hellofellowbillsfans Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Maybe more to come? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Super Bowl! (Kidding) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Oh...so this guy was the one in charge of the no-press 20 yard CB cushions offered the Bengals all game long?? 1 4 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellofellowbillsfans Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 If anything I feel like this is an indication that Frazier might be sticking around after all 1 2 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) Tough break. Guy had 2 major injuries at his position (3 with Poyer). Others in and out of the lineup. Not to say changes aren’t needed on that side of the ball, but interesting he’s the first domino to fall. Edited January 26, 2023 by Blank Stare 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 I could see Eric Washington but I think players like him. 2 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Oh...so this guy was the one in charge of the no-press 20 yard CB cushions offered the Bengals all game long?? Actually it was probably the worst game I’ve seen Poyer play. He was lost. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWK Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Eric Washington should go, but he's McDermott's friend so he won't. 1 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadBills Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BillsFanInRaleigh said: If anything I feel like this is an indication that Frazier might be sticking around after all Doubt it. His contract is up Edited January 26, 2023 by BigBadBills 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Just now, MWK said: Eric Washington should go, but he's McDermott's friend so he won't. Could very well be our next DC. 1 5 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Seems like an odd choice. Given the injuries at the position I thought safeties were one of the few positional groups that didn't let us down over the course of the season or in the Bengals game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWK Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Just now, Bangarang said: Could very well be our next DC. Giving the DC job to a guy who can't even coach his position group seems like a terrible idea. But he's a McDermott friend from Carolina so it would be on brand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 For the love of god start over completely on defense or we are just wasting dressings of Josh’s prime 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBills_88 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Hopefully the dominoes are starting to fall on the defensive side of the coaching staff. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I could see Eric Washington but I think players like him. Actually it was probably the worst game I’ve seen Poyer play. He was lost. Also fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, BillsFanInRaleigh said: Maybe more to come? Well...I guess it's a start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 If this isn't just the beginning then this fella is a pathetic sacrificial lamb. If Frazier is offered another contract then my confidence in this team getting to the promised land goes way way down. 4 5 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Every safety they put in this year didn't seem ready to go. Whether it was Johnson, Hamlin, or Cam Lewis, none of them preformed even good enough. His work with Siren Neal as a CB seems to be terrible too. 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoofHearted Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Seems like an odd choice. Given the injuries at the position I thought safeties were one of the few positional groups that didn't let us down over the course of the season or in the Bengals game. Multiple coverage busts from the Safety position against the Bengals in addition to the very obvious lack of scheme knowledge that our depth safeties possessed cost our defense huge this year. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 23 minutes ago, BillsFanInRaleigh said: If anything I feel like this is an indication that Frazier might be sticking around after all I think Frazier doesn’t have a contract, so he doesn’t need fired. Maybe they are clearing out his guys that are still under contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 29 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Oh...so this guy was the one in charge of the no-press 20 yard CB cushions offered the Bengals all game long?? Awesome game plan. Let's back up and watch the Cincinnati receivers catch the ball. Then on a slippery field, we will try to tackle dudes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 I would think the defensive line coach would get it first since the Dline wasn’t just bad it was how are these guys in the league bad. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 14 minutes ago, HoofHearted said: Multiple coverage busts from the Safety position against the Bengals in addition to the very obvious lack of scheme knowledge that our depth safeties possessed cost our defense huge this year. I'm not an X's and O's guy - the only obvious bust I saw was on the opening Chase TD. What else did the safeties mess up that game ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Just now, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: I'm not an X's and O's guy - the only obvious bust I saw was on the opening Chase TD. What else did the safeties mess up that game ? The Hurst TD they jumped the screen. Should’ve stood out as well. Plus missed tackles. It was a bad game from Poyer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoofHearted Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 minute ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: I'm not an X's and O's guy - the only obvious bust I saw was on the opening Chase TD. What else did the safeties mess up that game ? The other obvious one was the second touchdown to Hurst when Poyer drove the fast screen to Chase and Hurst ran the stalk and go on him. There were multiple instances of us carrying a player too far vertically and allowing the easy catch and run underneath, or us not switching off routes in a timely manner in our Quarters looks. It was a bad day at the office all around. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 35 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Seems like an odd choice. Given the injuries at the position I thought safeties were one of the few positional groups that didn't let us down over the course of the season or in the Bengals game. If he was responsible for claiming that Jaquan Johnson was a capable NFL backup safety then I could see the reasoning. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: I'm not an X's and O's guy - the only obvious bust I saw was on the opening Chase TD. What else did the safeties mess up that game ? Hayden Hurst TD where 3 players including Poyer ran down to the fake Chase screen which left Hurst all alone for an easy TD with Poyer trying to get back in time but failing badly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Firing the Safeties coach! That should resolve all the management and coaching deficiencies in the defense, the offensive line, and a poor draft record. Can the locker room attendants and laundry crew be far behind? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: I'm not an X's and O's guy - the only obvious bust I saw was on the opening Chase TD. What else did the safeties mess up that game ? Chase TD looks like Marlowe is at fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Just now, All_Pro_Bills said: Firing the Safeties coach! That should resolve all the management and coaching deficiencies in the defense, the offensive line, and a poor draft record. Can the locker room attendants and laundry crew be far behind? It is one of McDermotts boys though. So maybe this is something to show no one is safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Ladies an gentlemen allow me to show you an example of the term “fall guy” 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubie54 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Sure, fire the safeties coach when the guys in charge of the overall scheme are still around. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Firing this poor guy after that debacle is your answer McDermott? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 My only hope is they only have to technically fire the guys with contracts and they just can not bring back Fraizer. Everyone there needs to be gone, just hopefully this is the removal of the people that still had contracts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) My best guess based on no actual knowledge is that Steve Wilks is coming with Al Holcomb. I would be good with that. Yeah it's more Carolina guys, but they are far from yes men and they know what McDermott wants. Holcomb had a lot to do with the development of Jeremy Chinn as well as Luke Kuechly. Edited January 26, 2023 by MrEpsYtown 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 46 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Seems like an odd choice. Given the injuries at the position I thought safeties were one of the few positional groups that didn't let us down over the course of the season or in the Bengals game. Coverage was very odd this year. We played a lot more man. But we didn't play Elam much. It made some sense when Johnson and Hamlin were running the backfield. They were just not an NFL pairing. But it kept happening even when it was Poyer-Hamlin with Tre and Jackson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Oh, Bills. * I thought SDS had rid the board of certain moderators. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: My best guess based on no actual knowledge is that Steve Wilks is coming with Al Holcomb. I would be good with that. Yeah it's more Carolina guys, but they are far from yes men and they know what McDermott wants. Holcomb had a lot to do with the development of Jeremy Chinn as well as Luke Kuechly. I’d be all for that absolutely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 16 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: It is one of McDermotts boys though. So maybe this is something to show no one is safe. teams are interviewing for coordinator positions right now. Some good ones out there so if Frazier and Dorsey and still here in next couple of days, they're probably staying 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 15 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: My best guess based on no actual knowledge is that Steve Wilks is coming with Al Holcomb. I would be good with that. Yeah it's more Carolina guys, but they are far from yes men and they know what McDermott wants. Holcomb had a lot to do with the development of Jeremy Chinn as well as Luke Kuechly. This would be a nice REALISTIC development (No, Vic Fangio isn't coming here to be a DC). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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