Coach Tuesday Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 I have always strongly suspected that Brandon Beane has several drawers full of perfectly-folded white socks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 15 hours ago, DCbillsfan said: Not getting a good feeling about the off season. Sounds a lot like we're gonna run it back and hope for better results. Good maybe that's what it'll take for the owners to fire the guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Lashing out that Bengals had to suck to draft Burrow and Chase is not a good look. Get more aggressive with your draft picks then. You did it for Josh. You went after Diggs. Sitting back and drafting JAG’s ain’t gonna get you over the top. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Disappointing. Perhaps he didn’t think he’d have to give this press conference this early. But he should have prepared more. Beane has been very telling in the past on these pressers and we’ve referenced them throughout the ensuing seasons. This seemed completely off the cuff. The only part I took from it is if we don’t lose Dorsey to a HC job (unlikely imo), then he’ll be back for a 2nd season. His comments about Hines were strange and I think he’s hiding something there. It’s unlikely Singletary will accept our offer an Cook isn’t an every down back. I think everybody’s bewildered at OBD.. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 I don’t know what more people want Beane to say. They’ve made high dollar commitments to several on the team at this point, including Josh who is no longer on the rookie deal, and there’s a lot of dead money tied to those guys. They need certain guys to step up more, and the same with the marginal FAs and rookies they add this offseason. And he doesn’t seem to have an issue with the coaching staff, considering all the adversity they had to deal with this season while finishing 13-3, and the team just laying an egg at a bad time against another talented team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 8 hours ago, Einstein said: Thats also the impression I have at this point. Very depressing press conference. He knows we are not good enough and he also knows we don’t have the resources to fix it. Yep. I felt the same way during that press conference. This is the lowest and least optimistic I have felt during the Beane regime. It feels like we are in a situation where we are kind of stuck right now. We won't totally suck but I don't think we are in a position to properly re-tool this thing to a true contender. Very depressing and deflating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 11 hours ago, Buffalo Ballin said: You want him to say what we're truly thinking? Beane: "Hey yo we suck ass, bruh. We're terrible, bruh. Our defense is ass. Our offense is Josh Allen going HAM, bruh. That's all we have. Bengals ate our faces off. I effed up with our defensive draft selections. Bit me all up in my ass, bruh. I don't draft wide receivers because Josh Allen makes Joe Blow from the Streets look good so there was no need to draft any receiver. So please pray for me. I mean, pray for us." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 9 hours ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: Not embarrassing to me. Your info is wrong. I mean how many sources do you want...... https://www.lockportjournal.com/sports/bills-all-pro-micah-hyde-returns-to-practice-four-months-after-neck-surgery/article_b77fce57-c7b6-5ebe-8643-860c7fc72475.html https://buffalowdown.com/2022/01/14/buffalo-bills-jordan-poyer-micah-hyde-all-pro/ https://www.buffalobills.com/video/jordan-poyer-and-micah-hyde-earn-all-pro-honors https://billswire.usatoday.com/2022/01/14/buffalo-bills-micah-hyde-second-team-all-pro/ Bro, that's 2ND TEAM meaning he was a RUNNER UP... this is like saying Pro Bowl alternates are pro bowlers or MVP Runner Ups are MVPs 🤣 8 hours ago, FireChans said: Your link even says he was AP-2 in 17 and 21. That means 2nd team, as in runner up lmao... they put the badges on the top for pro bowl and all pro, hence why he doesn't have one. This would be like claiming pro bowl alternates are pro bowlers or mvp runner ups are MVPs lmao 8 hours ago, RocCityRoller said: Umm Hyde is 2nd team All Pro 2x (2017, 2021) and PB 1x (2017) 2nd team = runner up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said: Bro, that's 2ND TEAM meaning he was a RUNNER UP... this is like saying Pro Bowl alternates are pro bowlers or MVP Runner Ups are MVPs 🤣 That means 2nd team, as in runner up lmao... they put the badges on the top for pro bowl and all pro, hence why he doesn't have one. This would be like claiming pro bowl alternates are pro bowlers or mvp runner ups are MVPs lmao 2nd team = runner up... Second team all pro is still an all pro distinction. Otherwise it wouldn't be called anything. They are more right than you are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, arcane said: Second team all pro is still an all pro distinction. Otherwise it wouldn't be called anything. They are more right than you are. It's not All Pro distinction, which is why they don't receive the badge for it on the link provided, and it is NOT included in the official NFL Record and Fact Book, only first team is. It is a runner up award from the press, not an official distinction. Google it. Quote Who makes the All-Pro team? While making the Pro Bowl is considered an honor, making the NFL’s All-Pro teams are more prestigious. Unlike the Pro Bowl, which fans count for one-third of the vote and is often a popularity contest, members of the media select the All-Pro teams. In 2020, those media organizations include the Associated Press (AP), Pro Football Writers of America (PFWA), and Sporting News (SN). Any player selected to the first-team of any of the teams is considered an “All-Pro” and included in the NFL Record and Fact Book. https://www.sportscasting.com/what-is-the-difference-between-being-an-nfl-all-pro-and-pro-bowler/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 9 hours ago, HappyDays said: The difference is in years past he has openly admitted the team's problems. After the Houston playoff loss he said we didn't have enough weapons around Josh. Two years ago he called out the TE room. Last year he said we didn't do a good enough job getting to the opposing QB. This year he didn't point out anything that needs to improve. Just said the current players went through some stuff and that was that. This team needs some major changes to get to championship level and I'm not sure Beane has a plan of how to get there. We are stuck in the 2nd class of the NFL if he can't figure it out. Looks like a disconnect between the FO and Sean imo and/or Beane is not willing to call Sean out. His scheme and philosophies on Offense and Defense will dictate the type (skillset) of players the FO will look for. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckets Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 I'm jumping on the Bean has to go bus. Says the coaching is fine, is throwing the players under the bus and blames the cap for not being able to bring in "blue chip" players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Buckets said: I'm jumping on the Bean has to go bus. Says the coaching is fine, is throwing the players under the bus and blames the cap for not being able to bring in "blue chip" players. Bingo! Until this organization realizes that the coaching staff needs to be fixed, they’re going absolutely nowhere. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 18 hours ago, Negan said: Go draft another pass rushing defensive player that can't rush the passer. This guy seems lost What galls me is that fact that we have a DEFENSIVE HC and this shouldn't be an issue.... and yet... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent Hulka Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: I have always strongly suspected that Brandon Beane has several drawers full of perfectly-folded white socks. I want to love this metaphor (possibly for future use), but at the risk of seeming slow on the uptake, could you expound? Do you mean, too vanilla, unimaginative, anal retentive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Sargent Hulka said: I want to love this metaphor (possibly for future use), but at the risk of seeming slow on the uptake, could you expound? Do you mean, too vanilla, unimaginative, anal retentive? Basic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent Hulka Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Conflict of interest is an omnipresent risk when a GM and HC come as a package, and that is precisely what you have with Beane and McDermott. It corrupts autonomy, objectivity and accountability. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) I was a McDermott fan until seeing a much worse version of 13 seconds... we were totally unprepared and poor coaching really hurt us badly. It's not an overreaction when #BillsMafia were all wondering why in the hell we didn't do JACK on defense to adjust and to bring more blitzes since it was obvious our front 4 were not getting ANYTHING done. and Dorsey's play calling looked foolish and amateurish. Edited January 25, 2023 by EasternOHBillsFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Beane got Allen and Diggs and has been living off of that for years now. Really, his drafts have been mediocre at best, especially in high rounds. He needs to get the job done this draft. Chiefs and Bengals are clearly better teams, IMO. that puts us at #3 in the AFC. Ravens with a healthy Lamar (he isn't going anywhere) will be dangerous and win a lot of games. Chargers could get their act together and be dangerous as well. Even our division is tough. Dolphins have a crazy offense when Tua is healthy. Jets are a great defense. Beane has work to do. We'll see, but I'm disappointed in his drafting the past 2 seasons. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5ths the charm Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Beane is a quality excuse maker. I get it. But in reality, development time is over. Upgrade S. Brown, D Jackson, I Mckenzie, Epenesa, Hart (can't believe he is even on the roster), Keenum, have the db's and Oline. It's not about he's a good guy...it's about championships. Think Belichick wants friends or titles, how did that work for them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: I was a McDermott fan until seeing a much worse version of 13 seconds... we were totally unprepared and poor coaching really hurt us badly. It's not an overreaction when #BillsMafia were all wondering why in the hell we didn't do JACK on defense to adjust and to bring more blitzes since it was obvious our front 4 were not getting ANYTHING done. and Dorsey's play calling looked foolish and amateurish. They tried blitzing. Joe Burrow hits the hot route before the blitz gets there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said: Beane got Allen and Diggs and has been living off of that for years now. Really, his drafts have been mediocre at best, especially in high rounds. He needs to get the job done this draft. Chiefs and Bengals are clearly better teams, IMO. that puts us at #3 in the AFC. Ravens with a healthy Lamar (he isn't going anywhere) will be dangerous and win a lot of games. Chargers could get their act together and be dangerous as well. Even our division is tough. Dolphins have a crazy offense when Tua is healthy. Jets are a great defense. Beane has work to do. We'll see, but I'm disappointed in his drafting the past 2 seasons. Beane deserves an opportunity to get this pointed in the right direction. But for that to happen he has to be a different GM. Fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 I thought the Beane presser had some elements of mea culpa and a small dose of accountability but in the end who cares. I dont think they are going to fire either of the coordinators and McD is a sacred cow that will not be touched or even criticized for his actions. Many of the questions yesterday were far too respectful from the media. It might have been nice for someone (Jerry Sullivan .........cough.........cough) to be there to be a Sht disturber. I dont think Beane felt enough heat for what happened and it certainly wont be coming from the Pegulas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Just now, Livinginthepast said: I thought the Beane presser had some elements of mea culpa and a small dose of accountability but in the end who cares. I dont think they are going to fire either of the coordinators and McD is a sacred cow that will not be touched or even criticized for his actions. Many of the questions yesterday were far too respectful from the media. It might have been nice for someone (Jerry Sullivan .........cough.........cough) to be there to be a Sht disturber. I dont think Beane felt enough heat for what happened and it certainly wont be coming from the Pegulas. The only heat Beane seems to be feeling is from the "social media film critics" who have him all irked. He sounded similar to Kim Pegula when she told the BN that the fans aren't privy to all of what goes on behind the scenes when it comes to the Sabres and that Botterill wasn't going anywhere. They fired Botterill a few weeks later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: They tried blitzing. Joe Burrow hits the hot route before the blitz gets there. They weren't prepared... the Bengals were though... they blitzed well and did their homework. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Disappointing. Perhaps he didn’t think he’d have to give this press conference this early. But he should have prepared more. Beane has been very telling in the past on these pressers and we’ve referenced them throughout the ensuing seasons. This seemed completely off the cuff. The only part I took from it is if we don’t lose Dorsey to a HC job (unlikely imo), then he’ll be back for a 2nd season. His comments about Hines were strange and I think he’s hiding something there. It’s unlikely Singletary will accept our offer an Cook isn’t an every down back. I think everybody’s bewildered at OBD.. Again. Part of why I think the Front Office and coaches weren’t on the same page. Which by the way is perfectly normal. However, when everyone is feeling the pressure of expectations and the failure of 13 seconds that’s exacerbated. Which is why if your reaction to 13 seconds was fire everyone - you knew there was no recovering from this. It’s a catastrophic loss with catastrophic ramifications you don’t recover from. I’ve seen plenty of them as a Buffalo fan. Coupled with Sunday, these playoff exits almost completely destroy the “aura” we had as league darlings and perennial SB favorites. That’s going to impact free agents. If the Bills were say - The Dolphins - if the Dolphins just went thru this and we were chasing them I’m pretty sure we’d be saying “they’re done. Window closed.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Donuts and Doritos said: I wish one of the reporters had pointed out Gabe Davis had a 51.6% catch percentage in the regular season which isn't a 1 off but an entire season trend & asked him is that good enough & couldn't you do better at WR2. Beane kept making it sound like everything's fine - not to over react to 1 game. But that was a season long problem. Really bothers me that he never conceded that anything needed to be changed, & made it sound like everything was fine they just had 1 bad day at the wrong time. It was not an honest evaluation of the team & doesn't bode well for next season. He was way more defensive than usual. Agree 100%. Joe Marino on one of his YouTube videos talked about Beane's previous end of season press conferences. He was anticipating Beane's words. He stated Beane previously said the last game you lose really exposes your teams weaknesses. Something to that effect. Fast forward to Beane's presser and he's done a 180% turn. The red flags are waving. I think this organization is on the downfall. Not a free fall but a slow regression. This team is unlikely to make a Super Bowl run next year. Sure it's a bold prediction and probably too early to say that. We fans have to hope for no major injuries which is not likely. Hope players step up because significant moves aren't in the future. The Bills have gone from Super favorites to playoff contenders in one year. Edited January 25, 2023 by newcam2012 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent Hulka Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 No playing well...https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bills-gm-brandon-beane-takes-shot-at-bengals-dont-want-to-have-to-suck-bad-enough-to-have-to-get-jamarr-chase-234537689.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 This is the first time it feels like Beane and McDermott aren’t on the same page anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 hour ago, newcam2012 said: Agree 100%. Joe Marino on one of his YouTube videos talked about Beane's previous end of season press conferences. He was anticipating Beane's words. He stated Beane previously said the last game you lose really exposes your teams weaknesses. Something to that effect. Fast forward to Beane's presser and he's done a 180% turn. The red flags are waving. I think this organization is on the downfall. Not a free fall but a slow regression. This team is unlikely to make a Super Bowl run next year. Sure it's a bold prediction and probably too early to say that. We fans have to hope for no major injuries which is not likely. Hope players step up because significant moves aren't in the future. The Bills have gone from Super favorites to playoff contenders in one year. Yeah interesting that yesterday Beane said you can't overreact to the last game, you have to look at season trends (which I don't disagree with). But last year he used the last game to make Gabe the #2 WR, despite the fact that his catch % last season (2021) was 55.6%. His doing an impression of the Titanic Captain, everything's fine most of the voyage has gone great, is a bit jarringly obtuse. (Not that we're the Titanic, more Gilligan's SS Minnow on a 3 hr never ending tour that doesn't reach it's championship destination) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 4 hours ago, ArtVandalay said: Bro, that's 2ND TEAM meaning he was a RUNNER UP... this is like saying Pro Bowl alternates are pro bowlers or MVP Runner Ups are MVPs 🤣 That means 2nd team, as in runner up lmao... they put the badges on the top for pro bowl and all pro, hence why he doesn't have one. This would be like claiming pro bowl alternates are pro bowlers or mvp runner ups are MVPs lmao 2nd team = runner up... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_All-Pro_Team incorrect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) 51 minutes ago, FireChans said: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_All-Pro_Team incorrect. Lmao wikipedia. Dude i already provided links to another poster, Google it. https://www.sportscasting.com/what-is-the-difference-between-being-an-nfl-all-pro-and-pro-bowler/ Quote Who makes the All-Pro team? While making the Pro Bowl is considered an honor, making the NFL’s All-Pro teams are more prestigious. Unlike the Pro Bowl, which fans count for one-third of the vote and is often a popularity contest, members of the media select the All-Pro teams. In 2020, those media organizations include the Associated Press (AP), Pro Football Writers of America (PFWA), and Sporting News (SN). Any player selected to the first-team of any of the teams is considered an “All-Pro” and included in the NFL Record and Fact Book. "First team" are the only "All Pros"... anything else is just a media runner up that never gets recorded in NFL History/Fact Book. FURTHERMORE, here is a link to the 2022 NFL Record and Fact Book (for the 2021 season), which Hyde is quite clearly not an All-Pro because he wasn't, 2nd team is nothing more than a runner up recognition and nothing more https://operations.nfl.com/updates/the-game/2022-nfl-record-and-fact-book/ Edited January 25, 2023 by ArtVandalay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 I understand your frustration with what he’s saying, but look at the reality, there’s virtually no cap room, you are picking, 28th (?) and you have glaring holes. What are you going to say? “All the free agents I signed were a bust, so they are taking up cap space and the draft hasn’t looked much better, I’m pretty much running a top 5 QB out there with bottom 1/3 talent around him and hoping for the best.”? Let’s get real, he’s got to cling to the fact they had 13 wins, and he has built in excuses, new OC, Miller got hurt, Hyde got hurt, White wasn’t quite himself, Hamlin scare, snow storms, didn’t catch the groove at the right time. He’s basically going to be Teflon this year, wish all you want, he’s not going anywhere, nor is the team. Ironically, the first thing he did was get rid of all of the big contracts Whaley had signed with under performers and suffered a year of dead cap hits, only to be right back to it 3 years later. Beane is MMMASSSSSSSIVLY over rated, take Allen out and watch this team fold like origami. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, DCofNC said: I understand your frustration with what he’s saying, but look at the reality, there’s virtually no cap room, you are picking, 28th (?) and you have glaring holes. What are you going to say? “All the free agents I signed were a bust, so they are taking up cap space and the draft hasn’t looked much better, I’m pretty much running a top 5 QB out there with bottom 1/3 talent around him and hoping for the best.”? Let’s get real, he’s got to cling to the fact they had 13 wins, and he has built in excuses, new OC, Miller got hurt, Hyde got hurt, White wasn’t quite himself, Hamlin scare, snow storms, didn’t catch the groove at the right time. He’s basically going to be Teflon this year, wish all you want, he’s not going anywhere, nor is the team. Ironically, the first thing he did was get rid of all of the big contracts Whaley had signed with under performers and suffered a year of dead cap hits, only to be right back to it 3 years later. Beane is MMMASSSSSSSIVLY over rated, take Allen out and watch this team fold like origami. “It starts with me, I need to do a better job finding players the coaches can work with and who can make an immediate impact helping us win games. And I need to do a top-down review of my scouting and pro personnel staff to make sure we’ve got the best people and processes, because we’ve fallen short. And I need to be better at making sure that the coaches and scouts are on the exact same page about what kinds of players we need, because those lines of communication haven’t worked as well as they should. And I expect to make changes in all of those areas and to be held accountable if I don’t succeed in doing so.” IT’S NOT THAT HARD TO DO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 5 hours ago, ArtVandalay said: Bro, that's 2ND TEAM meaning he was a RUNNER UP... this is like saying Pro Bowl alternates are pro bowlers or MVP Runner Ups are MVPs 🤣 That means 2nd team, as in runner up lmao... they put the badges on the top for pro bowl and all pro, hence why he doesn't have one. Nope, that's not what it means and all you did was provide more wrong information and opinions per usual. He's a x2 All-Pro, it is mentioned everywhere that he's an All-Pro and from the looks of it everyone here disagrees with you also. Instead of owning up to the bad information you provided, like a man would, you doubled down on it. But I wouldn't expect any different you. You come on here and rip the team and other posters who don't agree with you, but can't own up to a mistake you made, good job. Yeah, it's mentioned everywhere you look that he was a All-Pro alternate.😂 I've never heard that before in the 45 years I've watched football. Lol, now I've heard of everything. Art Vandalay making up his own reality. 😂🤣😂🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 I mean HOLY HELL lamenting the fact that you’re up against the cap and can’t afford a premium receiver when you just blew a second round pick on a pass-catching running back… THIS GUY. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 32 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: Nope, that's not what it means and all you did was provide more wrong information and opinions per usual. He's a x2 All-Pro, it is mentioned everywhere that he's an All-Pro and from the looks of it everyone here disagrees with you also. Instead of owning up to the bad information you provided, like a man would, you doubled down on it. But I wouldn't expect any different you. You come on here and rip the team and other posters who don't agree with you, but can't own up to a mistake you made, good job. Yeah, it's mentioned everywhere you look that he was a All-Pro alternate.😂 I've never heard that before in the 45 years I've watched football. Lol, now I've heard of everything. Art Vandalay making up his own reality. 😂🤣😂🤣 Lmao you can't be serious, I've provided the information several times, your density and stubbornness to acknowledge basic facts is incredible. https://www.sportscasting.com/what-is-the-difference-between-being-an-nfl-all-pro-and-pro-bowler/ Quote While making the Pro Bowl is considered an honor, making the NFL’s All-Pro teams are more prestigious. Unlike the Pro Bowl, which fans count for one-third of the vote and is often a popularity contest, members of the media select the All-Pro teams. In 2020, those media organizations include the Associated Press (AP), Pro Football Writers of America (PFWA), and Sporting News (SN). Any player selected to the first-team of any of the teams is considered an “All-Pro” and included in the NFL Record and Fact Book. "First team" are the only "All Pros"... anything else is just a media runner up that never gets recorded in NFL History/Fact Book. FURTHERMORE, here is a link to the 2022 NFL Record and Fact Book (for the 2021 season), which Hyde is quite clearly not an All-Pro because he wasn't, 2nd team is nothing more than a runner up recognition and nothing more https://operations.nfl.com/updates/the-game/2022-nfl-record-and-fact-book/ Literally putting everything on a platter here for you including the OFFICIAL NFL RECORD AND FACT BOOK for the season showing you such. "2nd team" is nothing more than a runner up recognition, it means nothing. It is not "All Pro". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 44 minutes ago, DCofNC said: I understand your frustration with what he’s saying, but look at the reality, there’s virtually no cap room, you are picking, 28th (?) and you have glaring holes. What are you going to say? “All the free agents I signed were a bust, so they are taking up cap space and the draft hasn’t looked much better, I’m pretty much running a top 5 QB out there with bottom 1/3 talent around him and hoping for the best.”? Let’s get real, he’s got to cling to the fact they had 13 wins, and he has built in excuses, new OC, Miller got hurt, Hyde got hurt, White wasn’t quite himself, Hamlin scare, snow storms, didn’t catch the groove at the right time. He’s basically going to be Teflon this year, wish all you want, he’s not going anywhere, nor is the team. Ironically, the first thing he did was get rid of all of the big contracts Whaley had signed with under performers and suffered a year of dead cap hits, only to be right back to it 3 years later. Beane is MMMASSSSSSSIVLY over rated, take Allen out and watch this team fold like origami. Wow! That is the blunt truth at its best. However, Beane does deserve credit too. He inheriented a mess from Whaley. He tore down an inadequate team and built it into a consistent playoff team. We fans were estastic with the turnaround, winning games, making the playoffs, and having a franchise QB. However, the fans and teams expectations have changed. A credit to the organization's success. The Bills were in everyone's top 3 teams in the NFL going into this year. Overwhelming favorites to win the Super Bowl. Beans is now backed himself into a corner with very little ammunition to retool the team. Paying the price his failed DL pick ups. His failure to adequately solidify an offensive line. The lack of weapons the teams has. Lastly, a coaching staff that has clearly become inferior to others especially in the playoffs. You can see the difference between Coach McD presser and Beane. Vastly and starkly not on the same page. Beane is a very intelligent guy. He can clearly see the writing on the wall. He knows the Bills team is likely trending downward. Of course he can't admit that. Instead, he had to give excuses and hope players develop and step up. I can see a total rehaul of the Bills organization within the next couple of years. Especially, if the team doesn't meet expectations. We fans should probably forget about making that Super Bowl appearance next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Depressing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) I was listening to FOX Sports radio about 20 minutes ago. They had Donte Whitner on. The host played a clip from Beane’s press conference. The part where Beane talked about Burrow being on a rookie deal and not wanting to suck bad enough to get a Jamar Chase…blah, blah, blah. The host then asked what he thought of that and Whitner said it sounded to him like a GM that is not willing to be held accountable for his own roster. Whitner then went down the list of some players the 49ers have and how the were acquired. I agree with Whitner. I’m starting to lose faith in Beane running the show. Edited January 25, 2023 by Beast 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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