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NFL announces 2023 compensatory draft picks


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[didn't see this posted elsewhere.]

 

SF gets 7 picks (including three 3rds).

Giants get a 5th and a 7th, plus KC's compensatory 3rd from the Kadarius Toney trade. 

KC gets a 3rd (traded to the Giants), 6th and a 7th.

Rams get three 5ths and a 7th.

New England gets a 4th and a 6th.

None for Buffalo.

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I’ll never understand compensatory picks.


It’s not hard. If you gain more Free Agents then you lose you get nothing. If you lose more Free Agents and then you sign you’re eligible for that amount of comp picks. Then they take like salaries of players gained/lost and take them out of the equation leaving two guys you get picks on. 
 

Over the cap is like 95% accurate and make it very easy to learn 

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9 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:


It’s not hard. If you gain more Free Agents then you lose you get nothing. If you lose more Free Agents and then you sign you’re eligible for that amount of comp picks. Then they take like salaries of players gained/lost and take them out of the equation leaving two guys you get picks on. 
 

Over the cap is like 95% accurate and make it very easy to learn 

That’s easy. Now tell me how you get a 3rd round pick over a 7th? I understand compensation for minority hires.


I looked at OTC and I see they gave Christian Kirk a 3rd round value for the Cardinals while Von Miller was only a 5th round value for the Rams.

 

I don’t get it.

 

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35 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:


This. It's actual discrimination

No it’s not, its compensatory…, 

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1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I’ll never understand compensatory picks.

 

It is pretty simple. 

36 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I understand how you get them, I don’t understand how they come up with what picks you get.

 

I did an explainer last year. Will try and dig it out. In its simplest form it is about the AAV of the deal your free agents sign (both incoming and outgoing). 

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41 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

That’s easy. Now tell me how you get a 3rd round pick over a 7th? I understand compensation for minority hires.


I looked at OTC and I see they gave Christian Kirk a 3rd round value for the Cardinals while Von Miller was only a 5th round value for the Rams.

 

I don’t get it.

 


 

Ok I’ll try to make it as easy as possible. There are also certain thresholds for salaries so if we lose or sign a guy under the minimum threshold it doesn’t count to the formula. Cut players don’t count in the formula.  There are also only 32 comp picks given out. Each team can get a max 4 comp pick on players and additional comp picks on minority coaches which is how the 49ers got 7. 
 

 

So let’s say this year: the Bills lose 4 guys that meet the minimum amount. The amounts are the average per year pay. So we lose Edmunds for 17 million, Poyer for 10 million, Singletary signs for 4 million a year, and Rodger Saffold for 4 million a year. 
 

Then we go out and sign a non cut player like idk let’s say OG Isaac Seumelo for 11 million a year and he’s our only Free Agent we sign that wasn’t cut. 
 

We lose: 

 

Edmunds 17 million

Poyer 10 million

Singletary 4 million 

Saffold 4 million

 

We gained: 

 

Isaac Seumelo for 11 million

 

Thats a net lose of 3 players which means the Bills are now eligible for 3 comp picks. They then take the 2 most like Average per year and negate each other. In this case Poyer contract is the most like Seumelo. 
 

That leaves us with Edmunds, Singletary, and Saffold as players we can get comp picks for. Based on last years threshold we would get

 

3rd for Edmunds, 6th for Singletary, and a 6th for Saffold. 

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1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I’ll never understand compensatory picks.

I don't understand compensatory picks. I don't understand dead cap. I don't understand what's a catch anymore. I don't understand how wind can be confused. I don't understand why we didn't pooch with :13.  I really don't understand why we don't help Josh.

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1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I’ll never understand compensatory picks.

 

It's simple: If you are the Buffalo Bills, subtract 25 from whatever number you should get, if the NFL followed its own rules, and that's how many we end up with. 

 

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20 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It is pretty simple. 

 

I did an explainer last year. Will try and dig it out. In its simplest form it is about the AAV of the deal your free agents sign (both incoming and outgoing). 

If it’s simple how come we don’t know the picks awarded until the NFL announces them? Shouldn’t we be able to mathematically determine what picks each team is getting earlier?

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9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

If it’s simple how come we don’t know the picks awarded until the NFL announces them? Shouldn’t we be able to mathematically determine what picks each team is getting earlier?


Yes you can have a general idea. The only real hold up is getting the financial thresholds for each round every year because it adjusts. The people who follow this stuff knew we weren’t going to get any months ago. 

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Just now, gonzo1105 said:


Yes you can have a general idea. The only real hold up is getting the financial thresholds for each round every year because it adjusts. The people who follow this stuff knew we weren’t going to get any months ago. 

I always went off of lost vs gained and money spent vs money lost. I guess snaps gained and snaps lost also figures into it.

 

I guess you can’t really predict snaps because of injuries.


I still don’t understand the calculations fully but oh well.

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Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I always went off of lost vs gained and money spent vs money lost. I guess snaps gained and snaps lost also figures into it.

 

I guess you can’t really predict snaps because of injuries.


I still don’t understand the calculations fully but oh well.


There is no snaps played, Pro Bowls etc. Thsts folk lore from before people figured out compensatory picks and talking heads would just spout it as fact. It’s literally gained/lost not matter who the player. Contract negation on like average per year salaries. More lost than signed. Eligible for picks. What threshold do the eligible picks meet and comp picks 

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1 minute ago, gonzo1105 said:


There is no snaps played, Pro Bowls etc. Thsts folk lore from before people figured out compensatory picks and talking heads would just spout it as fact. It’s literally gained/lost not matter who the player. Contract negation on like average per year salaries. More lost than signed. Eligible for picks. What threshold do the eligible picks meet and comp picks 

So how does Von Miller’s monster contract only net a 5th?

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11 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

So how does Von Miller’s monster contract only net a 5th?


I actually just read and learned that players with 10 accrued season who receive mega contracts like Millers can receive a maximum of a 5th round pick. Learned something new today 

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2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I’ll never understand compensatory picks.


The only thing I truly understand about comp picks is that Buffalo never gets anything other than a 7th and it only happens every 17 years like the cicada life cycle.

 

52 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

I don't understand compensatory picks. I don't understand dead cap. I don't understand what's a catch anymore. I don't understand how wind can be confused. I don't understand why we didn't pooch with :13.  I really don't understand why we don't help Josh.


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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It is pretty simple. 

 

I did an explainer last year. Will try and dig it out. In its simplest form it is about the AAV of the deal your free agents sign (both incoming and outgoing). 

I want to read that. 

As an example, why did SF get so many picks for lost coordinators whereas we got none for losing Daboll. 

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2 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:


It’s not hard. If you gain more Free Agents then you lose you get nothing. If you lose more Free Agents and then you sign you’re eligible for that amount of comp picks. Then they take like salaries of players gained/lost and take them out of the equation leaving two guys you get picks on. 
 

Over the cap is like 95% accurate and make it very easy to learn 

That’s not entirely true

 

SF got 2 of their 3 3rd round picks for losing minority coaches to other teams. 
 

Saleh and McDaniel qualified as minority coaches. 
 

I’m sort of hoping that Bills ask Daboll to take a 23 and me test. I did and found out I’m 1.2% Native American. If Daboll turned out to be 1% minority, would Bills get a retroactive 3rd round pick?
 

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Just now, pennstate10 said:

That’s not entirely true

 

SF got 2 of their 3 3rd round picks for losing minority coaches to other teams. 
 

Saleh and McDaniel qualified as minority coaches. 
 

I’m sort of hoping that Bills ask Daboll to take a 23 and me test. I did and found out I’m 1.2% Native American. If Daboll turned out to be 1% minority, would Bills get a retroactive 3rd round pick?
 


look at my previous post I said you can get up to 4 picks for PLAYERS. I then stated SF got 4 for players and 3 for coaches. All minority coaches are 3rds so figured it didn’t need to be explained 

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1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

We never get comp pics.

 

How does SF  get 7 !?!?

 

IKR? They had three comp picks for minority hires. I am still.annoyed not a single team has hired Frazier, despite his highly-ranked defenses. Where are our picks? We sowed the seeds, but no reward. 

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I did an explainer last year. Will try and dig it out. In its simplest form it is about the AAV of the deal your free agents sign (both incoming and outgoing). 

 

Awesome. If you happen to find it, post the info or link here! People want to learn.

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1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

If it’s simple how come we don’t know the picks awarded until the NFL announces them? Shouldn’t we be able to mathematically determine what picks each team is getting earlier?

 

We can. Over the cap does a tracker. 

1 hour ago, Fan in Chicago said:

I want to read that. 

As an example, why did SF get so many picks for lost coordinators whereas we got none for losing Daboll. 

 

Ha that bit is simple. I hate that rule too. I don't think the Rooney rule is working but that change made it no better.

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