Updated Beasley signing to practice squad

[Big Turk]

1 minute ago, KDIGGZ said:

Just looking at the roster, if Beasley really does come back then does John Brown stay on the practice squad or is Khalil a healthy scratch? I think that would also signal Crowder being done here 

 

I think it's a sign coaching staff doesn't want to head into the playoffs with Crowder having no chemistry with Allen due to very limited reps and a long time with none. Beasley gives him someone he has thrown the ball to a lot the last few years.

[The Frankish Reich]

"I know a guy who knows him" and "I sat next to him on a flight to Buffalo" is actually pretty good intel. I'm certainly not disparaging it.

Then again, there was that guy who sat next to Mitch Morse's dad last year and was told he's definitely retiring ...

Edited December 13, 2022 by The Frankish Reich

[SectionC3]

2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Beasley was washed LAST season.   His burst was gone.    

 

But with Lil' Dummy again snuffing out multiple drives with 3rd down drops.........they should be desperate for a guy who has great chemistry with Allen but also the hands to catch the not only the routine pass but the ones thrown off target and under duress like Beasley often did.  

 

I haven't seen the game replay yet but being their in person...........the reaction of the players when Dummy dropped that second 3rd down pass and they had to settle for the FG...........it was heated.    Rarely see Allen react that frustrated and Davis and Diggs were both flailing their arms because they were open...........but McKenzie was clearly the right read because he was open and it was the shortest and highest % throw.  

 

Then McKenzie gets to the sideline and appears to be explaining why he dropped the ball.   Like there was some valid excuse for it. 

 

Unfortunately,  the first thing that goes with WR is often the hand/eye coordination not the speed.    So color me unsurprised that Smoke got open deep yesterday but couldn't catch the ball (and was credited with a drop).    

 

  

I know what my reaction to that drop was in the stadium.  It was not good.  

 

The Brown play I could live with.  It was contested.  Knox I can kind of live with late in the game because he had CJ Moseley bearing down on him and interfering with his line of sight.  The McKenzie drops, however, are too much.  Enough is enough.  We are desperate for a receiver who can act as an extension of the running game and help us get the occasional third and short.  If Bease's return happens, it's an excellent move.  

[HurlyBurly51]

Someone, anyone, needs to take over for Lil' Dummy and relegate him to gadget plays.

[3rdnlng]

57 minutes ago, billsfanfrom83 said:

I had to go through hell to get my tickets how about you

Mine got ghosted. 

[SectionC3]

4 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

Just looking at the roster, if Beasley really does come back then does John Brown stay on the practice squad or is Khalil a healthy scratch? I think that would also signal Crowder being done here 

Adios to likely KeeSean Johnson.  Then we see what happens with Miami.  My guess is that Brown would not be elevated this week, and then it would be a week-by-week thing thereafter. 

 

[Dr.Sack]

Cole played well last season when he wasn’t injured. How healthy is he?

[3rdnlng]

1 hour ago, BarleyNY said:

I don’t know how much a 33 year old SWR whose only real contribution at this point would be finding the holes in zone coverage is going to help us. But then again, he always had good hands. It’s depressing that he could reasonably be an upgrade to our WR corps. 

The slot receiver gets a lot of slants and short outs. Opponents may not be respecting #6 like they would Beasley. That affects the positioning of the DB's and the other receivers might not be getting quite the room that Beasley would give them. Holes in zone coverage is what 3rd and 7 likes.

[The Frankish Reich]

6 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

The slot receiver gets a lot of slants and short outs. Opponents may not be respecting #6 like they would Beasley. That affects the positioning of the DB's and the other receivers might not be getting quite the room that Beasley would give them. Holes in zone coverage is what 3rd and 7 likes.

Agreed. I think he makes the team better at the margin. He had a fantastic season in 2020, and was still generally effective last year. He probably doesn't have a lot left in the tank, but I'd be surprised if he's fallen off a cliff by simply sitting around most of the time (avoiding hits, etc.) and spending a very little amount of time with Tommy B. in Tampa. I thought he'd burned bridges here, but when you're trying to win a title a lot is forgiven.

[DrDawkinstein]

26 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

Just looking at the roster, if Beasley really does come back then does John Brown stay on the practice squad or is Khalil a healthy scratch? I think that would also signal Crowder being done here 

 

23 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

I think it's a sign coaching staff doesn't want to head into the playoffs with Crowder having no chemistry with Allen due to very limited reps and a long time with none. Beasley gives him someone he has thrown the ball to a lot the last few years.

 

I didnt realize Crowder had a chance of returning this year. When would he be expected back?

 

From a list of:

Crowder

Brown

Beasley

McKenzie

 

I'm taking Crowder, easily, every time.

[BADOLBILZ]

8 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

I know what my reaction to that drop was in the stadium.  It was not good.  

 

The Brown play I could live with.  It was contested.  Knox I can kind of live with late in the game because he had CJ Moseley bearing down on him and interfering with his line of sight.  The McKenzie drops, however, are too much.  Enough is enough.  We are desperate for a receiver who can act as an extension of the running game and help us get the occasional third and short.  If Bease's return happens, it's an excellent move.  

 

 

I look at it this way.........the hopes of this offense looking like the surgical 2020 passing offense or even the one we saw late in the divisional round game against KC when Allen and Davis went off against that banged up Chiefs secondary are unrealistic given the lack of matchup winning talent on offense.

 

But they can still be a team that can score 30+ points against a good defense by using Allen running the ball to break down otherwise well played defense 6-10 times a game to extend drives and convert in the red zone.    

 

But having someone who can convert 3rd downs to keep the chains moving from the slot is imperative when playing this style of offense.  

 

Personally,  I think Beasley is probably washed but I'm open to a practice squad level flyer.    I doubt Crowder offers much when he comes back because he's hardly played in this offense or with Allen.         

[KDIGGZ]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

 

I didnt realize Crowder had a chance of returning this year. When would he be expected back?

 

From a list of:

Crowder

Brown

Beasley

McKenzie

 

I'm taking Crowder, easily, every time.

Crowder has been running along the sidelines and working with trainers at practice. Probably still waiting for the all clear for contact which as we saw with Tre White could be anytime between now and next Thanksgiving

[Riverboat Ritchie]

He had one heck of an ability to find the open zone. 

[Big Blitz]

Horrible indictment of McKenzie. 
 

Who didn’t see this coming.
 

Allen got all he could from him - he’s a great gadget guy and that’s it.  Slot WR for Allen should have 60 catches by now.  

Diggs

Davis 

Crowder

Beasely 

Brown 

Shakir 

McKenzie

Knox 

 

That works.   Get the full band back together. 

[NoHuddleKelly12]

I mean, at this point it’s an all hands on deck to pad our WR depth for the stretch run, and we could def do worse than a guy who Josh often trusted to move the sticks on critical 3rd downs…mind you we won’t be getting any YAC from him, but what good is that anyway if the catch isn’t made first, right McKenzie? 

[Big Blitz]

You mean this tweet didn’t instill confidence in the staff that he’s a number 3 option in this offense?

 

 

 

[todd]

He’s a clown, but was always a good bill and a great player when healthy. If he hasn’t lost too much, I’d love him back. 
 

a clown, but OUR clown.

[SectionC3]

27 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

I look at it this way.........the hopes of this offense looking like the surgical 2020 passing offense or even the one we saw late in the divisional round game against KC when Allen and Davis went off against that banged up Chiefs secondary are unrealistic given the lack of matchup winning talent on offense.

 

But they can still be a team that can score 30+ points against a good defense by using Allen running the ball to break down otherwise well played defense 6-10 times a game to extend drives and convert in the red zone.    

 

But having someone who can convert 3rd downs to keep the chains moving from the slot is imperative when playing this style of offense.  

 

Personally,  I think Beasley is probably washed but I'm open to a practice squad level flyer.    I doubt Crowder offers much when he comes back because he's hardly played in this offense or with Allen.         

I think he’s just about washed myself.  But nothing ventured nothing gained, and if he picks up one or two big third downs the rest of the way it’s worth it.   It’s like taking a flier on brown to see if we can free up Diggs for use in the slot here and there.  No harm in trying.  
 

Frankly,  we’re desperate in the slot.  This was at least the second really bad game McKenzie has played this season.  They don’t think Shakir can get open there.  Hines isn’t ready for that role, and they don’t trust Cook with some of those snaps.  So Bease it is.  
 

I’ll add that I doubt this happens if Hodgins didn’t end up with the giants.  I really think we would have run him out there in the  big slot role and given it a go before taking a shot at it with Bease.  

12 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

You mean this tweet didn’t instill confidence in the staff that he’s a number 3 option in this offense?

 

 

 

This.  All day long.  McKenzie seems like a really nice, fun guy.  But this excuse-making and deflection of responsibility is too much.  Amateur move in that tweet. 

Edited December 13, 2022 by SectionC3

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, HurlyBurly51 said:

Someone, anyone, needs to take over for Lil' Dummy and relegate him to gadget plays.

I don't even want him gadgeting. Give those plays to Hines. I'm officially ready to relocate Isaiah to Florida. 

[Locomark]

NO THANK YOU. In his two games in Tampa he was a joke. He would be lucky to get a USFL job. Beasley is not an upgrade. If McKenzie has the dropsies then it’s next man up. Not old man tryout time. Did you see any playoff team take a flyer on him including Dallas after the failed OBJ deal when their 2nd best WR has 350 yards receiving? 

Edited December 13, 2022 by Locomark

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

I know what my reaction to that drop was in the stadium.  It was not good.  

 

The Brown play I could live with.  It was contested.  Knox I can kind of live with late in the game because he had CJ Moseley bearing down on him and interfering with his line of sight.  The McKenzie drops, however, are too much.  Enough is enough.  We are desperate for a receiver who can act as an extension of the running game and help us get the occasional third and short.  If Bease's return happens, it's an excellent move.  

I don't care anymore about his burst. He's always found a knack for sitting down in zones and getting open. He catches the ball and helps Josh move the chains. I don't care about YAC.  But I do insist on a player capable of catching the ball.  Remember Josh's first INT in LA.  That was a dry ball dropped by McKenzie. I think having Smoke & Beas together again in the WR room would be pretty cool.

[buffalo2218]

39 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

You mean this tweet didn’t instill confidence in the staff that he’s a number 3 option in this offense?

 

 

 

If there were any reason for McDermott to ring up Beasley, this alone may be it. How would this be any different of a distraction than what Beasley did? McKenzie doesn't need to be worrying about what fans say, and I'm quite sure McDermott wasn't happy with this himself. For all those saying Beasley is washed up, how bad can he be at this point in the season?  Most of his criticism came in the latter part of last season where he battled injuries and for the most part played through them. Then for those saying how bad he was in Tampa, even Brady himself is bad there.

[Locomark]

6 minutes ago, buffalo2218 said:

If there were any reason for McDermott to ring up Beasley, this alone may be it. How would this be any different of a distraction than what Beasley did? McKenzie doesn't need to be worrying about what fans say, and I'm quite sure McDermott wasn't happy with this himself. For all those saying Beasley is washed up, how bad can he be at this point in the season?  Most of his criticism came in the latter part of last season where he battled injuries and for the most part played through them. Then for those saying how bad he was in Tampa, even Brady himself is bad there.

Go watch the all-22 of the 2 Tampa games he played in. He was awful. He couldn’t complete routes. He had 2 slant passes go right past him, missed blocks. He made McK look like a superstar. He isn’t on another team for a reason. That was with Brady who thrives on short crap.  

[buffalo2218]

1 minute ago, Locomark said:

Go watch the all-22 of the 2 Tampa games he played in. He was awful. He couldn’t complete routes. He had 2 slant passes go right past him, missed blocks. He made McK look like a superstar. He isn’t on another team for a reason. That was with Brady who thrives on short crap.  

Given what I've seen of Brady so far this year, thriving isn't exactly the word I'd use

[Locomark]

1 minute ago, buffalo2218 said:

Given what I've seen of Brady so far this year, thriving isn't exactly the word I'd use

It wasn’t Brady. Cole wasn’t able to run anymore. He was playing afraid to get hit and wasn’t running routes at all. Looked like a HS kid pulled out the stands. He isn’t playing anymore. 

[Chandler#81]

3 hours ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said:

Hell yes. Have a seat Isaiah.

Yeah, on the bus heading out of town.

2 hours ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said:

It's not vague. Ryan's own sources confirmed it to him. What are you looking for exactly? He's not going to tell you his sources.

Don’t bother. It’s a ‘abused spouse’ thing with Little Dummy & @Beck Water. Remaining loyal no matter how many black eyes lil D doles out..🤦‍♂️
 

As for Beas, if he meets with McBeane and passes a physical, ink hizazz to a Vet Min contract. It’s crunch time for this team, who’ve already squandered a couple chances at a ring. Allen needs help. Give him someone he can trust!

[buffalo2218]

Just now, Locomark said:

It wasn’t Brady. Cole wasn’t able to run anymore. He was playing afraid to get hit and wasn’t running routes at all. Looked like a HS kid pulled out the stands. He isn’t playing anymore. 

Ok, with all due respect, you really don't think Beasley and Allen couldn't pick up where they left off? 

[Locomark]

Just now, buffalo2218 said:

Ok, with all due respect, you really don't think Beasley and Allen couldn't pick up where they left off? 

I don’t think Beasley can play anymore. No he is not able to run or cut base on what I observed. Period. He isn’t the same. 

[Chandler#81]

Just now, buffalo2218 said:

Ok, with all due respect, you really don't think Beasley and Allen couldn't pick up where they left off? 

I’m confident of this; a couple of Drives Sunday wouldn’t have ended in punts so soon if Beasley was on the field..

[buffalo2218]

1 minute ago, Chandler#81 said:

I’m confident of this; a couple of Drives Sunday wouldn’t have ended in punts so soon if Beasley was on the field..

I'm inclined to agree with this. 

 

1 minute ago, Locomark said:

I don’t think Beasley can play anymore. No he is not able to run or cut base on what I observed. Period. He isn’t the same. 

Beasley has never been a speedster. As many have already mentioned, he's not a RAC type of guy. But he is very good at moving the chains

 

[Locomark]

5 minutes ago, Locomark said:

I don’t think Beasley can play anymore. No he is not able to juke much from what I observed. Period. He isn’t the same. He had 17 yards in 2 games total with Tampa and I saw both full games. His biggest play was 5 yards. He can’t run. 

You people are projected a want on something that isn’t real. 

Edited December 13, 2022 by Locomark

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

 

I didnt realize Crowder had a chance of returning this year. When would he be expected back?

 

From a list of:

Crowder

Brown

Beasley

McKenzie

 

I'm taking Crowder, easily, every time.

 

He has been practicing on the sidelines for a week or two now.

[Joe Ferguson]

At least '1st and Cole' is well rested.

[Mango]

3 hours ago, The Dean said:

I will certainly welcome him back but honestly not sure what he has left in the tank.

 

I don't like that he quit on his team earlier this year. The excuse "he didn't know the offense" falls flat with me. He's a seasoned vet. LEARN THE OFFENSE! Did you see what that bum Mayfield did after a practice with his new team?

 

But if he has something left, let's give him a shot. I hope do hope he isn't as controversial with his social media posts---the same way I feel about every player.

I don’t understand why the Bills would do this before giving Shakir any meaningful snaps?

[Big Turk]

https://mobile.twitter.com/sandinGOAT/status/1602529482392338432

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/InRodWeTrustMTL/status/1602545811631529984

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/NickSabatoGNN/status/1602520699394207745

Edited December 13, 2022 by Big Turk

[Chandler#81]

 

[rusty shackleford]

I feel like Beasley’s departure was a lot dependent on what his expectations were for this season. Time tested vets like him have a hard time of accepting what reality does to receivers of that age. He thought his value was way higher than reality. A short stint on the Bucks PS may have made him wake up.

 

A well rested and uninjured Beasley coming in during the last few weeks with a chip on his shoulder, realizing he isn’t worth much more than vet minimum could go a long way. I would rather have a healthy Beas coming into the stretch today than a barely walking Beas facing the playoffs that we have seen the last two years.

[Locomark]

2 minutes ago, rusty shackleford said:

I feel like Beasley’s departure was a lot dependent on what his expectations were for this season. Time tested vets like him have a hard time of accepting what reality does to receivers of that age. He thought his value was way higher than reality. A short stint on the Bucks PS may have made him wake up.

 

A well rested and uninjured Beasley coming in during the last few weeks with a chip on his shoulder, realizing he isn’t worth much more than vet minimum could go a long way. I would rather have a healthy Beas coming into the stretch today than a barely walking Beas facing the playoffs that we have seen the last two years.

Rusty,  just because he is well rested doesn’t mean he can play anymore. If he could he would be playing for someone already. He got to put himself on film months ago on Tampa and no one was calling him after. I didn’t observe the same skills anymore. Being rested is different than having the Will to compete and the skills to keep performing at a high level. I didn’t see either in those Tampa games. 

[Locomark]

Why didn’t Daboll call him when they had all their receivers go down when he is playing small ball and fighting for the playoffs? Ask yourself that. 

[rusty shackleford]

5 minutes ago, Locomark said:

Rusty,  just because he is well rested doesn’t mean he can play anymore. If he could he would be playing for someone already. He got to put himself on film months ago on Tampa and no one was calling him after. I didn’t observe the same skills anymore. Being rested is different than having the Will to compete and the skills to keep performing at a high level. I didn’t see either in those Tampa games. 

That may be true or maybe not, we don’t really know enough what’s going on with him to understand the details. He may have given it a shot and hated plying in TB with Brady. Or he may have had the best time of his career playing with JA17. We can’t really speculate when it comes down to someone’s will to play. At the end of they day he just seems to have something left in him that he wants to put out there and that alone seems like enough to take a flyer on.