Off topic 2023 draft

[78thealltimegreat]

Even though we have much bigger goals with the current season I figured I’d look at a few mock drafts for 2023 and the consensus again seems the Bills should draft a running back in R1. 
For the first time in forever I think Buffalo is set a RB and we need oline and WR as the top priorities on this team. 

[whorlnut]

1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Even though we have much bigger goals with the current season I figured I’d look at a few mock drafts for 2023 and the consensus again seems the Bills should draft a running back in R1. 
For the first time in forever I think Buffalo is set a RB and we need oline and WR as the top priorities on this team. 

I wouldn’t say it’s the consensus, but I’ve seen it. I don’t agree with it though. I’ve also seen a lot of interior oline and WRs mocked to us in 1. I think most people are recognizing that our future need and current weaknesses lie on the offensive side. 

[clayboy54]

4 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Even though we have much bigger goals with the current season I figured I’d look at a few mock drafts for 2023 and the consensus again seems the Bills should draft a running back in R1. 
For the first time in forever I think Buffalo is set a RB and we need oline and WR as the top priorities on this team. 

Oh boy... I can't wait for mock drafts.

We need much more talent because we are soooo very weak and buried in the standings.

 

Houston could use your help.

[scuba guy]

The ones that I looked at the other day all showed that we were going dt round 1 and or de round 2.

 

Who knows we don't need a ot and a guard?

[LABILLBACKER]

This team's #1 weakness is OL. Hopefully someone finally recognizes that and drafts a minimum 3-4 olineman. 

[Htt2821]

Was thinking about this the other day just cause I love the draft…will have to think first 4 rounds will be a combo of 2 OL, WR, and S. 

[LeGOATski]

2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

This team's #1 weakness is OL. Hopefully someone finally recognizes that and drafts a minimum 3-4 olineman. 

A minimum of 3-4 OL in the same draft? Are you being cheeky?

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Do you suppose the Bills front office will have moved on from Beane by then? 🤔

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[Tanoros]

2 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

A minimum of 3-4 OL in the same draft? Are you being cheeky?

I took that to include UDFA’s, with 1-2 actually drafted. 

[DasNootz]

Rd1 - WR
Rd2 - OG or S
Rd3 - S or OG

Edited December 7, 2022 by DasNootz

[SCBills]

I saw one the other day that had us taking Bijan Robinson at RB in RD1.  

 

While a Robinson/Cook backfield would be absolutely absurd.. that seems like a complete luxury pick.  

 

O'Cyrus Torrence, the Guard from Florida is another guy I see mocked to us a lot.   Absolute mauler in the run game that is also very good in pass pro.  Think he would be a home run.  

 

Depending on what happens with OBJ, WR would have to be a RD1 or RD2 pick, imo.  

 

I do think Poyer will be gone this offseason, so I'd be ok rolling with Hyde/Hamlin, and then an early Day 3 pick at Safety to develop behind Hyde. 

[No_Matter_What]

16 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Even though we have much bigger goals with the current season I figured I’d look at a few mock drafts for 2023 and the consensus again seems the Bills should draft a running back in R1. 
For the first time in forever I think Buffalo is set a RB and we need oline and WR as the top priorities on this team. 

Yeah tankathon.com has us taking RB Jahmyr Gibbs for over a month now, maybe even two. Must be some kind of obsession.

 

I am hoping for some kind of OL/WR/defense/OL combination early rounds.

[Your Brown Eye]

I would dare say McDermott and Beane have about 19 DB's on their list for the first two rounds

[wppete]

It’s clear we need to draft the best available OL. 

[whorlnut]

13 minutes ago, DasNootz said:

Rd1 - WR
Rd2 - OG or S
Rd3 - S or OG

I just don’t understand the need to draft another DB high. McD can coach DBs up better than anyone and Hamlin looks like he can pair just fine with Hyde once he’s back. This off-season has to be about the offense with the premium picks. 

12 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I saw one the other day that had us taking Bijan Robinson at RB in RD1.  

 

While a Robinson/Cook backfield would be absolutely absurd.. that seems like a complete luxury pick.  

 

O'Cyrus Torrence, the Guard from Florida is another guy I see mocked to us a lot.   Absolute mauler in the run game that is also very good in pass pro.  Think he would be a home run.  

 

Depending on what happens with OBJ, WR would have to be a RD1 or RD2 pick, imo.  

 

I do think Poyer will be gone this offseason, so I'd be ok rolling with Hyde/Hamlin, and then an early Day 3 pick at Safety to develop behind Hyde. 

This. Go get a day 3 safety to develop for when Hyde is gone. We dont need a day 1 or 2 safety. The offense is the priority for once. 

[The Jokeman]

30 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Even though we have much bigger goals with the current season I figured I’d look at a few mock drafts for 2023 and the consensus again seems the Bills should draft a running back in R1. 
For the first time in forever I think Buffalo is set a RB and we need oline and WR as the top priorities on this team. 

Singletary is set to be an UFA after this season, I can see us letting him walk and making Cook the starter and drafting someone to compliment him. I just mentioned in another thread that Chris Rodriguez Jr. could fill that role but he'd be a later no sooner pick. To me our 1st Round need likely LB or S if Edmunds/Poyer leave or maybe even DT. 

[GunnerBill]

Rounds 1 and 2 need to be oline and wide receiver if at all possible. I haven't got started on this class yet but my guess is WR rd1, OL rd2 will be the efficient way to do it. If they then must have their safety in round 3, fine. 

 

A round 1 safety would not please me. 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

I'd like a backup QB somewhere in the later rounds sort of like what they did with Fromm.  The only difference is I'd prefer it to be a guy who's more of a plus athlete.  

 

Helps the scout team planning for mobile QBs, and it makes the offense a bit more Allen like if Allen were to miss time.  

[Lost]

How many times should a team draft running back after running back expecting results before realizing that perhaps RB isn't the actual problem. 

 

If you're team has a great OL, even a practice squad RB can look good.  

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Rounds 1 and 2 need to be oline and wide receiver if at all possible. I haven't got started on this class yet but my guess is WR rd1, OL rd2 will be the efficient way to do it. If they then must have their safety in round 3, fine. 

 

A round 1 safety would not please me. 

 

Depending on the class, you could be looking at like 8th WR pick though.  I'm still open to BPA (with some limits - no TEs, no S's, no RBs, no QBs etc.)

[whorlnut]

6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Rounds 1 and 2 need to be oline and wide receiver if at all possible. I haven't got started on this class yet but my guess is WR rd1, OL rd2 will be the efficient way to do it. If they then must have their safety in round 3, fine. 

 

A round 1 safety would not please me. 

Honestly, a round 1 defensive player might send me into a rage.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

Just now, Lost said:

How many times should a team draft running back after running back expecting results before realizing that perhaps RB isn't the actual problem. 

 

If you're team has a great OL, even a practice squad RB can look good.  

 

I tend to agree.  I don't mind having athletes on the line like Brown, but he needs to improve his technique to be slotted in as a starter.  What better way to force that than a new guy coming in trying to take his job?

[whorlnut]

4 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

Depending on the class, you could be looking at like 8th WR pick though.  I'm still open to BPA (with some limits - no TEs, no S's, no RBs, no QBs etc.)

True, but look at the amount of early round WRs last year. I’d take any of them right now. Christian Watson and George Pickens look like first round talents. Would anyone have cared if we took either of them as the 7th or 8th guy?

[GunnerBill]

6 minutes ago, whorlnut said:

True, but look at the amount of early round WRs last year. I’d take any of them right now. Christian Watson and George Pickens look like first round talents. Would anyone have cared if we took either of them as the 7th or 8th guy?

 

I was advocating for Watson. I didn't hate the Elam pick by any stretch.... but my top two targets were Andrew Booth (who was hurt, and after getting on the field a couple of times is hurt again so I appreciate the medicals may just not have checked out) and if not him Christian Watson. 

 

And with Watson I knew it would take time. He had a slow start to the year. But his talent level is there and the last few weeks it has been visible. And Bills didn't need him to be great right away. We have Diggs, we have Gabe, they could have sprinkled Watson in this year. Let him really compete to be the #2 with Gabe next spring. 

 

EDIT: in fairness I had Watson as (I think from memory) the #23 player on my board in any event. I don't care how many WRs had gone I didn't see him as a reach. 

Edited December 7, 2022 by GunnerBill

[whorlnut]

4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I was advocating for Watson. I didn't hate the Elam pick by any stretch.... but my top two targets were Andrew Booth (who was hurt, and after getting on the field a couple of times is hurt again so I appreciate the medicals may just not have checked out) and if not him Christian Watson. 

 

And with Watson I knew it would take time. He had a slow start to the year. But his talent level is there and the last few weeks it has been visible. And Bills didn't need him to be great right away. We have Diggs, we have Gabe, they could have sprinkled Watson in this year. Let him really compete to be the #2 with Gabe next spring. 

 

EDIT: in fairness I had Watson as (I think from memory) the #23 player on my board in any event. I don't care how many WRs had gone I didn't see him as a reach. 

I wanted Breece Hall, an olineman, or a WR. We are flush with defensive talent and I argued that we could wait to get a DB on day 2 or 3. That just doesn’t seem to be the way with this staff. I just hope they finally do what needs done this off-season with a focus on offense. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

I was advocating for Watson.

We already had a Christian!  His name was Wade, and he was spectacular. 😠

Can we trade you for him? 🤨

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[Bleeding Bills Blue]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I was advocating for Watson. I didn't hate the Elam pick by any stretch.... but my top two targets were Andrew Booth (who was hurt, and after getting on the field a couple of times is hurt again so I appreciate the medicals may just not have checked out) and if not him Christian Watson. 

 

And with Watson I knew it would take time. He had a slow start to the year. But his talent level is there and the last few weeks it has been visible. And Bills didn't need him to be great right away. We have Diggs, we have Gabe, they could have sprinkled Watson in this year. Let him really compete to be the #2 with Gabe next spring. 

 

Watson was intriguing to me, especially as Beane tends to draft traits.  6'5 with huge h ands and runs a sub 4.4 - and you can ease him in while working with Chad Hall and Diggs.  

 

Shakir where we got him is still a nice value, and i wouldn't give up on the player.  I don't think he'll be the best in the class but he's a gamer.  

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

We already had a Christian!  His name was Wade, and he was spectacular. 😠

Can we trade you for him? 🤨

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He is in France now. 

[whorlnut]

Just now, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

Watson was intriguing to me, especially as Beane tends to draft traits.  6'5 with huge h ands and runs a sub 4.4 - and you can ease him in while working with Chad Hall and Diggs.  

 

Shakir where we got him is still a nice value, and i wouldn't give up on the player.  I don't think he'll be the best in the class but he's a gamer.  

I think Shakir is gonna be solid. I also don’t think he should preclude them from drafting a WR in rounds 1 or 2. 

[GunnerBill]

Just now, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

Watson was intriguing to me, especially as Beane tends to draft traits.  6'5 with huge h ands and runs a sub 4.4 - and you can ease him in while working with Chad Hall and Diggs.  

 

Shakir where we got him is still a nice value, and i wouldn't give up on the player.  I don't think he'll be the best in the class but he's a gamer.  

 

Agree. I had a late 3 on Shakir. I liked that pick. But he is a slot receiver. He might well be the starting slot for this team from next year... but he has some development needs as a separator and we have seen those on tape. Outside freaks like Watson are true high ceiling swings. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

He is in France now. 

'Pool boy' for some well-to-do French cougar? 🤔

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

2 minutes ago, whorlnut said:

I think Shakir is gonna be solid. I also don’t think he should preclude them from drafting a WR in rounds 1 or 2. 

 

Oh not at all, just that even though they missed on some round 2 targets, i think they got a good value in the 5th.  

 

I'd like a lineman in the 1st if possible.  I think RT could be upgraded, and in the 2-4 range they probably need at least 1, maybe 2 interior linemen.  Fix the run game, and keep your expensive QB investment healthy.  

Edited December 7, 2022 by Bleeding Bills Blue

[PrimeTime101]

1 hour ago, LeGOATski said:

A minimum of 3-4 OL in the same draft? Are you being cheeky?

2021 we picked up 3 OL. you're acting like this is unheard of.

[SCBills]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Agree. I had a late 3 on Shakir. I liked that pick. But he is a slot receiver. He might well be the starting slot for this team from next year... but he has some development needs as a separator and we have seen those on tape. Outside freaks like Watson are true high ceiling swings. 

 

Christian Watson seemed designed in a lab for Josh Allen and our Front Office.. especially given their views on traits. 

 

Oh well, at least we have Xavier Rhodes. 

[LeGOATski]

2 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

2021 we picked up 3 OL. you're acting like this is unheard of.

I know. That poster said a minimum. 3-4 OL is a lot for one draft, lol. Not to mention the fact that we'd likely only get to keep two after the rest are poached off the PS like Jack Anderson was.

[Logic]

I fully agree that WR and OL should be the top two priorities.

As I said here not long ago, I'd be fine with the whole offseason revolving entirely around upgrading the offense.

That said, if Edmunds is not re-signed, the Bills will have a massive hole at MLB, and you can damned sure bet they'll be forced to spend a premium pick to replace him.

[BillyBilliams]

Bills need OL help and a #2 WR.  You don't necessarily have to draft OL in the first, but I'd rather them spend that 1 on a WR.  They need talen opposite of Diggs.  Davis has proven he's more of a situational type player.  He's not a clear cut #2.

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, LeGOATski said:

A minimum of 3-4 OL in the same draft? Are you being cheeky?

If you draft 3, maybe 1 or 2 stick. If you can draft back to back DE's in the 2nd & 3rd round than Beane can put his foot down and do the same w/ OL.  Maybe another in the 6th or 7th?  Dead serious after watching Q nearly get Josh killed twice. Sorry but I'm protecting our #1 asset.

[LeGOATski]

2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

If you draft 3, maybe 1 or 2 stick. If you can draft back to back DE's in the 2nd & 3rd round than Beane can put his foot down and do the same w/ OL.  Maybe another in the 6th or 7th?  Dead serious after watching Q nearly get Josh killed twice. Sorry but I'm protecting our #1 asset.

So, that's a maximum of 3-4...

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

RB does become a need if we let Singletary walk, but for the love of god, do not draft one in the 1st round. 

 

O-line and WR are bigger and more important needs.