.

[Malazan]

1 hour ago, Bronxbomber21 said:

I'll trade 2 1st round picks for Andy Reed

 

Andy Reid wouldn't trade a 1st round pick to have his son back or the other one from putting little girls into a coma. 

[Punching Bag]

1 hour ago, Success said:

What he has done so far is like a magic trick. This team was WAY over cap just a week ago.  Yes, a lot of contracts were set up to restructure. But we've signed a speedy receiver, a solid starter at guard and re-signed Poyer.  We didn't overpay for Edmunds, and still have some space to bring in a LB, a RB, or possibly both.  We have also retained key role players like Dane Jackson, Martin and Dodson.

 

Personally, I'm much more optimistic about 2023 than I was just a few weeks ago.  And we still have the draft ahead of us.  He DOES need to nail this draft, but I'm just feeling good about the whole deal.

 

It's good to have a capable GM. They're not plentiful in this league, and at worst, everything Beane does is well thought-out, and in line w/ a true vision for what this team needs to be.

 

 

Must be good if @Airseven  does not like!

[Success]

Interesting discussion on the thread.  Clearly, for some fans, a SB is the only thing that puts a GM among the best. Which is fair.

 

I just remember 20+ years of GM's here who couldn't get this team above .500.  And I see other teams around the league - even teams we perceive as being pretty good - being run pretty poorly.

 

There are things Beane can't control, but overall, I think he gives us a better chance to contend than most.

 

[boater]

1 hour ago, Bronxbomber21 said:

I'll trade 2 1st round picks for Andy Reed

Let's not forget Reid's lackluster record and being run out of Philly.

[balln]

I hate to tell you guys / bills fans. 
WHO the eff is rushing the passer on this team until Von gets back. 
 

Rousseu alone can’t rely on. He’s prime  shaq lawson. 

[Eastport bills]

11 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

Why even bring up Keenum?  He was terrible in the preseason.  And fortunately did not have to play important minutes in the regular season.  

 

Every team loses players.  I for one am not too distressed that Edmunds will be in Chi Town.  He may never be heard from again.  As far as Singletary.  So what!  This team runs thru #17.  That is what makes us tick.  

 

That being said, we need to be much better this season on the O line.  And need more weapons on offense.  Lets see how free agency and the draft play out.  But nothing to be doing cartwheels about yet.  Although keeping Poyer is huge for the defense and the psyche of the team.  

The only reason I bring them up is that their positions require competent replacements. Say what you want about Motor and Edmunds, they were important starters on a team that won a lot of games and was one of the favorites to go to the SB the last 2 years. Keemun had plenty of success with a few teams and was a competent backup which is why he keeps getting contracts. I believe Motor could have been a more productive player with a better O-line and play calling that prioritized the run with someone other than Josh. Just see who we bring in to replace Edmunds before criticizing him. Inside LBs don’t get 18 million a year because they suck. 

[ngbills]

Just now, Success said:

Interesting discussion on the thread.  Clearly, for some fans, a SB is the only thing that puts a GM among the best. Which is fair.

 

I just remember 20+ years of GM's here who couldn't get this team above .500.  And I see other teams around the league - even teams we perceive as being pretty good - being run pretty poorly.

 

There are things Beane can't control, but overall, I think he gives us a better chance to contend than most.

 

I would argue a lot of those drought eta teams could have been contenders with Allen as qb. 

[Augie]

36 minutes ago, ngbills said:

Better question is - take way Josh Allen and how many teams are we better than? This supporting cast is getting weaker. 

 

Let’s take away Mahomes and Burrow then, too. The roster gets holes as you spend your $$$ on QB’s, and the Bengal’s aren’t even there yet. The 49’ers have a great roster, but a giant question mark at QB. I like their GM and HC.  Does Boomer finally see his dream Super Bowl matchup……with Brady vs Josh but not on a golf course this time. How many years in a row did he have Bills vs SF in the SB? 

[balln]

Who’s rushing the passer Beane !?!?! 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Sorry OP but this is standard stuff that just about every person on this board has been talking about for months.

And as its stands right now I believe we have signed more FAs than we have lost so no comp pick for Edmunds.  Green Bay got a first round pick for Adams and Bills may get nothing for Edmunds. As it looks now he could have tagged Edmunds and still had enough cap room to make these low to mid-level deals. 

Still a long way to go this offseason but so far nothing special. 

[Chaos]

2 minutes ago, Success said:

Interesting discussion on the thread.  Clearly, for some fans, a SB is the only thing that puts a GM among the best. Which is fair.

 

I just remember 20+ years of GM's here who couldn't get this team above .500.  And I see other teams around the league - even teams we perceive as being pretty good - being run pretty poorly.

 

There are things Beane can't control, but overall, I think he gives us a better chance to contend than most.

 

Based pretty much on one great decision followed by a careers worth of average decision making.  And average beats the hell out of Doug Whaley and Buddy Nix. 

[Augie]

2 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Must be good if @Airseven  does not like!

 

I think he must like the attention, good or bad, so this might not be the best path to take.    🤷‍♂️

[ngbills]

Just now, Augie said:

 

Let’s take away Mahomes and Burrow then, too. The roster gets holes as you spend your $$$ on QB’s, and the Bengal’s aren’t even there yet. The 49’ers have a great roster, but a giant question mark at QB. I like their GM and HC.  Does Boomer finally see his dream Super Bowl matchup……with Brady vs Josh but not on a golf course this time. How many years in a row did he have Bills vs SF in the SB? 

Yes - if the sane qb plays for the bills, chiefs, 49ers, bengals, eagles we lose to all 4 of them. No question in my mind. Heck I would argue we lose to the jets and fins and many other teams. 

[Drew21PA]

You can’t say that!!

 

mcbeane is trash 

[Augie]

1 minute ago, ngbills said:

Yes - if the sane qb plays for the bills, chiefs, 49ers, bengals, eagles we lose to all 4 of them. No question in my mind. Heck I would argue we lose to the jets and fins and many other teams. 

 

….and yet, we were 13-3! This is more confusing than @Royale with Cheese and his infinity stuff! 

[Billl]

4 minutes ago, boater said:

Let's not forget Reid's lackluster record and being run out of Philly.

Yeah, he only took them to 5 NFC Championship games and a Super Bowl in 14 seasons.  

[PauleeeWalnuts]

45 minutes ago, Success said:

 

I mean, to answer the bolded "in general" - I'd challenge anyone to name 3-4 teams that are actually better than the Bills right now.

 

That's better than run of the mill. And as far as this offseason, I expected almost nothing, given our cap situation.  If he signs a LB w/ what we have left - we basically go into the draft without any real "needs."

 

Chiefs, Bengals, Eagles, 49ers. The Bills have not gotten better with any of the moves Beane has made so far. Hell, even the Jets with their additions and Hall coming back are going to give us fits.  Miami showed they can beat us (and almost with a third string QB). Right now the Bills are basically running it back minus Edmunds 

[Dablitzkrieg]

1 hour ago, Einstein said:

 

Abracadabra! Here is an injury prone WR and an old safety! Poof! 

 

 

Why do you hate your life?

[Success]

2 minutes ago, PauleeeWalnuts said:

Chiefs, Bengals, Eagles, 49ers. The Bills have not gotten better with any of the moves Beane has made so far. Hell, even the Jets with their additions and Hall coming back are going to give us fits.  Miami showed they can beat us (and almost with a third string QB). Right now the Bills are basically running it back minus Edmunds 

 

They're running back what was the best team in the league for a pretty long stretch of the season last year.

 

[boater]

6 minutes ago, Billl said:

Yeah, he only took them to 5 NFC Championship games and a Super Bowl in 14 seasons.  

...and they ran him out of town. Maybe a point I could have made better.

[balln]

Just have a bad feeling about this team / roster for this year 

 

they’re not going to move the needle (which we all knew/ beane presser) with free agency this year 

 

they will have to HIT on some draft players. They need one or two IMPACT PLAYERS. Like a mark andrews te 3rd rd. Chris jones 2nd rd DT. 
 

and ultimately. Both things will have to happen. 1) Allen will have to play flawless , elite level, no let downs, no injuries. MVP level 2) coaching has to be elite in playoffs 

 

just don’t see both those things happening. Or the draft HiTs

Edited March 16, 2023 by balln

[Success]

9 minutes ago, Billl said:

Yeah, he only took them to 5 NFC Championship games and a Super Bowl in 14 seasons.  

 

It wasn't THAT unlike how McDermott is starting to be viewed by some of this fanbase. McD hasn't made as many deep runs - but it's been great regular seasons, and generally disappointing results in the end, given the potential.

 

Reid resurrected his career and reputation in KC, in a big way.  And I'm a Reid fan, btw. I thought Philly fans got a lot like some of this fanbase is getting now - getting so spoiled with expectations that they lose sight of what they have.

 

[Matt_In_NH]

Pretty much par for the course so far this off-season.   

[Aussie Joe]

1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:

That's not really impressive. All teams do that.

 

Kinda my point that Beane hasnt really done anything too impressive 

[Augie]

12 minutes ago, balln said:

Who’s rushing the passer Beane !?!?! 

 

That’s YOU! We’ve missed you! Where ya been?   😋

 

They’ve invested a lot, and gotten less than hoped for. The Von ACL was a big swing to fix that problem, and it was working, but we just drew a bad hand. It happens. That sucks. I really like Rousseau but other than that……… some guys. At least there is no Troupe in there. That’s my (typical) glass half full version. 

[Einstein]

3 minutes ago, Success said:

 

It wasn't THAT unlike how McDermott is starting to be viewed by some of this fanbase. McD hasn't made as many deep runs - but it's been great regular seasons, and generally disappointing results in the end, given the potential.

 

Reid resurrected his career and reputation in KC, in a big way.  And I'm a Reid fan, btw. I thought Philly fans got a lot like some of this fanbase is getting now - getting so spoiled with expectations that they lose sight of what they have.

 

 

5 NFCCG and a SB is a lot different than 1 AFCCG and no SB.

[PauleeeWalnuts]

11 minutes ago, Success said:

 

They're running back what was the best team in the league for a pretty long stretch of the season last year.

 

Until it mattered. They barely got out of the wildcard and got embarrassed against the Bengals. They ran it back after 13 seconds and regressed. What do you think is going to happen next year with all the improvements to the Jets and Dolphins? 

[GolfandBills]

8 minutes ago, balln said:

Just have a bad feeling about this team / roster for this year 

 

they’re not going to move the needle (which we all knew/ beane presser) with free agency this year 

 

they will have to HIT on some draft players. They need one or two IMPACT PLAYERS. Like a mark andrews te 3rd rd. Chris jones 2nd rd DT. 
 

and ultimately. Both things will have to happen. 1) Allen will have to play flawless , elite level, no let downs, no injuries. MVP level 2) coaching has to be elite in playoffs 

 

just don’t see both those things happening. Or the draft HiTs

It’s March 

[BillsFan130]

1 hour ago, Meatloaf63 said:

I’ll be happier if he finds more help for the oline. If he doesn’t, he didn’t learn anything from last year’s failures IMO… 

This is where I’m at.

 

Still a lot to play out but so far we have added an “average to slightly above average guard” by the sounds of it, and a speed receiver who hasn’t accomplished much.

 

Still a lot to go, but need to add another weapon, draft a guard early and a tackle who can compete with Spencer brown

Edited March 16, 2023 by BillsFan130

[Success]

3 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

5 NFCCG and a SB is a lot different than 1 AFCCG and no SB.

 

I'm guessing you would have been just as unhappy w/ him as you are w/ McD, or Beane.  Probably more, because he couldn't close the deal w/ so many chances.

 

[balln]

1 minute ago, Augie said:

 

That’s YOU! We’ve missed you! Where ya been?   😋

 

They’ve invested a lot, and gotten less than hoped for. The Von ACL was a big swing to fix that problem, and it was working, but we just drew a bad hand. It happens. That sucks. I really like Rousseau but other than that……… some guys. At least there is no Troupe in there. That’s my (typical) glass half full version. 

Lol. I know. I’m on the go ALL in on offense kind of person. But now looking at roster. The majority of next year. No Von. Their DL looks as weak as it’s ever been from a DE / edge/ rush standpoint. 
 

plus we all act that he’ll come back and be exactly what he was when he was injured. Ehhhhh. Meniscus and an acl (second time same acl). No guarantees folks. Chase young STILL isn’t back! 
 

beane knew it. He knew it would be bad / not ideal this year at the presser. Keep that in mind.

 

gonna need an incredibly improbable draft. 1 starting OL 2) frank clark / impact D 3) mark andrews impact O 

[Success]

1 minute ago, PauleeeWalnuts said:

Until it mattered. They barely got out of the wildcard and got embarrassed against the Bengals. They ran it back after 13 seconds and regressed. What do you think is going to happen next year with all the improvements to the Jets and Dolphins? 

 

You don't put anything on how our circumstances were the last month+ of the season?

 

We had more adversity than any other team.