muppy Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ya Digg? said: The Chargers are ALWAYS seen as a playoff team yet NEVER MAKE THE PLAYOFFS! There probably isn’t a more overrated team in the league, and the Chiefs barely beat them. I am not saying the Lions are a playoff team but at this point in the season they are a more dangerous team than the Chargers are There is likely not another single team in the NFL as despised by their original fanbase than the "Los Angeles Chaagaahs" I hope the non playoff appearance carries on. It is SWEET Karma after what they did to the people of Americas Finest city. SMH Pathetic. Vent/ Edited November 25, 2022 by muppy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Ya Digg? said: The Chargers are ALWAYS seen as a playoff team yet NEVER MAKE THE PLAYOFFS! There probably isn’t a more overrated team in the league, and the Chiefs barely beat them. I am not saying the Lions are a playoff team but at this point in the season they are a more dangerous team than the Chargers are Be careful what you ask for. The Chargers might very well play the Bills in a playoff game. Also, there is no way in hell that the Lions are a more dangerous team than the Chargers. Allen and Williams are getting healthy. Herbert is moons better than Geoff and Eckler is explosive. The Lions defense is one of the worst in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 4 hours ago, No_Matter_What said: Thank God we have you to tell us what reality is. Without you I'd foolishly think that we are still an elite team dealing with lot of unluck and adversity. Just view me as a voice of reason to all this unrealistic optimism. For example, week after week people here predict Bills blowouts despite all the injuries. Lions game because defense is bad, Browns game because defense is bad, Vikings game because they haven't beaten anyone, Jets game because Wilson stinks, etc...This week how many will be predicting a Bills blowout vs NE? Jones noodle arm can't beat the Bills. Bills 41 NE 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Be careful what you ask for. The Chargers might very well play the Bills in a playoff game. Also, there is no way in hell that the Lions are a more dangerous team than the Chargers. Allen and Williams are getting healthy. Herbert is moons better than Geoff and Eckler is explosive. The Lions defense is one of the worst in the league. Williams literally got re-injured on his first catch against the Chiefs. Chargers are talented. Tons of injuries. Something is off with them/Herbert. Herbert can make the Allen throws, but when your QB slides in big moments, one yard short of the first down, I don’t know … Might be a microcosm of why they don’t seem to have “it”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, SCBills said: Williams literally got re-injured on his first catch against the Chiefs. Chargers are talented. Tons of injuries. Something is off with them/Herbert. Herbert can make the Allen throws, but when your QB slides in big moments, one yard short of the first down, I don’t know … Might be a microcosm of why they don’t seem to have “it”. They don't scare me in the slightest. Staley is one of the worst coaches in the league. The Chargers have a collection of individual talent, and that's it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Process said: Knox's lack of involvement in this offense is definitely one of the biggest disappointments this season. $13M is a lot to pay for a blocking TE. I am interested to see how his involvement goes the rest of this season, and next, but if his lack of targets continues as it has been through 10 games, it is a contract that never should have been offered to him. I've said it multiple times, the GM and coaches need to be on the same page. If the coaches don't want him to be a focal point of the offense, than that message should have been relayed to Beane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Be careful what you ask for. The Chargers might very well play the Bills in a playoff game. Also, there is no way in hell that the Lions are a more dangerous team than the Chargers. Allen and Williams are getting healthy. Herbert is moons better than Geoff and Eckler is explosive. The Lions defense is one of the worst in the league. What have the Chargers shown at all this season that makes them a playoff team? They have 1 win this season by more than 1 score, but have a couple of losses by over 10 points. Allen and Williams can never stay healthy, and as talented as Herbert is, I do think right now he is overrated. He can make some great throws but I have pretty much zero confidence that he could win a game like Josh did yesterday. I would love for a healthy Bills team to see them in the playoffs. And what I’m saying is that right now, the Lions are a more dangerous team. Yes the defense is bad but their offense is clicking much better than the Chargers are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 5 hours ago, Buffalo Ballin said: We won. We shouldn't give a F what any pundit thinks. These games are difficult. We lost Von Miller most likely for the rest of the year. Oh well. Gotta carry on. Next man up type steez. Keep grinding it out. These wins are gonna be ugly from here on out. We really do have the toughest schedule and obstacles this year. Says who? He walked out of the locker room without a boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Ya Digg? said: I tried watching Shakir on a couple of routes (as well as you can until he’s out of the screen) and it looks like he struggles to get separation. That being said on Josh’s touchdown when he dropped the snap, Shakir made a nice move to get wide open, I wonder if the play was designed to go to him Unless it is zone or a broken coverage, how often does a WR get that much separation on any given play? It is the QB's job to fit the ball into tight spaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ta111 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 20 minutes ago, SCBills said: Williams literally got re-injured on his first catch against the Chiefs. Chargers are talented. Tons of injuries. Something is off with them/Herbert. Herbert can make the Allen throws, but when your QB slides in big moments, one yard short of the first down, I don’t know … Might be a microcosm of why they don’t seem to have “it”. Main difference is Allen will run through a brick wall to win a game, Herbert not so much. Talent is one thing but you also need a certain amount of intestinal fortitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 10 hours ago, Scott7975 said: Very strange way of looking at this. I think you can do better. Let me help 😃 The Lions are not as mediocre as their record. They do have a really really good offense and lost some very close games. Sometimes the ball just bounces that way. The Bills, also banged up on both sides of the ball including QB are finding ways to still win. While also losing a home game, having 1 practice per week the last two weeks and a QB that doesnt throw in practice at all. I think most of these players are going to be back by the playoffs and the Bills just need to find ways to win until then. There are no style points with the injuries we have. Just keep winning. If anything its a credit to this coaching staff, the depth Beane put together, and the resillience of our players getting to 8-3. You're welcome friend. That's very fair. However, this season the injuries just keep mounting and seemingly won't stop. Now, add in Von Miller to the mix. Just seems like the football gods have spoken. Allen is hurt and who knows if he will fully recover this season. It seems like the kind of injury that will linger until the season is over. Hope I'm wrong there because the Bills need a heathly Allen to make a deep run. This version on Allen just won't cut it. Agree about the Bills wins. They deserve credit for winning despite the extreme negative circumstances and injuries. Coaching has been sub par but winning certainly over shadows their mistakes. I'd add it's more difficult to win with your back ups. So maybe the coaches deserve some slack. Dorsey seems to be learning on the job and Fraizer has been pretty solid the last 2 games with his adjustments. Stopping Chubb shouldn't go unnoticed and he put more pressure on Geoff towards the end of the game. However, let's take a step back and look at their last 2 wins. The Browns just aren't that good. They find ways to lose. The Lions defense is one of the worst in the league and they played without twi starting Oline man and their best CB. They are the classic example of a young talented team that finds ways to lose. The Bill played most of yesterday's game looking flat, spent, and going through the motions. I was watching and hoping the Bills with Allen could generate a win somehow someway. My prayers were answered. The Bills gutted our a win that they probably should have lost. That does say a lot about the team and the coaches. Good teams find ways to win and vice versa. Yesterday was a classic example if that. With that said, a healthy Bills team is extremely dangerous. I'd argue they would be the team to beat. The unknown answer is how heathly will they be? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 25 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: What have the Chargers shown at all this season that makes them a playoff team? They have 1 win this season by more than 1 score, but have a couple of losses by over 10 points. Allen and Williams can never stay healthy, and as talented as Herbert is, I do think right now he is overrated. He can make some great throws but I have pretty much zero confidence that he could win a game like Josh did yesterday. I would love for a healthy Bills team to see them in the playoffs. And what I’m saying is that right now, the Lions are a more dangerous team. Yes the defense is bad but their offense is clicking much better than the Chargers are So you just casually dismiss the game the Chargers played vs the Chiefs who are arguably the best team in the league. Get out of here. I compared Herbert to Geoff not Allen. No way in hell are the Lions more dangerous than the Chargers. You can spin it any way you like. I disagree and I'll leave it at that. Sometimes it's ok to say you exgerrated or was wrong. I've admitted my wrongdoings several times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan_in_tx Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, stevewin said: This angle makes it even more impressive- looking left the whole first part of the play then just launches it down the middle to where Stef will be. Crazy Agree... Watching on TV I wondered why he didn't go to Gabe as it looked like he could have taken it to the EZ. This angle shows the safety coming over top preventing any deep downfield throw for Davis.. Couldn't see that on the TV angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Anyone notice our great "ST only guys" Neal & Jones both whiff on the punt returner near the end of the 3rd quarter which led to the Lions go ahead TD at the time? Good thing they are both gifted roster spots because of their outstanding abilities on ST. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 I just saw this and thought it was very well done and cute 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 100% for Klein 14% for Dodson 0% for T. Brenard That is sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Mat68 said: I liked that missing so many Dlineman Ed Oliver stepped up big. He was a force on the field with Milano. With the injuries on defense Im not going to expect the replacements to make the plays. The last few weeks im disappointed most with Jackson and Johnson. They are 2/5 of the starting secondary. I expect Benford, Elam, and Hamlin to get picked on. Cleveland and Detriot got numeros plays on both Jackson and Johnson. They seem to be treading water or struggling with there new primary roles. If White gets back to a majority snap count I rotate Benford and Elam in with Jackson. Still, I’m not going to get overly disappointed with a 6th rounder from Villanova and a 7th rounder from Pittsburgh. They’ve done what they can and have taken the Bills as far as they can. In short order we have two corners with first round SEC pedigree coming back in to replace these guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: So you just casually dismiss the game the Chargers played vs the Chiefs who are arguably the best team in the league. Get out of here. I compared Herbert to Geoff not Allen. No way in hell are the Lions more dangerous than the Chargers. You can spin it any way you like. I disagree and I'll leave it at that. Sometimes it's ok to say you exgerrated or was wrong. I've admitted my wrongdoings several times. Ahhh there’s the poster I’m used to reading, continually spinning comments to fit your agenda. I didn’t mention any teams specifically, I said they have one win that was over 1 score but a couple of losses over 10. They played a decent game against the Chiefs the other day, and still lost….again. I said Herbert is talented but overrated, don’t know how you can dispute that. Yes I do think that if those 2 teams played 10 time right now, I believe the Chargers would win 5 times at most. Not really sure what spin I’m trying to put in anything but read it how you want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) Bills have won cosecutive games in Detroit while Lions haven't done that since 2016 hahaha. Kinda like that stat that Brady had more TD passes in Buffalo than any Bills QB since he was a rookie Edited November 25, 2022 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Still, I’m not going to get overly disappointed with a 6th rounder from Villanova and a 7th rounder from Pittsburgh. They’ve done what they can and have taken the Bills as far as they can. In short order we have two corners with first round SEC pedigree coming back in to replace these guys. Dane and Benford can be fine when we have two All-Pro LB’s, a top tier nickel corner, a top 5 DL and two elite safeties behind them. Edmunds takes away the middle of the field. Safeties protect over the top. Our corners weren’t asked to do a ton. However, we’re seeing that these guys are good depth/fringe starters but were able to be hidden by McD and Frazier due to scheme and talent around them. Without the talent around them .. we’re seeing what they are… a depth corner and an unproven late round rookie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, CNYfan said: 100% for Klein 14% for Dodson 0% for T. Brenard That is sad. Even sadder, come the draft next year(after Edmunds goes to UFA), it will be a tough decision for McD and Beane...DL, LB, CB or S in Round 1(rinse and repeat for remainder of draft). Be prepared for another season of Allen having no time to throw because Beane looks to solve the IOL woes via dumpster diving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Scott7975 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 4 hours ago, LabattBlue said: I could see not playing him the entire game, but they activate him for the game and then he plays a handful of snaps early, and that’s it? Color me confused. He played 15 snaps over the first two series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: I'm afraid that Devante Parker may have a career game next week. Dane is having trouble adjusting to the ball, especially jump balls. This is a big part of Parker's game. Hopefully Frazier figures something out Think teams notices this? When Shakir's in the game he's either used to block or decoy. or he simply isnt doing enough to get a target. only the all22 knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 First win in two years wearing white over blue. Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 I think that some of you people would have been happier with a loss here as it would have proved your narratives. I, for one, will take any win any way they can be had. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, newcam2012 said: Just view me as a voice of reason to all this unrealistic optimism. For example, week after week people here predict Bills blowouts despite all the injuries. Lions game because defense is bad, Browns game because defense is bad, Vikings game because they haven't beaten anyone, Jets game because Wilson stinks, etc...This week how many will be predicting a Bills blowout vs NE? Jones noodle arm can't beat the Bills. Bills 41 NE 10. 8 - 3 That is the reality. Last season we were 7-4 on our way to 7-6. Chill out with your oh woe is me crusade. The Bills are finding ways to win period 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 32 minutes ago, CNYfan said: 100% for Klein 14% for Dodson 0% for T. Brenard That is sad. Klein was huge. Very good in run sport and competent in coverage. Dodson is an utter disappointment, and isn’t even going to be tendered as an RFA after this season. Bernard is still a raw rookie, and so the jury is still out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 There's a dude in this thread who thinks this forum is full of unrealistic optimism 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, newcam2012 said: That's very fair. However, this season the injuries just keep mounting and seemingly won't stop. Now, add in Von Miller to the mix. Just seems like the football gods have spoken. Allen is hurt and who knows if he will fully recover this season. It seems like the kind of injury that will linger until the season is over. Hope I'm wrong there because the Bills need a heathly Allen to make a deep run. This version on Allen just won't cut it. Agree about the Bills wins. They deserve credit for winning despite the extreme negative circumstances and injuries. Coaching has been sub par but winning certainly over shadows their mistakes. I'd add it's more difficult to win with your back ups. So maybe the coaches deserve some slack. Dorsey seems to be learning on the job and Fraizer has been pretty solid the last 2 games with his adjustments. Stopping Chubb shouldn't go unnoticed and he put more pressure on Geoff towards the end of the game. However, let's take a step back and look at their last 2 wins. The Browns just aren't that good. They find ways to lose. The Lions defense is one of the worst in the league and they played without twi starting Oline man and their best CB. They are the classic example of a young talented team that finds ways to lose. The Bill played most of yesterday's game looking flat, spent, and going through the motions. I was watching and hoping the Bills with Allen could generate a win somehow someway. My prayers were answered. The Bills gutted our a win that they probably should have lost. That does say a lot about the team and the coaches. Good teams find ways to win and vice versa. Yesterday was a classic example if that. With that said, a healthy Bills team is extremely dangerous. I'd argue they would be the team to beat. The unknown answer is how heathly will they be? Injuries are just the luck of the draw. Most of these injuries are just sprained ankle, hammies, etc. Those players will be back. Dont know about Von. I dont take any stock in online doctors. Hopefully his MRI shows good and he is back by playoffs or even before. Allen's injury isnt as severe as the online doctors all screamed. I expect it gets better over time. If he starts throwing regularly in practice then its pretty obviously getting better as he didnt throw in practice since the injury other than this one last practice before Detroit. For everything going on this year and as sloppy as its looked this team is better than last season. These are games the Bills would have lost last season. They are far more resillient this year. 59 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: So you just casually dismiss the game the Chargers played vs the Chiefs who are arguably the best team in the league. Get out of here. I compared Herbert to Geoff not Allen. No way in hell are the Lions more dangerous than the Chargers. You can spin it any way you like. I disagree and I'll leave it at that. Sometimes it's ok to say you exgerrated or was wrong. I've admitted my wrongdoings several times. The Bills beat the Chiefs man. Like WTF? The Chargers are the same team they have been... play a lot of close games and come out on the wrong side of them. All the things you want to say the Bills are is exactly what the Chargers ACTUALLY have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, LabattBlue said: Anyone notice our great "ST only guys" Neal & Jones both whiff on the punt returner near the end of the 3rd quarter which led to the Lions go ahead TD at the time? Good thing they are both gifted roster spots because of their outstanding abilities on ST. Yeah,I noted that. For an “elite” gunner, Jones seems to have zero effect on any games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Just want to say those all grey Lions jerseys from yesterday have to be the ugliest in the league. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 54 minutes ago, SCBills said: Dane and Benford can be fine when we have two All-Pro LB’s, a top tier nickel corner, a top 5 DL and two elite safeties behind them. Edmunds takes away the middle of the field. Safeties protect over the top. Our corners weren’t asked to do a ton. However, we’re seeing that these guys are good depth/fringe starters but were able to be hidden by McD and Frazier due to scheme and talent around them. Without the talent around them .. we’re seeing what they are… a depth corner and an unproven late round rookie. They compete and try hard, but yes I agree, they tend to trail the play and as we know Jackson doesn’t get his head around and locate the football. They lack that elite closing speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 50 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: 8 - 3 That is the reality. Last season we were 7-4 on our way to 7-6. Chill out with your oh woe is me crusade. The Bills are finding ways to win period Shhh, if you don't admit the season is over and the Bills won't even make the playoffs you're a Polyana. It's your duty as a loser fan to always assume failure, put down everything you can and demand others to do the same. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 46 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: They compete and try hard, but yes I agree, they tend to trail the play and as we know Jackson doesn’t get his head around and locate the football. They lack that elite closing speed. But other than that he’s solid. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Scott7975 said: Injuries are just the luck of the draw. Most of these injuries are just sprained ankle, hammies, etc. Those players will be back. Dont know about Von. I dont take any stock in online doctors. Hopefully his MRI shows good and he is back by playoffs or even before. Allen's injury isnt as severe as the online doctors all screamed. I expect it gets better over time. If he starts throwing regularly in practice then its pretty obviously getting better as he didnt throw in practice since the injury other than this one last practice before Detroit. For everything going on this year and as sloppy as its looked this team is better than last season. These are games the Bills would have lost last season. They are far more resillient this year. The Bills beat the Chiefs man. Like WTF? The Chargers are the same team they have been... play a lot of close games and come out on the wrong side of them. All the things you want to say the Bills are is exactly what the Chargers ACTUALLY have been. Scott with respect I never said the Bills don't beat the Chargers. I think the Chargers would be a dangerous team in the playoffs. They have Herbert, Allen, Williams, Eckler, Mack, and Derwin James. Add in Joey Bosa and they will be a tough out. It remains to be seen how healthy they can get and if they can get over the choke mentality. My main compliant was a poster was trying to say the Lions were a more dangerous team. Imho, it's simply not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Scott with respect I never said the Bills don't beat the Chargers. I think the Chargers would be a dangerous team in the playoffs. They have Herbert, Allen, Williams, Eckler, Mack, and Derwin James. Add in Joey Bosa and they will be a tough out. It remains to be seen how healthy they can get and if they can get over the choke mentality. My main compliant was a poster was trying to say the Lions were a more dangerous team. Imho, it's simply not true. Subjective. Chargers have avgeraged 22.7 ppg on the season and are 5-5. I'll believe they might be a threat in the playoffs if they actually get there and win a game. Personally I think Herbert is over rated. He makes some nice wow throws but he doesnt seem to have any dawg in him. Gotta have the dawg. The desire to win. I just dont see it. I see a guy that is mechanically sound and has a good arm but again, no dawg. He is pretty much a statue back there with not much mobility. When he does run he Kyle Ortons it. Multiple times I seen him slide a yard short of the first down with guys still 2 yards a way with the game on the line. Im not saying he is a bad QB. He is very very good. I cant call him elite. He has an elite throw but I dont think he has an elite game. Just my opinion. Some would agree. Probably more wont. Thats ok. Edited November 25, 2022 by Scott7975 2 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Subjective. Chargers have avgeraged 22.7 ppg on the season and are 5-5. I'll believe they might be a threat in the playoffs if they actually get there and win a game. Personally I think Herbert is over rated. He makes some nice wow throws but he doesnt seem to have any dawg in him. Gotta have the dawg. The desire to win. I just dont see it. I see a guy that is mechanically sound and has a good arm but again, no dawg. The Chargers have been hit with the injury bug perhaps worse than Buffalo. Herbert was out for games and played hurt, Allen was out forever, Williams always banged up, and Bosa out for 8-10 weeks. I find it hypocritical to give the Bills a pass for injuries but not the Chargers. That gives merit to the great job the Bills team and coaches are doing finding ways to win. However, those injuries the Chargers have suffered would be in line with having Diggs, Davis Von Miller, and Allen out. Point being the Chargers list their number 1 and 2 receivers and their best pass rusher for significant amounts of time. It's hard to win with those injuries. Not sure why or where the lack of dog in Herbert comes from. I see a very good QB that most teams would be happy to start their roster with. Perhaps we are just spoiled by having Allen. I'm here in SD and watch all their games. Herbert is as tough as nails. He isn't afraid to stand in the pocket take a hit and fire the ball. Herbert is developing and a very good QB. I think the Chargers have a sub par coach, never play a home, and have a losing culture. Herbert is anything but the problem in SD. I know you didn't say that. Edited November 25, 2022 by newcam2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBob806 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 3 hours ago, muppy said: There is likely not another single team in the NFL as despised by their original fanbase than the "Los Angeles Chaagaahs" I hope the non playoff appearance carries on. It is SWEET Karma after what they did to the people of Americas Finest city. SMH Pathetic. Vent/ Stan Kroenke, Jerry Jones, & Roger Goodell will make damn sure the Chargers get in, just to justify the move to LA. There, I said it. 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Scott7975 said: Subjective. Chargers have avgeraged 22.7 ppg on the season and are 5-5. I'll believe they might be a threat in the playoffs if they actually get there and win a game. Personally I think Herbert is over rated. He makes some nice wow throws but he doesnt seem to have any dawg in him. Gotta have the dawg. The desire to win. I just dont see it. I see a guy that is mechanically sound and has a good arm but again, no dawg. He is pretty much a statue back there with not much mobility. When he does run he Kyle Ortons it. Multiple times I seen him slide a yard short of the first down with guys still 2 yards a way with the game on the line. Im not saying he is a bad QB. He is very very good. I cant call him elite. He has an elite throw but I dont think he has an elite game. Just my opinion. Some would agree. Probably more wont. Thats ok. Herbert is very reminiscent of his predecessor Phillip Rivers in both look great but seemed to lack that end game killer gene, we've all seen it in Brady. Manning, Mahomes and Allen but like you I feel he just lacks something. Edited November 25, 2022 by The Jokeman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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