Maine-iac Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Einstein said: Do you think the Chiefs have studs on defense or something? lol. They are starting 8 rookies. And their #1 CB is out. And you’re counting players that got injured mid-game. After they we’re already getting abused. That doesn’t count. You can’t say we were missing Tre and Poyer while they were getting abused before they went out. What 8 rookies are starting? I got a DE and a CB who are the other 6? Edited January 30, 2023 by Maine-iac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Pretty amazing with all the chiefs injuries on offense and mahomes on 1 leg that they have put up 20 points. That’s coaching for you folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
margolbe Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 I remember all those Patriots games with Brady where scrubs were playing offense and defense and the Patriots still managed the win. It is the coaching 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmonkillebrew Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 59 minutes ago, Rocbillsfan1 said: Every Bills fan needs to be watching this game closely. It’s so maddening at how bad our gameplan was on both sides of the ball. All 4 games we lost in the playoffs with Allen the defense absolutely choked because of the gameplan not the players. You can’t tell me the Bills didn’t have any talent on the defensive side the last 4 years. And McDermott is supposed to be a defensive guy lol. The guy runs a system that works for most of the regular season which is good enough to win games but then he doesn’t gameplan for the teams we are playing in the playoffs. McDermott and Fraiser run a good system that sets a high floor against mediocre offenses, but they are ***** at game planning and coaching against the top minds. They are just too conservative and predictable. Whether its the Bengals game this year, or 13 seconds last year, they choke at big moments. And unfortunately with McDermott calling the shots they will continue to over-invest in the D, neglecting our real future - JA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 57 minutes ago, Eastport bills said: It’s hard to disagree with anything you said. Dorsey trained under Dabol and was OK. Josh made him look better than he deserved. His offense lacked creativity and balance, but in fairness the O-line and skill players underperformed. He’s got to get another year but Frazier has been terrible in 2 straight playoffs. Dallas fires O coord…basically scored as much as bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Handle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: What 8 rookies are starting? I got a DE and a CB who are the other 6? I was being facetious lol. But to answer your question Karlaftis, Watson, McDuffie, and Cook are all rookies. Chiefs now down 2 starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Looks like kc teaches db’s to turn around… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, harmonkillebrew said: McDermott and Fraiser run a good system that sets a high floor against mediocre offenses, but they are ***** at game planning and coaching against the top minds. They are just too conservative and predictable. Whether its the Bengals game this year, or 13 seconds last year, they choke at big moments. And unfortunately with McDermott calling the shots they will continue to over-invest in the D, neglecting our real future - JA. To some degree I completely agree. That said whoever wins this game will probably have hung at least 27 points on the other team. In the playoffs you bring your best defense and hope it holds up (ours was very beat up) and if it can't you just have to outscore them. There are a lot of very good playoff defenses that gave up a lot of points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Einstein said: I was being facetious lol. But to answer your question Karlaftis, Watson, McDuffie, and Cook are all rookies. Chiefs now down 2 starters. Not to mention who they have left on O. Gonna milk clock and kick the fg to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Einstein said: I was being facetious lol. But to answer your question Karlaftis, Watson, McDuffie, and Cook are all rookies. Chiefs now down 2 starters. Where does Cook start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuboirs Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Everyone is overlooking the weather factor last week , it made a huge difference.... Wonder if the loosing QB today will get bashed like Allen did ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Pacheco - 5 catches for 59. Had 13 all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Bengals should have been running the ball last series. Bengals doing their best Buffalo impression throwing haymakers all second half. Connecting on a few but making life tough on themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 And punters coaches do kick to sideline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Watching this game just makes me more upset about Frazier. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) Jones and Clark or Hendrix and Hubbard ........... we need a couple guys playing in our next playoff game that can drop a QB Edited January 30, 2023 by Maine-iac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 KC put on a defensive clinic. THAT is how you stop a pass happy offense. NOT by dropping all your CB’s back and playing soft. Get right in their face and mess them up. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: Jones and Clark or Hendrix and Hubbard ........... we need a couple guys playing in our next playoff game that can drop a QB We need DeAndre Hopkins, 2 new offensive lineman, and another offensive weapon on top of Diggs and hopefully Hopkins for our next playoff game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, McBean said: We need DeAndre Hopkins, 2 new offensive lineman, and another offensive weapon on top of Diggs and hopefully Hopkins for our next playoff game. I'm all for some help on the O-line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Spagnulo has always had something win or lose and his defenses show up in big games regardless of talent. Must be nice. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 35 minutes ago, ngbills said: Pacheco - 5 catches for 59. Had 13 all year. He was 10 for 26 as a runner. Kelce seriously sounding like a clown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakAttack Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) It’s truly amazing how even though Mahomes gets all the glory, their middle-of-the-pack (at best) ranked defense ALWAYS come through the rare times Mahomes is stopped. The Bengals controlled their own destiny at the end of the game. Chris Jones is an Example of the reason we signed Von Miller, as we should have! The Bills recognized the value of having a closer in the playoffs, but naturally, it’s OUR closer that gets hurt. I don’t think it is just a Bills fan’s perspective when I say, the Chiefs are the luckiest team in the NFL. like the old Pats, something, somehow, no matter how absurd, always seems to go right for them at the end of the game…. Even if it’s unrelated to their QB!! I hate football. Really do. Edited January 30, 2023 by BobBelcher 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Imma disagree with you OP, because KC's nobodies on D are better than our myriad high draft picks on D. And Chris Jones is head and shoulders above anybody we have not named Von Miller. Our D line is good enough to beat the dregs of the AFC, but it ain't good enough to get us to a Super Bowl, let alone win one. I'm not letting coaching off the hook, because our coaching staff chokes in the big moments. But we have a significant talent gap on D. I think we need to go all in on offense, and get into shootouts with KC and Cinci, because our D is not going to slow them down anytime soon. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said: Spagnulo has always had something win or lose and his defenses show up in big games regardless of talent. Must be nice. He has Chris Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Scott7975 said: Dont want to get a ban for comparing our team to the teams playing in the GDT so I am putting it here. Im totally convinced its coaching. KC its killing that Oline. Their players arent better than ours. Jones is a beast but really nobodies outside of that. The difference is how they actually play the receivers tight and not 10 yards off and back up at the snap. Burrow cant throw quick because it aint there for free. Same story on offense. Allen may not be Mahomes but he is elite. Their offensive design and coaching is second to none. I feel like Dorsey is just backyard football. A lot of people say "Josh wont take the underneath stuff." I believe he would if he was coached to and the plays were designed to. Yep... I realize the Bills had a whole bunch of injuries along the way...But that did not stop them from fielding 6 of their own 1st round picks, 2 of their own 2nd round picks, one of the better slot corners in the NFL, Milano, and an admittedly banged up Poyer on Defense alone...There's got to be a way to use that talent better. Even if it isn't all disruptive talent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 I'm going to go silver lining here and say a lot of the Eagles pass rushers are guys in there 3rd and 4th years where they went from 6 or 7 sack guys to 10 plus sack guys. Maybe AJ and Rousseau turn into sack monsters to go along with Miller next year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 25 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said: Spagnulo has always had something win or lose and his defenses show up in big games regardless of talent. Must be nice. Yet there defense is never elite during the season. Would you rather have an elite regular season defense or elite playoff defense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, Einstein said: Yet there defense is never elite during the season. Would you rather have an elite regular season defense or elite playoff defense? Post season all day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWatson#21 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Been saying this for a while. Allen has been carrying these guys. The division titles are nice but lets be real with how weak the afc east has been since Brady left it doesn’t take a coaching guru to win it when you have Josh Allen playing QB. 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 29 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said: Spagnulo has always had something win or lose and his defenses show up in big games regardless of talent. Must be nice. He had a good game plan. Still could have easily lost but a good plan nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 28 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said: Spagnulo has always had something win or lose and his defenses show up in big games regardless of talent. Must be nice. Serious question: what low talent defense of Spagnulo's showed up in a big game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 26 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: He was 10 for 26 as a runner. Kelce seriously sounding like a clown. Kelce, Kittle and Gronk are all drunk frat boys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 37 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Imma disagree with you OP, because KC's nobodies on D are better than our myriad high draft picks on D. And Chris Jones is head and shoulders above anybody we have not named Von Miller. Our D line is good enough to beat the dregs of the AFC, but it ain't good enough to get us to a Super Bowl, let alone win one. I'm not letting coaching off the hook, because our coaching staff chokes in the big moments. But we have a significant talent gap on D. I think we need to go all in on offense, and get into shootouts with KC and Cinci, because our D is not going to slow them down anytime soon. Then either our gm or coaches should be fired. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 If tonights game wasnt a damning indictment on our coaches and the plate of kaka they served up last week, I dont what else is. It wasnt just the great defensive game plan that KC cooked up but it was also the adjustments that Cinci made on offense to get back in the game. Then it was back to KC to make further adjustments on D to shut down the Bengals again. A total chess match between two great coaching staffs. Meanwhile we get the "connect 4 quality" coaching staff effort from our coaches last Sunday with little planning or strategy and no deviation or adjustments from the plan. 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammer8732 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) Doesn’t hurt to have the refs in your back pocket. How do we do that? It all started on the 3rd & 9 “do over”… Feel bad for Cincy. Glad our season didn’t end like that. Edited January 30, 2023 by Jammer8732 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Mrbojanglezs said: What's worse the drought or having an elite QB but average coaching and falling short every year The drought and it ain't close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) Can you imagine the Bills holding either of those offenses to below 24 points in a playoff game? Yet both of those defenses were able to pull that off despite being lower ranked than us throughout the entire regular season. I'm more and more convinced we are being held back by coaching. What other conclusion can you make? Edited January 30, 2023 by HappyDays 3 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 35 minutes ago, Einstein said: Yet there defense is never elite during the season. Would you rather have an elite regular season defense or elite playoff defense? 11th overall total defense in the NFL this season so not sure what you're talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: Can you imagine the Bills holding either of those offenses to below 24 points in a playoff game? Yet both of those defenses were able to pull that off despite being lower ranked than us throughout the entire regular season. I'm more and more convinced we are being held back by coaching. What other conclusion can you make? And sadly I think coaching and management will be the one thing that doesn't change this offseason. Look for more of the same next year while our division opponents keep gaining ground 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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